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>>>>>>>>> GeorgeWa****ngtonAdmirer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "JM" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So.. Lets say I break into your house, when you discover this
you
>>>>>>>>>> ask me to leave. But I say, "I've made the beds, washed the
>>>>>>>>>> dishes and did the
>>>>>>>>>> laundry well as swept the floors: I've done all the things you
>>>>>>>>>> don't like to do.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm hard- working and honest, except for when I broke into your
>>>>>>>>>> house, and deserve to stay". Now according to the protestors ,
>>>>>>>>>> not only must you let me stay
>>>>>>>>> Hold the freekn bus, Homer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unless you are of Native American extraction, and there are few
>>>>>>>>> purebred Redmen left, you are an immigrant or of immigrants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is so wrong with a person from Latin America seeking to
live
>>>>>>>>> the American Dream, or at least to aspire to live in the land of
>>>>>>>>> Freedom?
>>>>>> Nothing, as long as they abide by the law.
>>>>>>
>>>>> So you favor amnesty for the hard working, law abiding Mexicans.
>>>>> 8-)
>>>> Yes, as long as they entered the country legally, if they didn't then
>>>> they aren't law abiding........
>>>>
>>> Bull****, Seamouse. The legal-illegal distinction is artificial, and
>>> meaningless.
>>
>> I'm curious...........were you born this stupid, or did it require
years
>> of education?
>>
>
> IOW you have no rebuttal. You lose again, SeaMouse
>
>>
>>>>>>>>> The inscription on the Statue of Liberty reads...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Give me your tired, your poor,
>>>>>>>>> Your huddled m***** yearning to breathe free,
>>>>>>>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
>>>>>>>>> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
>>>>>>>>> I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
>>>>>> How many of our current "Latin Americans of questionable
>>>>>> citeszen****p" can quote that, let alone claim to have seen the
Statue
>>>>>> of Liberty?
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's irrelevant. It's one of the key traditions of America
>>>> True, it is one of the key traditions of America, what isn't true is
>>>> your first sentence.
>>>>
>>> Whatever the fuk that's supposed to mean.
>>
>> It means that you are incapable of understanding even the simplest of
>> arguments...........thanks for (once again) proving you
>> ignorance..........
>>
>
> Again, drizzling nothingness, preserved to re-enforce the point for the
> gentle lurkers who might read this screed.
>
> You have nothing, SeaMouse. Luser
>
>>>>>>>>> Why are you unAmerican, Georgie? Why do you hate America, and
>>>>>>>>> destroy her sacred traditions?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A tradition of welcoming hardworking immigrants which lasted
>>>>>>>>> hundreds of years, in fact. It is the essence of the American
>>>>>>>>> experiment.
>>>>>> True. But purposely eveading the law of America is NOT!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Make it feasible for them to obey. They aren't trained monkeys,
eager
>>>>> to jump thru bureaucratic hoops. The mojados just want to work.
>>>>
>>>> So, you're all for them ignoring our laws....not paying SS or taxes?
>>> Wets pay the most taxes. They get withholding taken out, and can't
get
>>> refunds because -- they're on the wrong SSN!
>>
>> To bad, maybe if the has a legal SSN they wouldn't get
>> "screwed".............
>>
>
> But they are already here and working hard every day. Why do you hate
> Mexicans so much SeaMouse?
>
> Did one steal your old lady?
>
>>>> I have no problem with immigrants who enter this country legally, I
>>>> have a real problem with those who enter illegally, don't pay taxes
and
>>>> insist that the US provide everything in espanol as well............
>>>>
>>> Let them be legal, and you'll feel much better.
>>>
>>> They're already here and working anyway.
>>
>> Pathetic response.......
>>
>
> Not at all. It's the main part of the argument. You want to punish
> honest hardworking folks for the sin of not having been born American.
>
> You are an unAmerican POS, as the inscription at Lady Liberty's feet
> proves.
>
>>
>>>>>>>> Your point is, sadly, irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your point to prove, Reichtard.
>>>>>> Nope, yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What point? Do you have one?
>>>> Yes. To bad you aren't bright enough to get it.
>>>>
>>> The irony...
>>
>> Once you learn the meaning of "irony", you will see how dumb you
>> look......
>>
>
> More gibberish from SeaMouse. Or maybe that ought to be SeaMonkey
>
>>
>>>>>>>> The average immigrant is illegal, does not pay taxes, uses our
>>>>>>>> social programs and our medical system without paying for them,
put
>>>>>>>> their kids in our schools without paying taxes..etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your insinuation is a baldfaced lie. Most of the illegal Mexican
>>>>>>> workers I worked alongside paid taxes out of every paycheck, but
>>>>>>> were unable to obtain tax returns because of the fraudulent SSN.
>>>>>> You are a fool if you believe what you just said.
