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> Seawolf wrote:
>> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Seawolf wrote:
>>>> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> Hertz_Donut wrote:
>>>>>> "Defendario" <Defendario@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> GeorgeWa****ngtonAdmirer wrote:
>>>>>>>> "JM" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So.. Lets say I break into your house, when you discover this you
>>>>>>>> ask me to leave. But I say, "I've made the beds, washed the
dishes
>>>>>>>> and did the
>>>>>>>> laundry well as swept the floors: I've done all the things you
>>>>>>>> don't like to do.
>>>>>>>> I'm hard- working and honest, except for when I broke into your
>>>>>>>> house, and deserve to stay". Now according to the protestors ,
not
>>>>>>>> only must you let me stay
>>>>>>> Hold the freekn bus, Homer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless you are of Native American extraction, and there are few
>>>>>>> purebred Redmen left, you are an immigrant or of immigrants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is so wrong with a person from Latin America seeking to live
>>>>>>> the American Dream, or at least to aspire to live in the land of
>>>>>>> Freedom?
>>>> Nothing, as long as they abide by the law.
>>>>
>>> So you favor amnesty for the hard working, law abiding Mexicans.
>>> 8-)
>>
>> Yes, as long as they entered the country legally, if they didn't then
>> they aren't law abiding........
>>
>
> Bull****, Seamouse. The legal-illegal distinction is artificial, and
> meaningless.
I'm curious...........were you born this stupid, or did it require years
of
education?
>
>>>>>>> The inscription on the Statue of Liberty reads...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Give me your tired, your poor,
>>>>>>> Your huddled m***** yearning to breathe free,
>>>>>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
>>>>>>> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
>>>>>>> I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
>>>>
>>>> How many of our current "Latin Americans of questionable
citeszen****p"
>>>> can quote that, let alone claim to have seen the Statue of Liberty?
>>>>
>>> That's irrelevant. It's one of the key traditions of America
>>
>> True, it is one of the key traditions of America, what isn't true is
your
>> first sentence.
>>
>
> Whatever the fuk that's supposed to mean.
It means that you are incapable of understanding even the simplest of
arguments...........thanks for (once again) proving you
ignorance..........
>
>>>>>>> Why are you unAmerican, Georgie? Why do you hate America, and
>>>>>>> destroy her sacred traditions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A tradition of welcoming hardworking immigrants which lasted
>>>>>>> hundreds of years, in fact. It is the essence of the American
>>>>>>> experiment.
>>>> True. But purposely eveading the law of America is NOT!
>>>>
>>> Make it feasible for them to obey. They aren't trained monkeys, eager
>>> to jump thru bureaucratic hoops. The mojados just want to work.
>>
>>
>> So, you're all for them ignoring our laws....not paying SS or taxes?
>
> Wets pay the most taxes. They get withholding taken out, and can't get
> refunds because -- they're on the wrong SSN!
To bad, maybe if the has a legal SSN they wouldn't get
"screwed".............
>
>> I have no problem with immigrants who enter this country legally, I
have
>> a real problem with those who enter illegally, don't pay taxes and
insist
>> that the US provide everything in espanol as well............
>>
>
> Let them be legal, and you'll feel much better.
>
> They're already here and working anyway.
Pathetic response.......
>
>>>>>> Your point is, sadly, irrelevant.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Your point to prove, Reichtard.
>>>> Nope, yours.
>>>>
>>> What point? Do you have one?
>>
>> Yes. To bad you aren't bright enough to get it.
>>
>
> The irony...
Once you learn the meaning of "irony", you will see how dumb you
look......
>
>>
>>>>>> The average immigrant is illegal, does not pay taxes, uses our
social
>>>>>> programs and our medical system without paying for them, put their
>>>>>> kids in our schools without paying taxes..etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Your insinuation is a baldfaced lie. Most of the illegal Mexican
>>>>> workers I worked alongside paid taxes out of every paycheck, but
were
>>>>> unable to obtain tax returns because of the fraudulent SSN.
>>>> You are a fool if you believe what you just said.
>>> I believe it because I know it to be true. Every wet I worked with
(and
>>> there were hundreds) worked for a paycheck and had taxes taken out.
>>
>> I guess I should take your "word" for it.....you've proven to be so
>> believable and intelligent so far....LOL!
>>
>
> Go ahead with your delusions. You are ineducable.
