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Re: Something to ponder (fwd)

by Defendario <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 23, 2007 at 08:38 PM

Hertz_Donut wrote:
> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:544hfuF1ul7nbU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Hertz_Donut wrote:
>>> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>> news:54464eF1ul8vlU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> GeorgeWa****ngtonAdmirer wrote:
>>>>> "JM" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So.. Lets say I break into your house, when you discover this you
ask 
>>>>> me to leave. But I say, "I've made the beds, washed the dishes and
did 
>>>>> the
>>>>> laundry well as swept the floors: I've done all the things you don't

>>>>> like to do.
>>>>> I'm hard- working and honest, except for when I broke into your
house, 
>>>>> and deserve to stay". Now according to the protestors , not only
must 
>>>>> you let me stay
>>>> Hold the freekn bus, Homer.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you are of Native American extraction, and there are few
purebred 
>>>> Redmen left, you are an immigrant or of immigrants.
>>>>
>>>> What is so wrong with a person from Latin America seeking to live the

>>>> American Dream, or at least to aspire to live in the land of Freedom?
>>>>
>>>> The inscription on the Statue of Liberty reads...
>>>>
>>>> "Give me your tired, your poor,
>>>> Your huddled m***** yearning to breathe free,
>>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
>>>> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
>>>> I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
>>>>
>>>> Why are you unAmerican, Georgie?  Why do you hate America, and
destroy 
>>>> her sacred traditions?
>>>>
>>>> A tradition of welcoming hardworking immigrants which lasted hundreds
of 
>>>> years, in fact.  It is the essence of the American experiment.
>>>>
>>> Your point is, sadly, irrelevant.
>>>
> Just read your post.  It is not factually accurate. *MOST* immigrants 
> working in this country are illegal.  Your point dealt with those who 
> immigrate here legally, not about the topic of illegal
immigrants...therefor 
> irrelevant to the discussion.
>

No aSShole.  The people working and living life here in America may be 
technically "illegal" according to some, but I don't thing you have the 
necessary information to develop a warrant without racial profiling, 
which runs afoul Equal Protection, among other things.

> Nothing to prove.  You proved it by stating it.  I have no idea what a 
> "reichtaerd" is...

A Reichtard is an ignorant sup****ter of Bushlerite Fascism, the 4th Reich.

>>> The average immigrant is illegal, does not pay taxes, uses our social 
>>> programs and our medical system without paying for them, put their
kids 
>>> in our schools without paying taxes..etc.
>>>
>> Your insinuation is a baldfaced lie.  Most of the illegal Mexican
workers 
>> I worked alongside paid taxes out of every paycheck, but were unable to

>> obtain tax returns because of the fraudulent SSN.
> 
> Most illegal immigrants are paid in cash and pay no taxes.

That's a lie.

> TGhe employers 
> liek it that way, and the illegals like it that way.

That's crap.  Most of the illegals get regular paychecks with taxes 
taken out.  Only day laborers standing out front of Home Depot get no 
taxes taken out.

>> Low wage earners don't pay for hospitalization, social services or
schools 
>> either if they are native or immigrant, fool.
>

> In that instance, you are correct.  The legal workers and taxpayers in
this 
> country pay for it in higher health insurance costs, higher hospital and

> drug costs, and higher taxes.  Someone is paying for all the illegals
using 
> our medical system and it is the taxpayers and legal workers in this 
> country.

The Health care system is inadequately funded.  Since no one can be 
turned away, the problem lies in the fact that illegals don't qualify 
for Medicaid.  They should.

>> Your argument lacks merit.  It's basically a lie.
> 
> Now you have something to prove.  Prove the statement is a lie.
>

What one?  I say that most illegals work for a paycheck and get taxes 
taken out.  You claim the opposite.  I think that's an absurd claim, 
which flies in the face of what I saw personally in association with 
illegal Mexican workers.

Your burden.

>>> If an immigrant wants to come here legally, get a work permit and
visa, 
>>> and ultimately gain citizen****p, I commend and welcome them.
>>>
>> That isn't a realistic option for the numbers of persons were talking 
>> about.  The demand for visas far outstrips supply.  Well qualified 
>> applicants are left wanting.
> 
> So they come here illegally, find that it suits them, and abandon the 
> process of trying to legitimately immigrate.
>

They are here, working and not hurting anyone.  Why are you dead set on 
starting a race war with the Latin population of America?

>>> Most of the "immigrants" don't want citizen****p.  They want to get
jobs 
>>> paid under the table so that they can send the money back home, so
that 
>>> they are not taxed.  They want to use our system to benefit them,
without 
>>> paying anything in return.  They are parasites, plain and simple.
>>>
>> That is a huge lie.  Most of the Mexican workers I knew yearned for 
>> citizen****p and equal rights in America.  They did not work under the 
>> table, and produced far more social benefit than they ever cost.
> 
> And again you are way off the mark.

Prove it.

> All current fiugres show that there are 
> many many times the number of illegal immigrants than legal ones, and
that 
> they have no intent of legally immigrating.

Right.  They have no intention of going back to Mexico and applying for 
visas like good little Miates.  They will continue doing what they're 
doing in el Norte, gracias

> Many are criminals who cannot 
> legally immigrat because of their criminal background.
>

Those are the distinct minority.

> 
>> You are a parasite, Hoe Gnu.  You have never worked an honest day in
your 
>> life I warrant.
> 
> I have worked my entire life....longer than you have been alive, I would

> gues... I have made a good life for my family and myself.