>>>>> I believe it because I know it to be true. Every wet I worked with
>>>>> (and there were hundreds) worked for a paycheck and had taxes taken
>>>>> out.
>>>> I guess I should take your "word" for it.....you've proven to be so
>>>> believable and intelligent so far....LOL!
>>>>
>>> Go ahead with your delusions. You are ineducable.
>>
>> No, I'm educated. I think for myself. You, on the other hand, seem to
>> be unable to do this.........if you were able to, you'd see how dumb
your
>> responses are.......
>>
>
> Waken me when you produce an honestly original thought then.
>
>>>>>> .....let's not even deal with the FACT that you are criminal if you
>>>>>> knowingly worked with ILLEGAL immegrants and said
>>>>>> nothing.............
>>>>>>
>>>>> Said nothing? Who the fuk was I supposed to tell? Have La Migra
haul
>>>>> all my compadres away, and leave me with no crew to work on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you mad?
>>>> Nope, just a law abiding citizen. You, obviously, are not.
>>>>
>>> You're an idiot. You better stay in the service -- the real world
will
>>> be too tough for a goof like you.
>>
>> Spoken like a true idiot. Tell me, how much education did you need to
>> "work" next to illegal imegrants?
>>
>
> Again, you have zip, nada save ad hom schoolyard taunts.
>
> Idiot -- look at what you wrote and brag of your wonderful education.
>
>>
>>>>>>> Low wage earners don't pay for hospitalization, social services or
>>>>>>> schools either if they are native or immigrant, fool.
>>>>>> No, they don't. They rely on the fact that tax paying citizens of
>>>>>> the country they are illegaly in will pay for the care they
>>>>>> recieve.....and Americans wonder why our insurance rates are so
>>>>>> high..........
>>>>>>
>>>>> American insurance rates would be a lot lower across the board with
a
>>>>> Canadian style system.
>>>>
>>>> Ahhhhhhhhhh, the socialized health care system argument. That was
>>>> destroyed back in the '90s..............
>>>>
>>> Every other industrialized nation on Earth, and many non-industrial
>>> ones, have universal health coverage. Only the pigheaded US persists
in
>>> its antiquated system.
>>
>> Do you think before you post? Do try and research these "great health
>> care systems" before you claim they are better than the US.....
>>
>
> Look up the stats for yourself. Many urban areas of the US are third
> world in terms of im****tant vital statistics. You really don't know
your
> aSS from your elbow SeaMouse.
>
> You're an embarrassment.
>
>>>>> Everyone who gets sick or injured in America
>>>>> ought to have a right to treatment. Period.
>>>>
>>>> Everyone who is a citizen? Or are you saying that if they break our
>>>> laws and are here illegally they should have that "right" as well?
>>>>
>>> Everyone. That means everyone, for idiots like you.
>>
>>
>> Hate to break it to you.....your view was attempted
once..........called
>> it the USSR, don't remember it? Doesn't suprise me...............
>>
>
> Canada is like that too, chump. Anyone can go to the hospital for
> treatment for a nominal fee. That's why so many of my friends have dual
> citizen Canuckistani kids. Born in Canada.
>
> <SNIP>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If an immigrant wants to come here legally, get a work permit and
>>>>>>>> visa, and ultimately gain citizen****p, I commend and welcome
them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That isn't a realistic option for the numbers of persons were
>>>>>>> talking about. The demand for visas far outstrips supply. Well
>>>>>>> qualified applicants are left wanting.
>>>>>> Spoken like a true idiot......
>>>>>>
>>>>> You never cease to amaze me Seamouse.
>>>> I'm sure I don't. I bet you say that to anyone who has greater than
a
>>>> 5th grade education.........
>>>>
>>> Retard. You cannot hold a candle to my intellect.
>>
>>
>> True, everytime I do the vacuum of your "intellect" snuffs it..........
>>
>
> *YAWN* You /will/ waken me when you produce an original thought worth
> reading, yes?
>
>>>>>> Why is it okay for Mexico to apprehend or shoot people trying to
>>>>>> cross their Southern border illegally, but somehow, we (the USA)
are
>>>>>> supposed to allow anyone to break OUR laws to enter our country?
>>>>>>
>>>>> When does that ever happen? What American was shot by Federales?
>>>> Read the ENTIRE statement before making yourself look like an
>>>> idiot..........
>>>>
>>> You are a lying sack of ****. IOW the Federales haven't shot anyone.
>>
>> That is a bald faced lie........
>>
>
> Your contention. Your proof. Chop chop.
>
>>
>>>>>>>> Most of the "immigrants" don't want citizen****p. They want to
get
>>>>>>>> jobs paid under the table so that they can send the money back
>>>>>>>> home, so that they are not taxed. They want to use our system to
>>>>>>>> benefit them, without paying anything in return. They are
>>>>>>>> parasites, plain and simple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a huge lie.
