Quoted in full from http://machinenation.forumakers.com/the-new-europe-
forum-f30/its-payback-time-lisbon-pays-for-nice-t532.htm
'Just in after another depressing evening on the canvass trail - This
treaty campaign is going down in flames and its nothing to do with the
Lisbon Treaty.
There is so much anger out there and bit by bit its all falling into
place for me.
The comments in general what Im getting are as follows:
1) we are losing our identity and if we vote for this treaty we will lose
it forever
2) economic uncertainty - will there be enough jobs for us all and
particularly my children
3) Social services and facilities at stresspoint - too many people
looking for too few services
4) we need to slow down and start caring care of our own and giving
priority to our own
This in the leafy streets of Dublin 6
Nothing really to do about the treaty - everybody has got their blurb
from the Referendum Commission and various missilletes from the various
concerned party and to be honest at this stage - less than 10% of people
I have talked to have even read any of the stuff except the total
devotees - however there is big protest vote coming the direction of the
Gov ,if not the mainstream in general - the people - even those who
really have no excuse to give out - are angry and one aspect is coming
out loud and clear even though it is being expressed very subtly because
to mention the issue head on is not very PC at the moment which is why Im
bringing it up here in the hopes of a sane conversation rather than over
at the other place which is simply not conducive to that at the moment.
My thoughts were crystalized today on seeing an internal party poll on
the main issues out there regarding Lisbon
The main issue to emerge by the proverbial country mile is immigration -
the number one issue and it isnt that we haven't had enough immigration.
Everything is coming back to the massive influx into this country since
2004 - If you produced a matrix on all the specific issues raised and
cross referenced them with a main large issue - immigration comes across
loud and clear - People do not want to say it directly to you on the
doorstep- but 10 times more will do so than even last year in the GE
hustings.
With darker economic clouds on the horizon which is starting to result in
less employment , more strain on social services with less expenditure
going that direction - particularly areas where our new citizens are most
visible, education and health - the total farce of the census which
seriously underestimated the number of immigrants into Ireland to a
laughable degree. I can get up in the morning , go to work, go out in the
evening and to bed that night and not make contact with another Irish
person - doesn't bother me in the slightest - been an emigrant for a long
time and came back here as immigration here started to take off and If Im
honest about it - dont have a nationalist bone in my body - I dont bat an
eyelid at it - but given the reception I've been getting on the doorsteps
I have started to step back and try and see the situation thru the eyes
of my fellow citizens and Im suddenly more aware of what a topic of
conversation it actually is and how negative it is getting even among
those who would have been blase about it a few years ago.
There is a big feeling out there that we were jibbed over Nice ,in
particular over the number of immigrants we were told we could expect -
there is no trust in the Government to tell anything close to the truth.
Thus the merits or disadvantges of the Lisbon Treaty can go hang - this
is about payback over Nice and particular over immigration - there is a
palable anger out there and there is high level of insecurity - much
imagained IMO - but when the middleclass start squealing as our
immigrants start to climb the value chain as naturally happens in
employment and the character of many areas change - we in for interesting
times and as the morphine of economic good times and easy credit starts
to fade - there is a massive protest vote coming - I will continue the
good fight until the last possible moment - but the tide is flowing
strongly against this treaty for reasons , with the honourable exceptions
of folks here and a minority elsewhere who have strong ideological and
theorectical reasons, that have everything to do with fear and anger and
a massive desire to give the government a good kicking.
I admit some of the above maybe a bit contraversial and I welcome any
comments on this - but I feel its a reality that is out there and has to
be acknowledged'
--
A monkey
"Monkeys are superior to men in this: when a monkey looks into a mirror,
he sees a monkey."
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