"Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Seawolf wrote:
>> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Hertz_Donut wrote:
>>>> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>> news:54464eF1ul8vlU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> GeorgeWa****ngtonAdmirer wrote:
>>>>>> "JM" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So.. Lets say I break into your house, when you discover this you
ask
>>>>>> me to leave. But I say, "I've made the beds, washed the dishes and
>>>>>> did the
>>>>>> laundry well as swept the floors: I've done all the things you
don't
>>>>>> like to do.
>>>>>> I'm hard- working and honest, except for when I broke into your
>>>>>> house, and deserve to stay". Now according to the protestors , not
>>>>>> only must you let me stay
>>>>> Hold the freekn bus, Homer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you are of Native American extraction, and there are few
>>>>> purebred Redmen left, you are an immigrant or of immigrants.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is so wrong with a person from Latin America seeking to live
the
>>>>> American Dream, or at least to aspire to live in the land of
Freedom?
>>
>> Nothing, as long as they abide by the law.
>>
>
> So you favor amnesty for the hard working, law abiding Mexicans.
> 8-)
Yes, as long as they entered the country legally, if they didn't then they
aren't law abiding........
>
>>
>>>>> The inscription on the Statue of Liberty reads...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Give me your tired, your poor,
>>>>> Your huddled m***** yearning to breathe free,
>>>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
>>>>> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
>>>>> I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
>>
>>
>> How many of our current "Latin Americans of questionable citeszen****p"
>> can quote that, let alone claim to have seen the Statue of Liberty?
>>
>
> That's irrelevant. It's one of the key traditions of America
True, it is one of the key traditions of America, what isn't true is your
first sentence.
>
>>>>> Why are you unAmerican, Georgie? Why do you hate America, and
destroy
>>>>> her sacred traditions?
>>>>>
>>>>> A tradition of welcoming hardworking immigrants which lasted
hundreds
>>>>> of years, in fact. It is the essence of the American experiment.
>>
>> True. But purposely eveading the law of America is NOT!
>>
>
> Make it feasible for them to obey. They aren't trained monkeys, eager
to
> jump thru bureaucratic hoops. The mojados just want to work.
So, you're all for them ignoring our laws....not paying SS or taxes? I
have
no problem with immigrants who enter this country legally, I have a real
problem with those who enter illegally, don't pay taxes and insist that
the
US provide everything in espanol as well............
>
>>
>>>> Your point is, sadly, irrelevant.
>>>>
>>> Your point to prove, Reichtard.
>>
>> Nope, yours.
>>
>
> What point? Do you have one?
Yes. To bad you aren't bright enough to get it.
>
>>
>>>> The average immigrant is illegal, does not pay taxes, uses our social
>>>> programs and our medical system without paying for them, put their
kids
>>>> in our schools without paying taxes..etc.
>>>>
>>> Your insinuation is a baldfaced lie. Most of the illegal Mexican
>>> workers I worked alongside paid taxes out of every paycheck, but were
>>> unable to obtain tax returns because of the fraudulent SSN.
>>
>> You are a fool if you believe what you just said.
>
> I believe it because I know it to be true. Every wet I worked with (and
> there were hundreds) worked for a paycheck and had taxes taken out.
I guess I should take your "word" for it.....you've proven to be so
believable and intelligent so far....LOL!
>
>> .....let's not even deal with the FACT that you are criminal if you
>> knowingly worked with ILLEGAL immegrants and said nothing.............
>>
>
> Said nothing? Who the fuk was I supposed to tell? Have La Migra haul
all
> my compadres away, and leave me with no crew to work on?
>
> Are you mad?
Nope, just a law abiding citizen. You, obviously, are not.
>
>>> Low wage earners don't pay for hospitalization, social services or
>>> schools either if they are native or immigrant, fool.
>>
>> No, they don't. They rely on the fact that tax paying citizens of the
>> country they are illegaly in will pay for the care they recieve.....and
>> Americans wonder why our insurance rates are so high..........
>>
>
> American insurance rates would be a lot lower across the board with a
> Canadian style system.
Ahhhhhhhhhh, the socialized health care system argument. That was
destroyed
back in the '90s..............
Everyone who gets sick or injured in America
> ought to have a right to treatment. Period.
Everyone who is a citizen? Or are you saying that if they break our laws
and are here illegally they should have that "right" as well?
>
>>> Your argument lacks merit. It's basically a lie.
>>
>> No, your rebuttal lacks merit.
No, you're "argument"(and I'm being kind here) is flawed and lacks merit.
>>
>
> Rebuttal of what?
