On 06 Oct 2008 15:06:28 GMT,
Clairbear <clair@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Sup****t the RRR Cult's
> Loathsome Agendas!" <xanadu222_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Clairbear <clair@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Sup****t the RRR
>>> Cult's Loathsome Agendas!" <xanadu222_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> To BE an RRR Cult Lemming...
>>>>
>>>> -- Be DUMBER than dirt.
>>>> -- Be as HATEFUL as a junkyard dog.
>>>> -- Be BRAINWASHED enough to think that
>>>> people who stand up for personal liberties
>>>> are trying to FORCE their "morality" on
>>>> society. (Remember from Orwell's "1984,"
>>>> how Big Brother taught, "War is Peace" (?)
>>>> Obviously, FREEDOM cannot be "crammed
>>>> down the throats of society." (Which shows
>>>> just HOW ignorant and confused one has
>>>> to be, to BE a lemming of the RRR Cult.)
>>>> -- Be mindlessly GULLIBLE to hate-propaganda.
>>>> -- Be too bone-STUPID to recognize that ***ual
>>>> orientation is merely a TRIVIAL *variation*
>>>> of NORMALCY, like eye color and handedness.
>>>> -- Be EMPTY-headed enough to think human
>>>> reproductive-process entities equate
>>>> with people.
>>>> -- Be OBNOXIOUS enough to disrespect the
>>>> vital principle of the separation of church
>>>> and state. (E.g., (1) Seeking to have
>>>> Christian displays in public parks at Christ-
>>>> mastime, and 10 Commandments monu-
>>>> ments in courthouse foyers... even though
>>>> putting those SAME things on PRIVATE
>>>> property would be NO violation. People
>>>> could have manger scenes in front of
>>>> *thousands* of houses in a town or city,
>>>> and NO one would care. (2) Thinking that
>>>> it would be awful to restore the Pledge
>>>> of Allegiance to its original wording, even
>>>> though we got along just FINE *without*
>>>> "under God" for half a century PRIOR to
>>>> 1954. (3) Seeking the continuation of
>>>> our money's "In God We Trust" motto,
>>>> even though that does NOT speak for
>>>> 50,000,000 Americans.)
>>>> -- Be INTOLERANT enough to disparage other
>>>> people's faiths (or lack thereof) instead
>>>> of sensibly recognizing that everyone is
>>>> *entitled* to believe(or not) as they wish.
>>>> -- Be UNEDUCATED enough to WHINE about
>>>> "unelected" judges every time an appellate
>>>> court stomps on one of your loathsome
>>>> agendas, but hypocritically clam up about
>>>> them when their decisions *favor* you.
>>>> (Educated people know that such judges
>>>> are appointed because that is the law,
>>>> and it keeps them from being politically-
>>>> pressured and motivated.)
>>>> -- Be CLUELESS enough to call judges "activist"
>>>> if they disagree with you, but "construc-
>>>> tionist" if they don't. (Since ALL judges
>>>> very legally create Judicial Law in their
>>>> decisions of record. (RRR Cult lemmings
>>>> think that "activist" judges contravene
>>>> the Constitution in their rulings, while
>>>> "constructionist ones uphold it. But in
>>>> reality, BOTH simply INTERPRET the
>>>> Constitution in "gray" areas. The ones
>>>> scorned as "activist" by the RRR usually
>>>> try their best to interpret as favorably
>>>> as they can toward human rights and
>>>> personal liberties. The ones they call
>>>> "constructionist" try to interpret the
>>>> Constitution with an eye toward limiting
>>>> or eliminating aspects of personal liberty.)
>>>> Judges denigrated as "activist" by the
>>>> RRR thus are usually egalitarians!
>>>> -- Be IDIOTIC enough to think that same-***
>>>> marriage could in ANY way be harmful.
>>>> -- Be CLUELESS enough to think the world is
>>>> only 6,000 years old.