No, I'm educated. I think for myself. You, on the other hand, seem to be
unable to do this.........if you were able to, you'd see how dumb your
responses are.......
>
>>
>>>> .....let's not even deal with the FACT that you are criminal if you
>>>> knowingly worked with ILLEGAL immegrants and said
nothing.............
>>>>
>>> Said nothing? Who the fuk was I supposed to tell? Have La Migra haul
>>> all my compadres away, and leave me with no crew to work on?
>>>
>>> Are you mad?
>>
>> Nope, just a law abiding citizen. You, obviously, are not.
>>
>
> You're an idiot. You better stay in the service -- the real world will
be
> too tough for a goof like you.
Spoken like a true idiot. Tell me, how much education did you need to
"work" next to illegal imegrants?
>
>>
>>>>> Low wage earners don't pay for hospitalization, social services or
>>>>> schools either if they are native or immigrant, fool.
>>>> No, they don't. They rely on the fact that tax paying citizens of
the
>>>> country they are illegaly in will pay for the care they
recieve.....and
>>>> Americans wonder why our insurance rates are so high..........
>>>>
>>> American insurance rates would be a lot lower across the board with a
>>> Canadian style system.
>>
>>
>> Ahhhhhhhhhh, the socialized health care system argument. That was
>> destroyed back in the '90s..............
>>
>
> Every other industrialized nation on Earth, and many non-industrial
ones,
> have universal health coverage. Only the pigheaded US persists in its
> antiquated system.
Do you think before you post? Do try and research these "great health
care
systems" before you claim they are better than the US.....
>
>>
>>> Everyone who gets sick or injured in America
>>> ought to have a right to treatment. Period.
>>
>>
>> Everyone who is a citizen? Or are you saying that if they break our
laws
>> and are here illegally they should have that "right" as well?
>>
>
> Everyone. That means everyone, for idiots like you.
Hate to break it to you.....your view was attempted once..........called
it
the USSR, don't remember it? Doesn't suprise me...............
>
>>
>>>>> Your argument lacks merit. It's basically a lie.
>>>> No, your rebuttal lacks merit.
>>
>> No, you're "argument"(and I'm being kind here) is flawed and lacks
merit.
>>
>
> ???
>
>>
>>> Rebuttal of what?
>>>
>>>>>> If an immigrant wants to come here legally, get a work permit and
>>>>>> visa, and ultimately gain citizen****p, I commend and welcome them.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That isn't a realistic option for the numbers of persons were
talking
>>>>> about. The demand for visas far outstrips supply. Well qualified
>>>>> applicants are left wanting.
>>>>
>>>> Spoken like a true idiot......
>>>>
>>> You never cease to amaze me Seamouse.
>>
>> I'm sure I don't. I bet you say that to anyone who has greater than a
>> 5th grade education.........
>>
>
> Retard. You cannot hold a candle to my intellect.
True, everytime I do the vacuum of your "intellect" snuffs it..........
>
>>>> Why is it okay for Mexico to apprehend or shoot people trying to
cross
>>>> their Southern border illegally, but somehow, we (the USA) are
supposed
>>>> to allow anyone to break OUR laws to enter our country?
>>>>
>>> When does that ever happen? What American was shot by Federales?
>>
>> Read the ENTIRE statement before making yourself look like an
>> idiot..........
>>
>
> You are a lying sack of ****. IOW the Federales haven't shot anyone.
That is a bald faced lie........
>
>>>>>> Most of the "immigrants" don't want citizen****p. They want to get
>>>>>> jobs paid under the table so that they can send the money back
home,
>>>>>> so that they are not taxed. They want to use our system to benefit
>>>>>> them, without paying anything in return. They are parasites, plain
>>>>>> and simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That is a huge lie.
>>>> Which is why the majority of the GNP of Mexico is American
>>>> dollars.....right?
>>>>
>>> Proof of this bizarre assertion?
>>
>> Google "Mexico GNP" to many cites to list............
>>
>
> I don't really understand the concept of one country's GNP being
> another's. That seems gimmicky. WTF?
Doesn't suprise me. You don't understand a concept...........go
figure............
>
>>>> Most of the Mexican workers I knew yearned for
>>>>> citizen****p and equal rights in America.
>>>>
>>>> Then why aren't you condeming the country they came from?
>>>>
>>> Why should I? What difference would it make if I did?
>>
>> You're right. Who'd listen to an idiot like you?