What kind of work, Hoe Gnu?  Talking on a phone?  Pu****ng paper?

How many days did you spend rolling tar paper on a roof in Phoenix?
Into molten tar, in the blazing aSSed sun.

>>> Note that the above does not apply to the immigrants who enter this 
>>> country legally and follow all the necessary steps.
>>>
>> Your artificial distinction does not impress me.
> 
> It is only artificial in your mind.  It is, in fact a very clear 
> distinction:  either an immigrant is legal, or they are not.  But I
guess 
> you, being a liberal, will reuse to see that.

Not clear to me at all.  Show me a kid raised in East LA and one raised 
in Guadalajara, and I show you two peas in a pod.  Same same

>>> I also think we need to end the welfare state.  When a healthy person 
>>> born in this country can go their entire life without ever having to
hold 
>>> a job...something is wrong.
>>>
>> If a man promised to do not a lick of work, he ought to be given a
stipend 
>> so as not to be forced to steal.  Wages will go up when workers 
>> voluntarily retire from work, and jobs go begging.  Better wages will
draw 
>> some back to the workforce.
> 
> The democrats ling for a welfare atate as a way to control the populace.

No.  It's a way to provide dignity for the working man.  Something you 
wouldn't understand, Reichtard.

> I 
> say if a man is too lazy to work, he deserves not a dime from anyone.
When 
> he steals, he should be given a fair trial, and if convicted, assigned
to a 
> cahin gang to do the work that needs to be doen...and he will receive 
> nothing but his cell, his clothing and enough food to survive.
>

That's proof of how sick and horrible you really are, Hoe Gnu.  You are 
a hateful and malevolent creature, who ought to be beaten severely and 
left for dead.

>> All society benefits from giving subsistence to the needy.  Beggary and

>> street crime impoverish everyone by destroying the quality of life.
> 
> A system like you envision encourages and enables beggars and welfare 
> sponges.  Welfare should be very difficult to get, and even harder to
keep. 

IOW, there is no alternative to theft for survival, or outright wage 
slavery.

> All able bodied people should work, even if that job is not the job they

> want.

How many times did you work jobs for mere survival?  Why do you want to 
sentence American workers to such a fate?

You belong in the Dark Ages, with Serfs.  You miserable creature...

> Besides, I work for my money.  I don't want my taxes increased to pay
for 
> some fat ass crack smoking welfare punk.
>

No one on GA has money to smoke crack, unless they are selling it to 
some **** who works for $$$ -- like you.

IOW, poverty and skinflint GA promote crime.  Spend your $5 billion a 
week (the cost of war) and every homeless person could be put up with 
rent and food assistance.

But you'd rather see them starve, steal and prostitute themselves. 
That's why I hate you for the miserable fascist Reichtard bastard that 
you are.

>>> Do not post back that someone has to take care of their kids...they
are 
>>> expert at squeezing out a new dollar maker just in time to keep the 
>>> benefits rolling in....no benefits, no kids!  Simple equation.  Of 
>>> course, the dems would love the entire country to be one huge welfare 
>>> state, so they could control us all!
>>>
>> You are a lunatic.  Seek psychiatric help.
> 
> You are the one who cannot seem to find reality.  You live in a dream
world. 
> I think it is you that needs help.
>

You need to have your aSS beat down and your home invaded.  You can 
watch your dried up old lady get gang ****ed by Chollos right in front 
of you.  They could even spooge on you for effect, before stealing 
everything movable, and destroying the rest.

After that, you'd have a legitimate excuse for hating Mexicans.

Until then you are simply a bloodthirsty little hater and bigot.

GFY

> Honu
> 
> 
> 
>
 




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Something to ponder (fwd)
GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer &  2007-02-21 10:29:44 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-21 19:26:18 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-21 14:59:53 
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Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-21 22:40:09 
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"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-21 19:58:16 
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Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-23 20:38:33 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-23 17:06:38 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-24 22:45:18 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-24 17:55:21 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-24 23:16:05 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-24 18:18:50 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"David R" <h  2007-02-25 06:33:59 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-24 23:08:36 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"David R" <h  2007-02-26 03:25:08 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-25 21:23:07 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"David R" <h  2007-02-26 09:09:10 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-25 23:19:23 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"David R" <h  2007-02-26 17:38:53 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-25 19:18:14 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"David R" <h  2007-02-26 03:27:56 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-25 22:39:08 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-25 21:23:45 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"David R" <h  2007-02-26 09:09:59 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-25 23:21:05 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
AUK Registrar <cjiii@[  2007-02-25 16:58:42 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Seawolf" <S  2007-02-22 01:16:13 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-23 20:52:00 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-02-23 17:27:32 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Seawolf" <S  2007-02-27 18:56:52 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-27 22:24:17 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Tom" <tomtk  2007-02-27 23:13:34 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-27 23:24:08 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Tom" <tomtk  2007-02-28 08:57:18 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-28 17:25:55 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
AUK Registrar <cjiii@[  2007-03-01 18:33:19 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Seawolf" <S  2007-02-28 23:11:37 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-02-28 23:34:15 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Seawolf" <S  2007-03-01 00:02:33 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Tom" <tomtk  2007-03-01 00:50:17 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-03-03 21:10:06 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Hertz_Donut" &  2007-03-03 16:49:59 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
Defendario <Defendario  2007-03-03 22:27:55 
Re: Something to ponder (fwd)
"Tom" <tomtk  2007-03-03 21:51:59 

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