>>>> -- Be LOATHSOME enough to want to see girls
>>>> and women FORCED to gestate UNwanted
>>>> pregnancies to term against their will (which
>>>> would be a very real, 9-month-long form
>>>> of RAPE. (For anyone advocating this who
>>>> thinks he's Christian, add "UN-Christian"
>>>> to "LOATHSOME.)
>>>> -- Be FAR dumber than dirt.
>>> We had no Idea you were a Cult Lemming.
>> LOL!!! Nothing like starting right out in your very FIRST
>> sentence to *prove* yourself a complete ignoramus.
>>> Most all of your little rant describe just aboutevery leftie loon
>>> I have ever met.
>> It's always fun to watch clueless losers like you WHINING about
>> "the Left" while NEVER being able to produce ANY substantive FACTS
>> that could *justify* such whinings.
>>> You defintely come off as hateful. Dumber than dirt, Clueless
>>> Intaolerant, Obnoxcious, braiwash by Moore and other leftist
>>> crackpots.
>> Yep. That's JUST the sort of LYING nonsense the Segregationists
>> used to spew at me in Mississippi in the early '60's, when i was
>> actively opposing them during Civil Rights Movement I. Look who
>> turned out to be wrong, and whose loathsome agendas have been EXTINCT
>> for over 40 years.
>>> As to the debate about abortion If you wanna play you better be
>>> prepared to pay other you better tie it in a knot.
>> Grammar is your short suit, isn't it? In any case, the FACTS that
>> are provided in the SIG of this post make total dog meat of any
>> possible whining against the remedy of abortion you could possibly
>> conjure up.
>>> As to your little rant about morality. This country has been on
>>> a downwards spiral ever since the atheist started trying to abridge
>>> religious freedoms in this nation.
>> Actually, the atheists have hugely contributed to helping to keep
>> America FREE by defending the separation of church and state. KUDOS
>> to them!
>>> Whether you choose to believe in God...
>> I do, and my father was a Protestant minister.
>>> ... or not the moral principles contains therein area guide post
>>> to more just society.
>> Want to try that again in grammatical English, so we can be sure
>> of what you are saying?
>>> The hedonistic do what ever you want.
>> CLUE: As long as no one abuses it in such a manner to do any
>> harm to their neighbors, there is NOTHING wrong with hedonism.
>> (But don't stop whining about it. Good comic theater!)
>>> ...morality of today has lead to most of our problems like Drugs,...
>>
>> ...have been a problem for centuries. Any idea how LONG ago the
>> movie entitled "Reefer madness" came out? Or the problems that
>> existed with opium an heroin, many, MANY decades ago?
>>> ...crime,...
>> Likewise. Ever heard of Al Capone? Bonnie and Clyde? Pretty
>> Boy Floyd? Billy the Kid?
>>> ...the decay of the American family....
>> No such problem.
>>> ...and even the Wall Street meltdown.
>> Has NOTHING to do with *conventional* morality, GREED has
>> *always* been the driving factor in Wall Street.
>>> It is a historical fact that when a society looses...
>> ... as in, "unleashes?"
>>> ... touch with moral and ethical bahaviour it decays and falls.
>>> Just ask the Romans, the Greeks and so many others.
>> If we ever start fighting gladiators to the death, throwing
>> people to lions, and re-institute slavery -- THEN I'll consider that.
>>> You can go ahead a believe as you wish But don't tell others how
>>> to believe while ***** and moan.
>> CLUE: YOU are trying to believe as YOU do while you ***** and
>> moan, hypocrite. Meanwhile, all that *I* do is ****ne a nice bright
>> spotlight on the hypocrisies, hatefulness, irrationality, and
>> bigotries of America's own' version of the TALIBAN -- the RRR Cult.
>>> ... that someone is trying to oppress your one way ticket to hell
>>> lifestyle.
>> Egalitarianism is a "lifestyle?" That'll come as a big surprise
>> to a lot of people for whom it comes naturally as just plain FAIRNESS
>> and common sense. (You are QITE the narrow-minded LOON,
>> aren't you?)
>>> Ahteist like you...
