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>>> Seawolf wrote:
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>>>>> Seawolf wrote:
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>>>>>>> Hertz_Donut wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> GeorgeWa****ngtonAdmirer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "JM" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So.. Lets say I break into your house, when you discover this
you
>>>>>>>>>> ask me to leave. But I say, "I've made the beds, washed the
>>>>>>>>>> dishes and did the
>>>>>>>>>> laundry well as swept the floors: I've done all the things you
>>>>>>>>>> don't like to do.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm hard- working and honest, except for when I broke into your
>>>>>>>>>> house, and deserve to stay". Now according to the protestors ,
>>>>>>>>>> not only must you let me stay
>>>>>>>>> Hold the freekn bus, Homer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unless you are of Native American extraction, and there are few
>>>>>>>>> purebred Redmen left, you are an immigrant or of immigrants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is so wrong with a person from Latin America seeking to
live
>>>>>>>>> the American Dream, or at least to aspire to live in the land of
>>>>>>>>> Freedom?
>>>>>> Nothing, as long as they abide by the law.
>>>>>>
>>>>> So you favor amnesty for the hard working, law abiding Mexicans.
>>>>> 8-)
>>>> Yes, as long as they entered the country legally, if they didn't then
>>>> they aren't law abiding........
>>>>
>>> Bull****, Seamouse. The legal-illegal distinction is artificial, and
>>> meaningless.
>>
>> I'm curious...........were you born this stupid, or did it require
years
>> of education?
>>
>
> IOW you have no rebuttal. You lose again, SeaMouse
Again? I haven't lost yet......
>
>>
>>>>>>>>> The inscription on the Statue of Liberty reads...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Give me your tired, your poor,
>>>>>>>>> Your huddled m***** yearning to breathe free,
>>>>>>>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
>>>>>>>>> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
>>>>>>>>> I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
>>>>>> How many of our current "Latin Americans of questionable
>>>>>> citeszen****p" can quote that, let alone claim to have seen the
Statue
>>>>>> of Liberty?
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's irrelevant. It's one of the key traditions of America
>>>> True, it is one of the key traditions of America, what isn't true is
>>>> your first sentence.
>>>>
>>> Whatever the fuk that's supposed to mean.
>>
>> It means that you are incapable of understanding even the simplest of
>> arguments...........thanks for (once again) proving you
>> ignorance..........
>>
>
> Again, drizzling nothingness, preserved to re-enforce the point for the
> gentle lurkers who might read this screed.
>
> You have nothing, SeaMouse. Luser
Spoken like a true idiot...try thinking before you post again..
>
>>>>>>>>> Why are you unAmerican, Georgie? Why do you hate America, and
>>>>>>>>> destroy her sacred traditions?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A tradition of welcoming hardworking immigrants which lasted
>>>>>>>>> hundreds of years, in fact. It is the essence of the American
>>>>>>>>> experiment.
>>>>>> True. But purposely eveading the law of America is NOT!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Make it feasible for them to obey. They aren't trained monkeys,
eager
>>>>> to jump thru bureaucratic hoops. The mojados just want to work.
>>>>
>>>> So, you're all for them ignoring our laws....not paying SS or taxes?
>>> Wets pay the most taxes. They get withholding taken out, and can't
get
>>> refunds because -- they're on the wrong SSN!
>>
>> To bad, maybe if the has a legal SSN they wouldn't get
>> "screwed".............
>>
>
> But they are already here and working hard every day. Why do you hate
> Mexicans so much SeaMouse?
>
> Did one steal your old lady?
Nope, but thanks for resorting to a school-yard taunt..at least you are
now
arguing at an intelligence level that compliments your
knowledge...........
>
>>>> I have no problem with immigrants who enter this country legally, I
>>>> have a real problem with those who enter illegally, don't pay taxes
and
>>>> insist that the US provide everything in espanol as well............
>>>>
>>> Let them be legal, and you'll feel much better.
>>>
>>> They're already here and working anyway.
>>
>> Pathetic response.......
>>
>
> Not at all. It's the main part of the argument. You want to punish
> honest hardworking folks for the sin of not having been born American.