>>
>
> Don't. Killfile me and be done with it.
What? And let you say that I "killfiled" you because you were right? NO!
It's much more fun exposing you as the idiot you are!
>
> I only fiddle with you for cheap entertainment. You have nothing of
> interest to offer.
You must be into bondage if you fiddle with me for entertainment.......you
must like being beaten.......
>
>>
>>>> They did not work under the
>>>>> table, and produced far more social benefit than they ever cost.
>>>>
>>>> What would that be? The money that tax payers have spent to make
sure
>>>> that all menus are in English and Spanish?
>>>>
>>> What tax payer money ever printed a menu?
>>
>> Wow! Keep showing your idiocy! Economics 101 wasn't your strength,
was
>> it?
>>
>
> You can't show a single example. You lose.
Nope. I win. You can rebut without showing an example of me being
incorrect......tell me, do you ever get tired of looking like a fool?
>
>>> The reason why service institutions cater to the Hispanic population
is
>>> because those people have money to spend. Government institutions
ought
>>> to be accessible to those who are here but lack the ability to
>>> understand English. They still have human rights, Seamouse, even if
>>> they don't speakee the Anglaiz
>>
>> Hope you speak espanol moron, it's people as ignorant as you who are
>> going to allow it to be the dominant language.....
>>
>
> Why should I worry? I was born white, and thus have a leg up on all
> Mexicans
Keep thinking that, while you allow illegals to keep working for cheaper
wages and keep demanding that all services are bi-lingual...........get
back
to me when you are out of a job because an illegal is willing to do the
same
job you do for half the price.......
>
>>>>> You are a parasite, Hoe Gnu. You have never worked an honest day in
>>>>> your life I warrant.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that the above does not apply to the immigrants who enter this
>>>>>> country legally and follow all the necessary steps.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Your artificial distinction does not impress me.
>>>>
>>>> Why would anyone worry about impressing someone like you? You've
>>>> already admitted to a felony..........
>>>>
>>> What felony? To failing to re****t undocs to the migra?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>
> You're a retard. No reasonable likelihood of a conviction of that case.
Doesn't change the FACT that you have commited a felony.....
>
>>> LOL, what an idiot you are, Seamouse.
>>> :-D
>>
>> LOL what a moron you are. You prove it everytime you post....keep at
it
>> though, I could use the down-time from debating intelligent
>> people......... :-)
>>
>
> "Intelligent people" surely doesn't include you.
They sure do. Especially if comapred with you..........
>
>>
>>>>>> I also think we need to end the welfare state. When a healthy
person
>>>>>> born in this country can go their entire life without ever having
to
>>>>>> hold a job...something is wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>> If a man promised to do not a lick of work, he ought to be given a
>>>>> stipend so as not to be forced to steal. Wages will go up when
>>>>> workers voluntarily retire from work, and jobs go begging. Better
>>>>> wages will draw some back to the workforce.
>>>> Who?
>>>>
>>> Workers, dumbass. Reread what I wrote until it sinks in.
>>>
>>>>> All society benefits from giving subsistence to the needy. Beggary
>>>>> and street crime impoverish everyone by destroying the quality of
>>>>> life.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, worked great for the USSR......
>>>>
>>> Actually it worked well there, until the crazed military spending of
the
>>> USSR torpedoed the economy. Social services were quite good for the
>>> lower cl***** in fUSSR. Only after glasnost did people begin to
suffer.
>>>
>>>>>> Do not post back that someone has to take care of their kids...they
>>>>>> are expert at squeezing out a new dollar maker just in time to keep
>>>>>> the benefits rolling in....no benefits, no kids! Simple equation.
>>>>>> Of course, the dems would love the entire country to be one huge
>>>>>> welfare state, so they could control us all!
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are a lunatic. Seek psychiatric help.
>>>> You are ignorant.....educate yourself....relying on the TV doesn't
help
>>>> you!
>>>>
>>> I seldom watch TV Seamouse. Stay away from Freepers and other
Reichwing
>>> sources. Bone up on your New Testament, while you're at it. Develop
>>> some compassion for those who struggle.
>>>
>
> I notice you befuddled silence on these last few points.
>
> Your concession of defeat is graciously accepted.
No concession.............just got tired of reading your (worn out)
rhetoric. When you can make a coherent argument I'll respond to these
last
few idiodic paragraphs.............
>
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