Seawolf wrote:
> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Hertz_Donut wrote:
>>> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>> GeorgeWa****ngtonAdmirer wrote:
>>>>> "JM" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So.. Lets say I break into your house, when you discover this you
ask
>>>>> me to leave. But I say, "I've made the beds, washed the dishes and
did
>>>>> the
>>>>> laundry well as swept the floors: I've done all the things you don't
>>>>> like to do.
>>>>> I'm hard- working and honest, except for when I broke into your
house,
>>>>> and deserve to stay". Now according to the protestors , not only
must
>>>>> you let me stay
>>>> Hold the freekn bus, Homer.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you are of Native American extraction, and there are few
purebred
>>>> Redmen left, you are an immigrant or of immigrants.
>>>>
>>>> What is so wrong with a person from Latin America seeking to live the
>>>> American Dream, or at least to aspire to live in the land of Freedom?
>
> Nothing, as long as they abide by the law.
>
So you favor amnesty for the hard working, law abiding Mexicans.
8-)
>
>>>> The inscription on the Statue of Liberty reads...
>>>>
>>>> "Give me your tired, your poor,
>>>> Your huddled m***** yearning to breathe free,
>>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
>>>> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
>>>> I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
>
>
> How many of our current "Latin Americans of questionable citeszen****p"
can
> quote that, let alone claim to have seen the Statue of Liberty?
>
That's irrelevant. It's one of the key traditions of America
>>>> Why are you unAmerican, Georgie? Why do you hate America, and
destroy
>>>> her sacred traditions?
>>>>
>>>> A tradition of welcoming hardworking immigrants which lasted hundreds
of
>>>> years, in fact. It is the essence of the American experiment.
>
> True. But purposely eveading the law of America is NOT!
>
Make it feasible for them to obey. They aren't trained monkeys, eager
to jump thru bureaucratic hoops. The mojados just want to work.
>
>>> Your point is, sadly, irrelevant.
>>>
>> Your point to prove, Reichtard.
>
> Nope, yours.
>
What point? Do you have one?
>
>>> The average immigrant is illegal, does not pay taxes, uses our social
>>> programs and our medical system without paying for them, put their
kids
>>> in our schools without paying taxes..etc.
>>>
>> Your insinuation is a baldfaced lie. Most of the illegal Mexican
workers
>> I worked alongside paid taxes out of every paycheck, but were unable to
>> obtain tax returns because of the fraudulent SSN.
>
> You are a fool if you believe what you just said.
I believe it because I know it to be true. Every wet I worked with (and
there were hundreds) worked for a paycheck and had taxes taken out.
> .....let's not even deal
> with the FACT that you are criminal if you knowingly worked with ILLEGAL
> immegrants and said nothing.............
>
Said nothing? Who the fuk was I supposed to tell? Have La Migra haul
all my compadres away, and leave me with no crew to work on?
Are you mad?
>> Low wage earners don't pay for hospitalization, social services or
schools
>> either if they are native or immigrant, fool.
>
> No, they don't. They rely on the fact that tax paying citizens of the
> country they are illegaly in will pay for the care they recieve.....and
> Americans wonder why our insurance rates are so high..........
>
American insurance rates would be a lot lower across the board with a
Canadian style system. Everyone who gets sick or injured in America
ought to have a right to treatment. Period.
>> Your argument lacks merit. It's basically a lie.
>
> No, your rebuttal lacks merit.
>
Rebuttal of what?
>
>>> If an immigrant wants to come here legally, get a work permit and
visa,
>>> and ultimately gain citizen****p, I commend and welcome them.
>>>
>> That isn't a realistic option for the numbers of persons were talking
>> about. The demand for visas far outstrips supply. Well qualified
>> applicants are left wanting.
>
>
> Spoken like a true idiot......
>
You never cease to amaze me Seamouse.
> Why is it okay for Mexico to apprehend or shoot people trying to cross
their
> Southern border illegally, but somehow, we (the USA) are supposed to
allow
> anyone to break OUR laws to enter our country?
>
When does that ever happen? What American was shot by Federales?
>>> Most of the "immigrants" don't want citizen****p. They want to get
jobs
>>> paid under the table so that they can send the money back home, so
that
>>> they are not taxed. They want to use our system to benefit them,
without
>>> paying anything in return. They are parasites, plain and simple.
>>>
>> That is a huge lie.
>
> Which is why the majority of the GNP of Mexico is American
> dollars.....right?
>
Proof of this bizarre assertion?
>
> Most of the Mexican workers I knew yearned for
>> citizen****p and equal rights in America.
>
>
> Then why aren't you condeming the country they came from?
>
Why should I? What difference would it make if I did?
> They did not work under the
>> table, and produced far more social benefit than they ever cost.
>
>
> What would that be? The money that tax payers have spent to make sure
that
> all menus are in English and Spanish?
>
What tax payer money ever printed a menu?
The reason why service institutions cater to the Hispanic population is
because those people have money to spend. Government institutions ought
to be accessible to those who are here but lack the ability to
understand English. They still have human rights, Seamouse, even if
they don't speakee the Anglaiz
>
>> You are a parasite, Hoe Gnu. You have never worked an honest day in
your
>> life I warrant.
>>
>>> Note that the above does not apply to the immigrants who enter this
>>> country legally and follow all the necessary steps.
>>>
>> Your artificial distinction does not impress me.
>
>
> Why would anyone worry about impressing someone like you? You've
already
> admitted to a felony..........
>
What felony? To failing to re****t undocs to the migra?
LOL, what an idiot you are, Seamouse.
:-D
>>> I also think we need to end the welfare state. When a healthy person
>>> born in this country can go their entire life without ever having to
hold
>>> a job...something is wrong.
>>>
>> If a man promised to do not a lick of work, he ought to be given a
stipend
>> so as not to be forced to steal. Wages will go up when workers
>> voluntarily retire from work, and jobs go begging. Better wages will
draw
>> some back to the workforce.
>
> Who?
>
Workers, dumbass. Reread what I wrote until it sinks in.
>
>> All society benefits from giving subsistence to the needy. Beggary and
>> street crime impoverish everyone by destroying the quality of life.
>
>
> Yeah, worked great for the USSR......
>
Actually it worked well there, until the crazed military spending of the
USSR torpedoed the economy. Social services were quite good for the
lower cl***** in fUSSR. Only after glasnost did people begin to suffer.
>>> Do not post back that someone has to take care of their kids...they
are
>>> expert at squeezing out a new dollar maker just in time to keep the
>>> benefits rolling in....no benefits, no kids! Simple equation. Of
>>> course, the dems would love the entire country to be one huge welfare
>>> state, so they could control us all!
>>>
>> You are a lunatic. Seek psychiatric help.
>
> You are ignorant.....educate yourself....relying on the TV doesn't help
you!
>
I seldom watch TV Seamouse. Stay away from Freepers and other Reichwing
sources. Bone up on your New Testament, while you're at it. Develop
some compassion for those who struggle.
>
>>> Hoe Gnu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>


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