No, I want to punish people who knowingly break our laws.....
>
> You are an unAmerican POS, as the inscription at Lady Liberty's feet
> proves.
Nope, you are. To bad you are unable to comprehend what Lasy Liberty is
saying..........
>
>>
>>>>>>>> Your point is, sadly, irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your point to prove, Reichtard.
>>>>>> Nope, yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What point? Do you have one?
>>>> Yes. To bad you aren't bright enough to get it.
>>>>
>>> The irony...
>>
>> Once you learn the meaning of "irony", you will see how dumb you
>> look......
>>
>
> More gibberish from SeaMouse. Or maybe that ought to be SeaMonkey
Agian with the name calling........perhaps you could attempt to make
something aproaching a rational argument?
>
>>
>>>>>>>> The average immigrant is illegal, does not pay taxes, uses our
>>>>>>>> social programs and our medical system without paying for them,
put
>>>>>>>> their kids in our schools without paying taxes..etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your insinuation is a baldfaced lie. Most of the illegal Mexican
>>>>>>> workers I worked alongside paid taxes out of every paycheck, but
>>>>>>> were unable to obtain tax returns because of the fraudulent SSN.
>>>>>> You are a fool if you believe what you just said.
>>>>> I believe it because I know it to be true. Every wet I worked with
>>>>> (and there were hundreds) worked for a paycheck and had taxes taken
>>>>> out.
>>>> I guess I should take your "word" for it.....you've proven to be so
>>>> believable and intelligent so far....LOL!
>>>>
>>> Go ahead with your delusions. You are ineducable.
>>
>> No, I'm educated. I think for myself. You, on the other hand, seem to
>> be unable to do this.........if you were able to, you'd see how dumb
your
>> responses are.......
>>
>
> Waken me when you produce an honestly original thought then.
Impossible. You wouldn't see it. Proof? I've been doing it for the last
two responses to your idiodic posts......you still don't see it.
>
>>>>>> .....let's not even deal with the FACT that you are criminal if you
>>>>>> knowingly worked with ILLEGAL immegrants and said
>>>>>> nothing.............
>>>>>>
>>>>> Said nothing? Who the fuk was I supposed to tell? Have La Migra
haul
>>>>> all my compadres away, and leave me with no crew to work on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you mad?
>>>> Nope, just a law abiding citizen. You, obviously, are not.
>>>>
>>> You're an idiot. You better stay in the service -- the real world
will
>>> be too tough for a goof like you.
>>
>> Spoken like a true idiot. Tell me, how much education did you need to
>> "work" next to illegal imegrants?
>>
>
> Again, you have zip, nada save ad hom schoolyard taunts.
>
> Idiot -- look at what you wrote and brag of your wonderful education.
Don't have to. Anyone with a modi*** of intellignce can see that I've
destroyed and "argument" you have .......which is why you think you still
have an argument............LOL!
>
>>
>>>>>>> Low wage earners don't pay for hospitalization, social services or
>>>>>>> schools either if they are native or immigrant, fool.
>>>>>> No, they don't. They rely on the fact that tax paying citizens of
>>>>>> the country they are illegaly in will pay for the care they
>>>>>> recieve.....and Americans wonder why our insurance rates are so
>>>>>> high..........
>>>>>>
>>>>> American insurance rates would be a lot lower across the board with
a
>>>>> Canadian style system.
>>>>
>>>> Ahhhhhhhhhh, the socialized health care system argument. That was
>>>> destroyed back in the '90s..............
>>>>
>>> Every other industrialized nation on Earth, and many non-industrial
>>> ones, have universal health coverage. Only the pigheaded US persists
in
>>> its antiquated system.
>>
>> Do you think before you post? Do try and research these "great health
>> care systems" before you claim they are better than the US.....
>>
>
> Look up the stats for yourself. Many urban areas of the US are third
> world in terms of im****tant vital statistics. You really don't know
your
> aSS from your elbow SeaMouse.
>
> You're an embarrassment.
Nope, you are......please tell me how long you would have to wait for an
MRI
in Canada........compare that wait to the US.
