On May 8, 9:58=A0pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 8, 11:58=A0am, Fenwick Arms <kitc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > eldorado wrote:
> > > =A0Riki Tiki Tavi <ti...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> repeating republican
talking
> > > points stated:
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> > >> I'm talking about why Canucks stream south to get surgery HERE!
>
> > > The question should also be asked why so many Americans stream north
f=
or
> > > healthcare?
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> > They don't, you s***bag liar:
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> >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300939,00.html
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> > Mothers in British Columbia are having a baby boom, but it's the
United
> > States that has to deliver, and that has some proud Canadians blasting
> > their highly touted government healthcare system.
>
> > "I'm a born-bred Canadian, as well as my daughter and son, and I'm
> > ashamed," Jill Irvine told FOX News. Irvine's daughter, Carri Ash, is
> > one of at least 40 mothers or their babies who've been airlifted from
> > British Columbia to the U.S. this year because Canadian hospitals
didn't=
> > have room for the preemies in their neonatal units.
>
> > "It's a big number and bigger than the previous capacity of the system
> > to deal with it," said Adrian Dix, a British Columbia legislator, told
> > FOXNews.com. "So when that happens, you can't have a waiting list for
a
> > mother having the baby. She just has the baby."
>
> > The mothers have been flown to hospitals in Seattle, Everett, Wash.,
and=
> > Spokane, Wash., to receive treatment, as well as hospitals in the
> > neighboring province of Alberta, Dix said. Three mothers were
airlifted
> > in the first weekend of October alone, including Carri Ash.
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> > "I just want to go home and see my kids," she said from her Seattle
> > hospital bed. "I think it's stupid I have to be here."
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> > Canada's socialized health care system, hailed as a model by Michael
> > Moore in his do***entary, "Sicko," is hurting, government officials
> > admit, citing not enough money for more equipment and staff to handle
> > high risk births.
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> > Sarah Plank, a spokeswoman for the British Columbia Ministry of
Health,
> > said a spike in high risk and premature births coupled with the lack
of
> > trained nurses prompted the surge in mothers heading across the border
> > for better care.
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> > "The number of transfers in previous years has been quite low," Plank
> > told FOXNews.com. "Before this recent spike we went for more than a
year=
> > with no transfers to the U.S., so this is something that is happening
in=
> > other provinces as well."
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> > Critics say these border crossings highlight the dangers of a
> > government-run health care system.
>
> > "The Canadian healthcare system has used the United States as a safety
> > net for years," said Michael Turner of the Cato Institute. "In fact,
> > overall about one out of every seven Canadian physicians sends someone
> > to the United States every year for treatment."
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>
>http://www.healthcarebs.com/2007/09/03/canadians-running-to-us-for-he...
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> > Canadians Running to U.S. for Health Care
> > Canada, we are constantly being told by single-payer advocates, is a
> > model social democracy with a medical delivery system that we should
> > envy. Oddly, the people who make such claims never want to answer a
> > question that Bill Steigerwald reiterates in a recent column:
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> > If Canada=92s national health care system is so dang wonderful, why
are =
so
> > many Canadians coming to America to pay for their own medical care?
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> > And it=92s not only pregnant women, like the one who recently had to
dri=
ve
> > to Montana to have her baby, who cross into the U.S. on a daily basis
> > seeking health care. Thus, Steigerwald inquires further:
>
> > Why is the hip replacement center of Canada in Ohio=96at the Cleveland
> > Clinic, where 10% of its international patients are Canadians =85 Why
is=
> > Brain and Spine Center in Buffalo serving about 10 border-crossing
> > Canadians a week?
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> > By way of answering his own questions, Steigerwald provides the
> > following datum:
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> > Number of Canadians on waiting lists for referrals to specialists or
for=
> > medical services=96875,000.
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> > It would appear that Canadians with sufficient financial means are
> > seeking medical treatment in a country where such waiting lists exist
> > only in the the fond dreams of single-payer advocates.
>
> > And what about the Canadians who don=92t have the money to come here
for=
> > care? I guess they just pray that their illnesses don=92t kill them
befo=
re
> > the vaunted Canadian system can fit them in.
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> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> You still failed to address the people from the US =A0who drive or fly
> to Canada for health care. =A0I knew a guy who got cancer treatment up
> there. =A0He is a retired Army man, 20 years, and the damn veterans
> hospital wasn't helping him. =A0Finally after getting treated in Canada
> he is healthy!
My Canadian aunt suc***bed to cancer in Feb, 2005. I think the
Canadian system did fine by her because it was a life and death
situation. However, my Canadian co-worker missed work every other week
because her mother had a chronic lung infection and couldn't get a
doctor's appointment. They had to wait until it became a crisis and
then call the ambulance.
If you're dying you get help. If not, you wait and wait and wait.
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