>
>>
>>>> If an immigrant wants to come here legally, get a work permit and
visa,
>>>> and ultimately gain citizen****p, I commend and welcome them.
>>>>
>>> That isn't a realistic option for the numbers of persons were talking
>>> about. The demand for visas far outstrips supply. Well qualified
>>> applicants are left wanting.
>>
>>
>> Spoken like a true idiot......
>>
>
> You never cease to amaze me Seamouse.
I'm sure I don't. I bet you say that to anyone who has greater than a 5th
grade education.........
>
>> Why is it okay for Mexico to apprehend or shoot people trying to cross
>> their Southern border illegally, but somehow, we (the USA) are supposed
>> to allow anyone to break OUR laws to enter our country?
>>
>
> When does that ever happen? What American was shot by Federales?
Read the ENTIRE statement before making yourself look like an
idiot..........
>
>>>> Most of the "immigrants" don't want citizen****p. They want to get
jobs
>>>> paid under the table so that they can send the money back home, so
that
>>>> they are not taxed. They want to use our system to benefit them,
>>>> without paying anything in return. They are parasites, plain and
>>>> simple.
>>>>
>>> That is a huge lie.
>>
>> Which is why the majority of the GNP of Mexico is American
>> dollars.....right?
>>
>
> Proof of this bizarre assertion?
Google "Mexico GNP" to many cites to list............
>
>>
>> Most of the Mexican workers I knew yearned for
>>> citizen****p and equal rights in America.
>>
>>
>> Then why aren't you condeming the country they came from?
>>
>
> Why should I? What difference would it make if I did?
You're right. Who'd listen to an idiot like you?
>
>> They did not work under the
>>> table, and produced far more social benefit than they ever cost.
>>
>>
>> What would that be? The money that tax payers have spent to make sure
>> that all menus are in English and Spanish?
>>
>
> What tax payer money ever printed a menu?
Wow! Keep showing your idiocy! Economics 101 wasn't your strength, was
it?
>
> The reason why service institutions cater to the Hispanic population is
> because those people have money to spend. Government institutions ought
> to be accessible to those who are here but lack the ability to
understand
> English. They still have human rights, Seamouse, even if they don't
> speakee the Anglaiz
Hope you speak espanol moron, it's people as ignorant as you who are going
to allow it to be the dominant language.....
>
>>
>>> You are a parasite, Hoe Gnu. You have never worked an honest day in
>>> your life I warrant.
>>>
>>>> Note that the above does not apply to the immigrants who enter this
>>>> country legally and follow all the necessary steps.
>>>>
>>> Your artificial distinction does not impress me.
>>
>>
>> Why would anyone worry about impressing someone like you? You've
already
>> admitted to a felony..........
>>
>
> What felony? To failing to re****t undocs to the migra?
Yes.
>
> LOL, what an idiot you are, Seamouse.
> :-D
LOL what a moron you are. You prove it everytime you post....keep at it
though, I could use the down-time from debating intelligent
people.........
:-)
>
>>>> I also think we need to end the welfare state. When a healthy person
>>>> born in this country can go their entire life without ever having to
>>>> hold a job...something is wrong.
>>>>
>>> If a man promised to do not a lick of work, he ought to be given a
>>> stipend so as not to be forced to steal. Wages will go up when
workers
>>> voluntarily retire from work, and jobs go begging. Better wages will
>>> draw some back to the workforce.
>>
>> Who?
>>
>
> Workers, dumbass. Reread what I wrote until it sinks in.
>
>>
>>> All society benefits from giving subsistence to the needy. Beggary
and
>>> street crime impoverish everyone by destroying the quality of life.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, worked great for the USSR......
>>
>
> Actually it worked well there, until the crazed military spending of the
> USSR torpedoed the economy. Social services were quite good for the
lower
> cl***** in fUSSR. Only after glasnost did people begin to suffer.
>
>>>> Do not post back that someone has to take care of their kids...they
are
>>>> expert at squeezing out a new dollar maker just in time to keep the
>>>> benefits rolling in....no benefits, no kids! Simple equation. Of
>>>> course, the dems would love the entire country to be one huge welfare
>>>> state, so they could control us all!
>>>>
>>> You are a lunatic. Seek psychiatric help.
>>
>> You are ignorant.....educate yourself....relying on the TV doesn't help
>> you!
>>
>
> I seldom watch TV Seamouse. Stay away from Freepers and other Reichwing
> sources. Bone up on your New Testament, while you're at it. Develop
some
> compassion for those who struggle.
>
>>
>>>> Hoe Gnu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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