>
>>>>> Everyone who gets sick or injured in America
>>>>> ought to have a right to treatment. Period.
>>>>
>>>> Everyone who is a citizen? Or are you saying that if they break our
>>>> laws and are here illegally they should have that "right" as well?
>>>>
>>> Everyone. That means everyone, for idiots like you.
>>
>>
>> Hate to break it to you.....your view was attempted
once..........called
>> it the USSR, don't remember it? Doesn't suprise me...............
>>
>
> Canada is like that too, chump. Anyone can go to the hospital for
> treatment for a nominal fee. That's why so many of my friends have dual
> citizen Canuckistani kids. Born in Canada.
How many of your "friends" use Canandian Health care?
>
> <SNIP>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If an immigrant wants to come here legally, get a work permit and
>>>>>>>> visa, and ultimately gain citizen****p, I commend and welcome
them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That isn't a realistic option for the numbers of persons were
>>>>>>> talking about. The demand for visas far outstrips supply. Well
>>>>>>> qualified applicants are left wanting.
>>>>>> Spoken like a true idiot......
>>>>>>
>>>>> You never cease to amaze me Seamouse.
>>>> I'm sure I don't. I bet you say that to anyone who has greater than
a
>>>> 5th grade education.........
>>>>
>>> Retard. You cannot hold a candle to my intellect.
>>
>>
>> True, everytime I do the vacuum of your "intellect" snuffs it..........
>>
>
> *YAWN* You /will/ waken me when you produce an original thought worth
> reading, yes?
I doubt it would do any good.......you are secure in your intelligence.
Too
bad for you that your intelligence is subject to the pounding that is my
knowledge.
>
>>>>>> Why is it okay for Mexico to apprehend or shoot people trying to
>>>>>> cross their Southern border illegally, but somehow, we (the USA)
are
>>>>>> supposed to allow anyone to break OUR laws to enter our country?
>>>>>>
>>>>> When does that ever happen? What American was shot by Federales?
>>>> Read the ENTIRE statement before making yourself look like an
>>>> idiot..........
>>>>
>>> You are a lying sack of ****. IOW the Federales haven't shot anyone.
>>
>> That is a bald faced lie........
>>
>
> Your contention. Your proof. Chop chop.
Prove the Federales haven't shot anyone.............
>
>>
>>>>>>>> Most of the "immigrants" don't want citizen****p. They want to
get
>>>>>>>> jobs paid under the table so that they can send the money back
>>>>>>>> home, so that they are not taxed. They want to use our system to
>>>>>>>> benefit them, without paying anything in return. They are
>>>>>>>> parasites, plain and simple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a huge lie.
>>>>>> Which is why the majority of the GNP of Mexico is American
>>>>>> dollars.....right?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Proof of this bizarre assertion?
>>>> Google "Mexico GNP" to many cites to list............
>>>>
>>> I don't really understand the concept of one country's GNP being
>>> another's. That seems gimmicky. WTF?
>>
>> Doesn't suprise me. You don't understand a concept...........go
>> figure............
>>
>
> Explain it to us all, Maestro.
Don't have to. You're incapable of looking it up for yourself, not my
problem. Prove me wrong...........
>
>>>>>> Most of the Mexican workers I knew yearned for
>>>>>>> citizen****p and equal rights in America.
>>>>>> Then why aren't you condeming the country they came from?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why should I? What difference would it make if I did?
>>>> You're right. Who'd listen to an idiot like you?
>>>>
>>> Don't. Killfile me and be done with it.
>>
>>
>> What? And let you say that I "killfiled" you because you were right?
>> NO! It's much more fun exposing you as the idiot you are!
>>
>
> You can't handle my debate. You are a lame aSS. I ought to killfile
you
> for that very reason. You don't hold up your end.
Go ahead, killfile me and claim victory.........seems to be the modus
operendi of you idiots.........
>
>>
>>> I only fiddle with you for cheap entertainment. You have nothing of
>>> interest to offer.
>>
>> You must be into bondage if you fiddle with me for
>> entertainment.......you must like being beaten.......