>> IGNORANCE clearly is your LONG suit.
>>> are the ultimate hypocrites.
>> They've made great *contributions* to helping society to remain
>> fair and free. Lotsa luck actually presenting any FACTS that could be
>> disparaging to them!
>>> Trying to tell other what to believe even when you complain
>>> about essentially nothing, ...
>> "NOTHING?!?" CLUE, Loser-- helping to DEFEND people and their
>> rights and personal liberties against the ignorant agendas of hateful
>> LOUSES is quite the **opposite** of "nothing."
>>> Every Christian I know does not shove their beliefs down you
>>> the throat the way you do.
>> I'm a Christian -- and DEFENDING people's RIGHT is the opposite
>> of shoving *anything* down anyone's throat. Once cannot FORCE
>> **freedom** on anyone!
>>
>> Ignorance is TRULY your long suit!
>>
>> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>> ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
>>
>> *(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)
>>
>> Abortion, just like aspirin, is nothing more than a valuable
>> REMEDY for an unwanted medical condition. Folks who are
>> Pro-Choice are not "pro-abortion" any more than there are any
>> such people as those who are "pro-aspirin." People who are
>> Pro-Choice regarding abortion defend the right of all girls and
>> women to have ready, unfettered, and legal ACCESS to that
>> remedy. And they would defend the right of girls and women
>> to have no impairments to ACCESS to the right to full gestation,
>> if *that* were their choice -- if there were any loons running
>> around seeking to deprive them of that option. Thus, Pro-
>> Choicers are sometimes misperceived as favoring one option
>> over the other. They do not. They sup****t both options
>> EQUALLY. The misperception happens because the remedy of
>> abortion is the *only* one of the two options that has a crowd
>> of hateful, screeching, and ignorant bigots opposing it.
>>
>> ANTI-Choice louts irrationally seek to impose immense
>> hard****p upon more than a million girls and women per year,
>> in the USA, by again FORCING them to gestate to term,
>> against their will, as was the case in the Pre-Roe vs. Wade
>> Dark Ages. A very real, 9-month-long form of RAPE. Such
>> a scenario would cause the loss of HUGE ranges of future
>> op****tunities to those girls and women, unless they were
>> able to afford travel to FREE locations where abortion was
>> still safe, legal and unfettered. ANTI-Choicers are sociopaths,
>> and are totally without excuse. (And to date, NO Anti-Choicer
>> or RRR Cultist (usually the same people) has ever yet been
>> able to refute ANY of the points made in this article. Which
>> shows how*monumentally* morally-bankrupt they truly are.)
>>
>> To see a grave and long-term DANGER to America, if McCain
>> wins the upcoming election, please read these; in each case
>> the components of the URLS follow, in case one or both get
>> shortened in posting.) ---
http://apifar.blogspot.com/2007/11/vital-warning-unseen-unheeded-now.html
http://
apifar.blogspot.com/
2007/11/vital-warning-unseen-unheeded-now.html
http://apifar.blogspot.com/2007/12/surreal-alternate-reality-if-democrats.html
http://
apifar.blogspot.com/
2007/12/surreal-alternate-reality-if-democrats.html
>> Abortions obtained by girls and women terminate three of
>> the four of the reproductive-process entities (RPEs): zygotes,
>> embryoes & fetuses, up until the 7th month** of gestation)
>> which have ALL of these characteristics in common with the
>> first stage -- gametes (sperm and ova):
>>
>> -- Human
>> -- Unique
>> -- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
>> -- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness*
>> -- Alive
>>
>> ...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
>> try to defend the later three stages of the reproductive
>> process but NOT the Stage One entities (gametes).
>>
>> ** (AFTER the 7th month of gestation begins, conscious
>> awareness may be possible, but all the other of the above-
>> listed attributes still apply. (But by then, the ONLY abortions
>> being performed are for medical emergencies.) In fact, the
>> procedure that Anti-Choicers LYINGLY call "partial-birth
>> abortion" NEVER was. It is the MID-term procedure whose
>> REAL name is ID&E: intact Dilation and Extraction. Which
>> was almost always done around 4-1/2 MONTHS *before*
>> birth typically occurs. Anti-Choicers are almost universally
>> DEVOID of honest. And usually, too, of much in the way
>> of intelligence.)
