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Re: Presidential Candidates Get Specific on Trade

by "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" <findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 31, 2008 at 06:29 AM

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message

> David Morgan /(MAMS)/ <findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote...

> >"Governor Swill"wrote

> >> The US$ is trusted enough that many countries use it to back their
own
> >> currency just as nations once used gold or silver.

> >You should change your "is" to a WAS.

> It goes up, it goes down, but the US has still a dispro****tionate
> degree of control over the flow of trade on he planet.  This was a
> primary tool in the Cold War and stopped Soviet Communism well, cold.

It also crashes.... and what brought down the Soviet Union was their
currency failure.

> >> This gives the US enormous trade clout across the planet.
Essentially,
> >> we effectively have enormous control over the planet's money supply
> >> and international trade.
> >>
> >> Commodities world wide are traded in dollars, oil being only the most
> >> famous.  At large scales, dollars are universally accepted anywhere.
> >> Russia takes dollars for it's oil even though it's number one
customer
> >> is Europe.  The US even dictates facets of Cuba's trade policy by
it's
> >> control of dollars.

> > It would appear that you're trying to defend 'as positive', the fact
that
> > the US Dollar -which was worth $1.26 to the Euro in 2000- which is
> > now worth .56 Cents to the Euro, is collapsing at an alarmingly fast
> > rate.

> This is because more are needed.

More WHAT ????    Dollars ?!?!?!?!

> The same thing happened in the seventies.  The system collapsed,

The "system" did NOT "collapse"... I have no idea where you get that
bull****.
I was in my 20's in the seventies, and everyone I knew was simply aghast
and begging for the reason we dumped the gold standard..... but now I have
learned about the New World Order, the World Bank, and the so-called new
plans for a Global Economy, or O W E (apt name, eh?) One World Economy.

> was modified,

Modified ??

> Nixon went off gold
> and dollars became pieces of paper.

Yes.... worthless pieces of paper... were it not for the OIL they owned
and
the fact that back then, America was still a nation of producers and had
yet
to become a nation of whimpering, whining, gullible consumers.  As has
been said to me right here recently, it doesn't matter how you package it
or sell it, a bucket of **** remains a bucket of ****... but Americans are
buying it up.

> Checks and balances.  Enemies *could* wreck the economy by dumping
> dollars, but they also know what will happen if they do.

Right.... the **instantaneous** downfall of the USA... with no shots
fired.

> With no
> unified currency available for use, trade is seriously affected and
> wars get started.

There IS a coming unified currency... and it ISN'T the US Dollar.  The
vast
majority of nations are either considering or have *already* moved toward
using the Euro for internation trade... and many of the OPECs are pu****ng
for this change as well.

America has to borrow 3 Billion US dollars DAILY to maintain it's economy.

> The ideology is irrelevant, what's
> im****tant is using the same economic framework.

Unless it's America becoming the fascist communists and China along
with Russia, the burdgeoning new democracies.... then, it's a real pisser
for the American people.

> Communism submerges the individual
> into the mass of the state and makes sure everybody has about what
> they need.

Welcome to *exactly* what is happening in the USA today.

There's no doubt that the US is still a *key* market economy, but it's an
economy of consumers (takers/buyers) and not producers (mfgrs/sellers).

> Capitalism exalts the individual over the power of the
> State and ensures men the freedom to do as they will.

Welcome to the new Russia of today.

> We can clearly see which system better provides for it's People.

You are in a severe state of denial.

> In this particular application, we have bound nations into a universal
> trade base wherein a given group has a distinct and stated advantage,
> and yet operates that system in agreement with the most powerful
> signatories.

China, Russia, and the Eurpoean Union are now those characters.

> The dollar is the American Empire.

Which is exactly WHY there IS NO more "American Empire".

There IS NO DOLLAR.   There is only valueless paper.

> > I fail to see your points here as being anything other than a very OLD
> > history lesson which is tettering on the verge of no longer being very
> > 'applicable'... just like the US Economy and it's worthless Dollar.

> A global adjustment to the presence of the euro and changing
> conditions with oil.

Hey dip-head.... my WHOLE POINT here has been your little "Global
Adjustment".  An adjustment by the New World Order which requires
that the USA be brought to it's knees economically in order to ensure
that it comes on par with the lesser economies before they can install
their new One World Economy.

The dollar is  O U T.......   and along with it, so is the typical
American
way of living.   The Yuan and the Euro are on the way up.

http://www.ecb.int/ecb/history/emu/html/index.en.html


Get used to the value of these little diddies.... it's going to change
REAL soon.
http://www.chinatoday.com/fin/mon/


And this should be a reference for every NWO and OneWorldEconomy lover...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Currency_Unit















            "If our nation is ever taken over, it will be taken over from
within."

                                              ~ James Madison
 




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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-06-04 06:47:06 
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