>>
>
> With your wet noodle intellect? ROFL
>
> Beat me more, SeaMouse! Ooooh Oooh!
> ;-)
All you want. Maybe someday I'll actually be able to beat some
intelligence
into you..........
Doubt it though, you seem to be a die hard moron...........
>
>>
>>>>>> They did not work under the
>>>>>>> table, and produced far more social benefit than they ever cost.
>>>>>> What would that be? The money that tax payers have spent to make
>>>>>> sure that all menus are in English and Spanish?
>>>>>>
>>>>> What tax payer money ever printed a menu?
>>>> Wow! Keep showing your idiocy! Economics 101 wasn't your strength,
>>>> was it?
>>>>
>>> You can't show a single example. You lose.
>>
>> Nope. I win. You can rebut without showing an example of me being
>> incorrect......tell me, do you ever get tired of looking like a fool?
>>
>
> WTF? You advance a hypothesis (taxes pay for bilingual menus) fail to
> sup****t it, and call it proven because I haven't shown you're wrong?
>
> ROFLMAO! Your edjumacation is really showing now!
> :-D
>
>>
>>>>> The reason why service institutions cater to the Hispanic population
>>>>> is because those people have money to spend. Government
institutions
>>>>> ought to be accessible to those who are here but lack the ability to
>>>>> understand English. They still have human rights, Seamouse, even if
>>>>> they don't speakee the Anglaiz
>>>> Hope you speak espanol moron, it's people as ignorant as you who are
>>>> going to allow it to be the dominant language.....
>>>>
>>> Why should I worry? I was born white, and thus have a leg up on all
>>> Mexicans
>>
>>
>> Keep thinking that, while you allow illegals to keep working for
cheaper
>> wages and keep demanding that all services are bi-lingual...........get
>> back to me when you are out of a job because an illegal is willing to
do
>> the same job you do for half the price.......
>>
>
> That was ever the case. I keep working because I'm easily worth what I
> get paid. I'm not scared of wets a bit.
Yeah, judging by the intelligence of your responses I'd say you have
nothing
to worry about. Not many illegals trying out for the fast food
industry...........
>
>>
>>>>>>> You are a parasite, Hoe Gnu. You have never worked an honest day
in
>>>>>>> your life I warrant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that the above does not apply to the immigrants who enter
this
>>>>>>>> country legally and follow all the necessary steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your artificial distinction does not impress me.
>>>>>> Why would anyone worry about impressing someone like you? You've
>>>>>> already admitted to a felony..........
>>>>>>
>>>>> What felony? To failing to re****t undocs to the migra?
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>> You're a retard. No reasonable likelihood of a conviction of that
case.
>>
>> Doesn't change the FACT that you have commited a felony.....
>>
>
> What a laugh you are. There is no felony. I'm not positively obligated
> to do a damned thing, even re****t a murder. You don't know squat about
> the law either, which doesn't surprise me.
Do you try and look stupid, or is it just a lack of education?
>
>>>>> LOL, what an idiot you are, Seamouse.
>>>>> :-D
>>>> LOL what a moron you are. You prove it everytime you post....keep at
>>>> it though, I could use the down-time from debating intelligent
>>>> people......... :-)
>>>>
>>> "Intelligent people" surely doesn't include you.
>>
>> They sure do. Especially if comapred with you..........
>>
>
> Translation: /drool/
>
> <SNIPPED TO SAVE SEAMOUSE FURTHER EMBARRASSMENT>
>
>>> I notice you befuddled silence on these last few points.
>>>
>>> Your concession of defeat is graciously accepted.
>>
>> No concession.............just got tired of reading your (worn out)
>> rhetoric. When you can make a coherent argument I'll respond to these
>> last few idiodic paragraphs.............
>>
>
> Get some rest, SeaMouse You're beat
>
> ;D
Keep responding. I love the down time I have making you look like a
fool.......
Snip some more next time.
:-) (LOOK, I'M EMOTING LIKE DEFENDARIO......AIN'T I COOL!?!?!?!)
Get back to me when you hit puberty, moron.
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