>>>>>> Which is why the majority of the GNP of Mexico is American
>>>>>> dollars.....right?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Proof of this bizarre assertion?
>>>> Google "Mexico GNP" to many cites to list............
>>>>
>>> I don't really understand the concept of one country's GNP being
>>> another's. That seems gimmicky. WTF?
>>
>> Doesn't suprise me. You don't understand a concept...........go
>> figure............
>>
>
> Explain it to us all, Maestro.
>
>>>>>> Most of the Mexican workers I knew yearned for
>>>>>>> citizen****p and equal rights in America.
>>>>>> Then why aren't you condeming the country they came from?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why should I? What difference would it make if I did?
>>>> You're right. Who'd listen to an idiot like you?
>>>>
>>> Don't. Killfile me and be done with it.
>>
>>
>> What? And let you say that I "killfiled" you because you were right?
>> NO! It's much more fun exposing you as the idiot you are!
>>
>
> You can't handle my debate. You are a lame aSS. I ought to killfile
you
> for that very reason. You don't hold up your end.
>
>>
>>> I only fiddle with you for cheap entertainment. You have nothing of
>>> interest to offer.
>>
>> You must be into bondage if you fiddle with me for
>> entertainment.......you must like being beaten.......
>>
>
> With your wet noodle intellect? ROFL
>
> Beat me more, SeaMouse! Ooooh Oooh!
> ;-)
>
>>
>>>>>> They did not work under the
>>>>>>> table, and produced far more social benefit than they ever cost.
>>>>>> What would that be? The money that tax payers have spent to make
>>>>>> sure that all menus are in English and Spanish?
>>>>>>
>>>>> What tax payer money ever printed a menu?
>>>> Wow! Keep showing your idiocy! Economics 101 wasn't your strength,
>>>> was it?
>>>>
>>> You can't show a single example. You lose.
>>
>> Nope. I win. You can rebut without showing an example of me being
>> incorrect......tell me, do you ever get tired of looking like a fool?
>>
>
> WTF? You advance a hypothesis (taxes pay for bilingual menus) fail to
> sup****t it, and call it proven because I haven't shown you're wrong?
>
> ROFLMAO! Your edjumacation is really showing now!
> :-D
>
>>
>>>>> The reason why service institutions cater to the Hispanic population
>>>>> is because those people have money to spend. Government
institutions
>>>>> ought to be accessible to those who are here but lack the ability to
>>>>> understand English. They still have human rights, Seamouse, even if
>>>>> they don't speakee the Anglaiz
>>>> Hope you speak espanol moron, it's people as ignorant as you who are
>>>> going to allow it to be the dominant language.....
>>>>
>>> Why should I worry? I was born white, and thus have a leg up on all
>>> Mexicans
>>
>>
>> Keep thinking that, while you allow illegals to keep working for
cheaper
>> wages and keep demanding that all services are bi-lingual...........get
>> back to me when you are out of a job because an illegal is willing to
do
>> the same job you do for half the price.......
>>
>
> That was ever the case. I keep working because I'm easily worth what I
> get paid. I'm not scared of wets a bit.
>
>>
>>>>>>> You are a parasite, Hoe Gnu. You have never worked an honest day
in
>>>>>>> your life I warrant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that the above does not apply to the immigrants who enter
this
>>>>>>>> country legally and follow all the necessary steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your artificial distinction does not impress me.
>>>>>> Why would anyone worry about impressing someone like you? You've
>>>>>> already admitted to a felony..........
>>>>>>
>>>>> What felony? To failing to re****t undocs to the migra?
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>> You're a retard. No reasonable likelihood of a conviction of that
case.
>>
>> Doesn't change the FACT that you have commited a felony.....
>>
>
> What a laugh you are. There is no felony. I'm not positively obligated
> to do a damned thing, even re****t a murder. You don't know squat about
> the law either, which doesn't surprise me.
>
>>>>> LOL, what an idiot you are, Seamouse.
>>>>> :-D
>>>> LOL what a moron you are. You prove it everytime you post....keep at
>>>> it though, I could use the down-time from debating intelligent
>>>> people......... :-)
>>>>
>>> "Intelligent people" surely doesn't include you.
>>
>> They sure do. Especially if comapred with you..........
>>
>
> Translation: /drool/
>
> <SNIPPED TO SAVE SEAMOUSE FURTHER EMBARRASSMENT>
>
>>> I notice you befuddled silence on these last few points.
>>>
>>> Your concession of defeat is graciously accepted.
>>
>> No concession.............just got tired of reading your (worn out)
>> rhetoric. When you can make a coherent argument I'll respond to these
>> last few idiodic paragraphs.............
>>
>
> Get some rest, SeaMouse You're beat
>
> ;D
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Well that Islamic raghead is back...he just doesn't understand that non
citizens DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO COME TO THE US.....It is a PRIVILEGE
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