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> On Jul 24, 11:10 am, wbye...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:23:45 -0700 (PDT), n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >On Jul 23, 10:48 pm, "Sid9" <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> "Steven L." <sdlit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>news:p_KdnTNhf79odxrVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > mg wrote:
>> >> >> Before the invasion of Iraq, one of the most obvious questions
>> >> >> experts
>> >> >> undoubtedly asked was will we destroy the balance in the Middle
>> >> >> East and
>> >> >> what can we do to prevent Iraq from becoming an ally of Iran as a
>> >> >> result
>> >> >> of the war? Now it's more than 5 years later and the question is
>> >> >> more
>> >> >> im****tant than ever. What can we do to prevent Iraq from forming
an
>> >> >> alliance with Iran after we leave?
>>
>> >> > Look, we can't have it both ways. We can't have spent the last 5
>> >> > years
>> >> > trying to create a "stable, independent, democratic" Iraq, and
then
>> >> > just
>> >> > ignore the government of Iraq when they make a decision that we
>> >> > don't
>> >> > like. If Iraq wants to have cordial relations with Iran, they're a
>> >> > sovereign country now and that's their choice. We can pressure
them
>> >> > diplomatically, the same way we would pressure any other sovereign
>> >> > nation
>> >> > not to do business with Iran. But that's all.
>>
>> >> > If we wanted to turn Iraq into a U.S. protectorate like the
>> >> > Philippines
>> >> > used to be, this was NOT the way to go about it. If we wanted to
>> >> > turn
>> >> > Iraq into a firm base for the U.S. military the way the Shah of
Iran
>> >> > used
>> >> > to be, this was also NOT the way to go about it. Unlike the Shah
of
>> >> > Iran,
>> >> > we did NOT install a U.S. puppet in Iraq who would run the country
>> >> > with an
>> >> > iron fist on our behalf. We let the Iraqis actually vote and
choose
>> >> > their
>> >> > own representatives, and they chose ones who aren't prepared to
>> >> > become lap
>> >> > dogs of the U.S. And their attitude toward vehemently
anti-American
>> >> > factions like the Sadrists is "Conciliate them," not "Obliterate
>> >> > them."
>>
>> >> > We really did stand up a government in Iraq that is now stable
>> >> > enough to
>> >> > chart its own course in the world. And we'll just have to live
with
>> >> > that.
>>
>> >> > --
>> >> > Steven L.
>> >> > Email: sdlit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
>>
>> >> In your dreams...the Iraqi vote was a farce.
>> >> You people make up history to suit your argument- Hide quoted text -
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>> >The Iraqis hate the Iranians. How do I know? I served there for 6
>> >months. I know you hate America and root for its defeat. But one thing
>> >I know is you are a partisan hack and a coward so you don;t scare me
>> >at all.
>>
>> Bull! The Iranians and Iraqis had problems when Iraq was run by
>> Sunnis. Both countries are now run by ****'a, and Iranians are visiting
>> Iraqi shrines in increasing numbers. The major question is if there is
>> such a thing as an Iraqi. The entire country down to the major cities
>> is now virtually divided into thirds - Sunni, ****'a, and Kurds. If you
>> don't know this, you haven't been within 3,000 miles of the place -
>> which is probably closer to the truth.
>>
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> When the Iranian president landed at Baghdad Air****t for a visit, alot
> of Iraqis protested in the streets. Iraqis are a very secular people.
> They are not down with extreme Islam. So what if the Iranians visit?
> We have people from many countries visiting America. Doesn't mean we
> embrace their countries politics. You are partially right about the
> breakdown of Iraq. But the more the government brings sunnis back into
> the fold in the new Iraq, things will mix up a bit more. BTW I was in
> Iraq from July 07 to March 08. If you'd like I will send you a copy
> of my orders if you promise to shove them up your ass after you read
> them.
bush,jr and the Republicans
that sup****t him did great
harm to American interests
by attacking Iraq and lying
about the reasons for the attack.
Now the trick is for Obama to
get us out of Iraq as carefully
as bush,jr carelessly got us
into Iraq.
You hit the nail on the head.
bush,jr attacked a secular
Muslim country that had nothing
to with 9/11 and thus strengthened
a militant Islamic nation by his
ill calculated aggressive war.
He can never be forgiven for
what he did to America.
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