"Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Hertz_Donut wrote:
>> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>> GeorgeWa****ngtonAdmirer wrote:
>>>> "JM" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So.. Lets say I break into your house, when you discover this you ask
>>>> me to leave. But I say, "I've made the beds, washed the dishes and
did
>>>> the
>>>> laundry well as swept the floors: I've done all the things you don't
>>>> like to do.
>>>> I'm hard- working and honest, except for when I broke into your
house,
>>>> and deserve to stay". Now according to the protestors , not only must
>>>> you let me stay
>>> Hold the freekn bus, Homer.
>>>
>>> Unless you are of Native American extraction, and there are few
purebred
>>> Redmen left, you are an immigrant or of immigrants.
>>>
>>> What is so wrong with a person from Latin America seeking to live the
>>> American Dream, or at least to aspire to live in the land of Freedom?
>>>
>>> The inscription on the Statue of Liberty reads...
>>>
>>> "Give me your tired, your poor,
>>> Your huddled m***** yearning to breathe free,
>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
>>> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
>>> I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
>>>
>>> Why are you unAmerican, Georgie? Why do you hate America, and destroy
>>> her sacred traditions?
>>>
>>> A tradition of welcoming hardworking immigrants which lasted hundreds
of
>>> years, in fact. It is the essence of the American experiment.
>>>
>>
>> Your point is, sadly, irrelevant.
>>
>
Just read your post. It is not factually accurate. *MOST* immigrants
working in this country are illegal. Your point dealt with those who
immigrate here legally, not about the topic of illegal
immigrants...therefor
irrelevant to the discussion.
Nothing to prove. You proved it by stating it. I have no idea what a
"reichtaerd" is...
>
>> The average immigrant is illegal, does not pay taxes, uses our social
>> programs and our medical system without paying for them, put their kids
>> in our schools without paying taxes..etc.
>>
>
> Your insinuation is a baldfaced lie. Most of the illegal Mexican
workers
> I worked alongside paid taxes out of every paycheck, but were unable to
> obtain tax returns because of the fraudulent SSN.
Most illegal immigrants are paid in cash and pay no taxes. TGhe employers
liek it that way, and the illegals like it that way.
>
> Low wage earners don't pay for hospitalization, social services or
schools
> either if they are native or immigrant, fool.
In that instance, you are correct. The legal workers and taxpayers in
this
country pay for it in higher health insurance costs, higher hospital and
drug costs, and higher taxes. Someone is paying for all the illegals
using
our medical system and it is the taxpayers and legal workers in this
country.
>
> Your argument lacks merit. It's basically a lie.
Now you have something to prove. Prove the statement is a lie.
>
>> If an immigrant wants to come here legally, get a work permit and visa,
>> and ultimately gain citizen****p, I commend and welcome them.
>>
>
> That isn't a realistic option for the numbers of persons were talking
> about. The demand for visas far outstrips supply. Well qualified
> applicants are left wanting.
So they come here illegally, find that it suits them, and abandon the
process of trying to legitimately immigrate.
>
>> Most of the "immigrants" don't want citizen****p. They want to get jobs
>> paid under the table so that they can send the money back home, so that
>> they are not taxed. They want to use our system to benefit them,
without
>> paying anything in return. They are parasites, plain and simple.
>>
>
> That is a huge lie. Most of the Mexican workers I knew yearned for
> citizen****p and equal rights in America. They did not work under the
> table, and produced far more social benefit than they ever cost.
And again you are way off the mark. All current fiugres show that there
are
many many times the number of illegal immigrants than legal ones, and that
they have no intent of legally immigrating. Many are criminals who cannot
legally immigrat because of their criminal background.
>
> You are a parasite, Hoe Gnu. You have never worked an honest day in
your
> life I warrant.
I have worked my entire life....longer than you have been alive, I would
gues... I have made a good life for my family and myself.
>
>> Note that the above does not apply to the immigrants who enter this
>> country legally and follow all the necessary steps.
>>
>
> Your artificial distinction does not impress me.
It is only artificial in your mind. It is, in fact a very clear
distinction: either an immigrant is legal, or they are not. But I guess
you, being a liberal, will reuse to see that.
>
>> I also think we need to end the welfare state. When a healthy person
>> born in this country can go their entire life without ever having to
hold
>> a job...something is wrong.
>>
>
> If a man promised to do not a lick of work, he ought to be given a
stipend
> so as not to be forced to steal. Wages will go up when workers
> voluntarily retire from work, and jobs go begging. Better wages will
draw
> some back to the workforce.
The democrats ling for a welfare atate as a way to control the populace.
I
say if a man is too lazy to work, he deserves not a dime from anyone. When
he steals, he should be given a fair trial, and if convicted, assigned to
a
cahin gang to do the work that needs to be doen...and he will receive
nothing but his cell, his clothing and enough food to survive.
>
> All society benefits from giving subsistence to the needy. Beggary and
> street crime impoverish everyone by destroying the quality of life.
A system like you envision encourages and enables beggars and welfare
sponges. Welfare should be very difficult to get, and even harder to
keep.
All able bodied people should work, even if that job is not the job they
want.
Besides, I work for my money. I don't want my taxes increased to pay for
some fat ass crack smoking welfare punk.
>
>> Do not post back that someone has to take care of their kids...they are
>> expert at squeezing out a new dollar maker just in time to keep the
>> benefits rolling in....no benefits, no kids! Simple equation. Of
>> course, the dems would love the entire country to be one huge welfare
>> state, so they could control us all!
>>
>
> You are a lunatic. Seek psychiatric help.
You are the one who cannot seem to find reality. You live in a dream
world.
I think it is you that needs help.
Honu
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