>>
>> And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
>> majority of Americans; 83% of them:
>>
>> -- In NO way condemns abortion.
>> -- Doesn't even MENTION abortion.
>> -- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
>> -- Contains NO defenses of RPEs as people.
>> -- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
>> -- That it regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
>> made clear by it's immense emphasis on the im****t-
>> ance it ascribes to BIRTH order, BIRTHrights. and
>> first-BORNS.
>> -- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths.
>> -- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
>> fertilization.
>> -- Thus making gametes (the Stage One RPEs) *equal*
>> in worth to the other three stages.
>> -- More than a QUADRILLION gametes are electively
>> aborted DAILY, worldwide... by *men.* All of
>> which had been *potential* and unique people.
>>
>> Abortion-on-request enables women to:
>>
>> -- Put their lives back on track immediately.
>> -- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels.
>> -- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision.
>> -- Most women have NO regrets afterward.
>> -- Restore their full range of future op****tunities to
>> PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. Immediately!
>> -- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy.
>> -- Especially im****tant for young girls, ~12-16.
>> -- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term.
>> -- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later.
>> -- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out,
>> and those losing the chance to pursue many of the
>> future op****tunities that they formerly had had.
>> -- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation.
>> -- Avoid bringing a child into a less-loving home.
>> -- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment.
>> -- Wait until timing is better before having children.
>> -- Who then are MORE likely to be loved.
>> -- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home.
>> -- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods.
>> -- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals.
>> -- And thus are MORE likely to become successful.
>>
>> Legal abortion-on-request:
>>
>> -- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions.
>> -- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
>> -- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973.
>> -- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them.
>> -- Between 1973 and 2008, 45 million abortions have been done.
>>
>> Other related facts include:
>>
>> -- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
>> when the timing is better .
>> -- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
>> had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
>> ova would not have matched up.
>> -- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
>> significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
>> of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
>> early 1990s.
>> -- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
>> continues into the early 20s.
>> -- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
>> LESS prone to criminal behavior.
>> -- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
>> workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
>> every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
>> the age where they could be getting quite successful.
>> -- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
>> has declined dramatically, and by 2000 had reached 40-year
>> lows in many categories.
>> -- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date,
>> in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic
>> period of time for any nation in the entire history of the
>> world, despite tem****ary fluctuations.
>>
>> Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
>> probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
>> all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
>> is QUITE strong, despite the tem****ary anomaly caused by the attack
>> on Sept. 11, 2001, and the current gas-prices crunch. And a strong
>> U.S. economy benefits the entire world.
>>
>> -- Originally posted to alt.abortion
>> and talk.abortion on Aug. 13, 2000
>> and updated since.
>>
>> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
> You can't have bothways for one price You attack the church and
> religion the claim to be a christian ...
Wrong. My very well-deserved attack it directed squarely at
one of the most HATEFUL and UN-Christian CULTS the world has
ever known. The False-Teacher leaders of which are wolves in
sheep's clothing that LYINGLY "claim" that they and their lemmings
are Chrtians, in order to usurp the mantle of respectability that is
afforded them by Christianity -- for all in society who are GULLIBLE
enough to bnlieve them.
> You attack other and complain that they post comment about
> your voluminous rant.
First of all, it's not a "voluminous rant." It is a FACT SHEET.
And in the case of the above postsm it happens to be comprised
of two different fact sheets.
Secondly, I have yet to EVER see any hateful bigot of the RRR
Cult refute or disprove ANY of the facts presented therein. All
they can do is wail and whine about them. And they and their
loathsome hate-agendas are INDICTED by thpse facts.
> Aside from all that you are just plain rude
I usualy wasn't very kind to the Segregationists, 45 years ago,
either. Because just like today's RRR Cultists, they were bigots
who deserved NO respect.
-- (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)
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