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Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!

by "Dennis" <no.surrender@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 21, 2008 at 08:07 PM

"SgtMinor" <Sarge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:OrWdndrobYN0cTDVnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dennis wrote:
>>
>> "SgtMinor" <Sarge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:HrqdndheG6EoOTDVnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Dennis wrote:
>>>> FROM TOWNHALL.COM
>>>>
>>>> HEAD: Secrets Are No Fun for Unions
>>>>
>>>> Who are you voting for this fall? The answer to that question is none

>>>> of my business. In fact, it is a fundamental American right to have 
>>>> your vote be as private as you wish. Unfortunately, Democrats and
their 
>>>> financiers, Big Labor, want to abolish a worker's fundamental,
American 
>>>> right to a secret ballot.
>>>>
>>>> Why are they doing this? Maybe because Democrats have openly admitted

>>>> they owe their 2006 electoral success to Big Labor and have promised 
>>>> the elimination of the secret ballot as a return on investment. That
is 
>>>> why during this Congressional session every Democrat in the House and

>>>> Senate voted to abolish the secret ballot. Thankfully, Republicans in

>>>> the Senate were able to stop this disastrous bill.
>>>>
>>>> This is a moment when hyperbole is unnecessary. This unprecedented 
>>>> power grab by Big Labor and the willingness of Democrats to ignore
such 
>>>> a fundamental American right threatens the very nature of our system
of 
>>>> government.
>>>>
>>>> Unions already spend hundreds of millions of dollars to influence 
>>>> elections. Imagine what they could do when entire industries are 
>>>> unwillingly coerced into joining a union and forced to pay dues -
dues 
>>>> earmarked for the next election cycle.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, alleged coercion for political gain is already occurring. 
>>>> Recently, The Wall Street Journal re****ted that the National Right to

>>>> Work Legal Defense Foundation asked the Department of Justice to 
>>>> investigate the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). The
basis 
>>>> for the request centers on this fact:
>>>>
>>>> "The union adopted a new amendment to its constitution at last
month's 
>>>> SEIU convention, requiring that every local contribute an amount
equal 
>>>> to $6 per member per year to the union's national political action 
>>>> committee. This is in addition to regular union dues. Unions that
fail 
>>>> to meet the requirement must contribute an amount in 'local union 
>>>> funds' equal to the 'deficiency' plus a 50% penalty." (The Wall
Street 
>>>> Journal, 7/28/08)
>>>>
>>>> Can you name any other company or organization that could compel its 
>>>> member****p to fund political organizations that rank and file 
>>>> member****p may or may not agree with? As I said earlier, hyperbole is

>>>> not needed on this issue. With November approaching, a potential
Barack 
>>>> Obama administration promising to "play some offense for organized 
>>>> labor" and Democrats' determination to eliminate the secret ballot,
the 
>>>> need for a robust Republican presence in the Senate has never been 
>>>> greater.
>>>>
>>>> So im****tant is eliminating the secret ballot to Big Labor that a few

>>>> weeks ago Democrat Senate candidates, Reps. Tom Allen (ME), Tom Udall

>>>> (NM), and Mark Udall (CO), along with Kay Hagan (NC), Bruce Lunsford 
>>>> (KY), Jeanne Shaheen (NH), and Jeff Merkley (OR) all scurried to 
>>>> Chicago for a meeting when Union bosses beckoned. The three current 
>>>> Congressmen already voted to eliminate the secret ballot and likely, 
>>>> along with the other Democrat candidates in Chicago, pledged to 
>>>> eliminate secret ballot elections in the future as well.
>>>>
>>>> Are such promises to Big Labor leaders representative of the will of 
>>>> the people? Absolutely not! Amazingly, Democrats don't seem to care 
>>>> that their agenda flies in the face of public opinion. More than 85%
of 
>>>> Americans oppose eliminating the secret ballot and even the media, 
>>>> across all political spectrums, has editorialized against such 
>>>> legislation.
>>>>
>>>> "Abuses of workers' true wishes not only are potential, they are 
>>>> guaranteed. There is no 'free choice' in this travesty, clearly a 
>>>> payoff to union leaders who contributed so handsomely to the
Democrats' 
>>>> November election victory." (The San Francisco Examiner, 02/16/07)
>>>>
>>>> "Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has decided to hold a vote this 
>>>> Wednesday on perhaps the most unpopular element of the Democratic 
>>>> agenda. Under the so-called card-check bill, a company would no
longer 
>>>> have the right to demand a secret-ballot election to certify a union,

>>>> thus stripping 140 million American workers of the right to decide in

>>>> private whether to organize." (The Wall Street Journal, 6/18/07)
>>>>
>>>> Democrats continue to oppose the will of the people, instead working
to 
>>>> reward Big Labor. In fact, this issue is so far out of the mainstream

>>>> that even ultra-liberal former Democrat Senator and Vice Presidential

>>>> candidate George McGovern has publicly opposed this legislation.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, elimination of the secret ballot will be the second 
>>>> payback for Big Labor, since Democrats already cut funding to the 
>>>> federal agency tasked with investigating union corruption. Without 
>>>> Republicans in the Senate to stop them, what fundamental right will 
>>>> Democrats eliminate next at the behest of their financial sup****ters?
>>>>
>>>> This fall when you go to the polls, the choice is clear (and
private); 
>>>> the choice is Republican.
>>>> **********
>>>> Unions...now merely power-mad and corrupt.
>>>>
>>>> Dionysus
>>>>
>>>
>>> Over the past 10 years, cor****ations have spent over $20 billion in 
>>> lobbying.  During that same time "Big Labor" (whatever the hell that 
>>> means) spent a little over $300 million. 
>>> http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=c
>>>
>>> Only a right-wing nut case, who will not be happy until we have a
total 
>>> cor****ate, or fascist, state will be concerned about the pennies spent

>>> by organized labor defending the well-being of the working man.  And 
>>> don't forget that cor****ate criminals do the ballot counting in total 
>>> secret, resulting in "surprises" in the 2008 New Hamp****re primary and

>>> outright thefts in Ohio and elsewhere in the general election in 2004.
>>>
>>> Both parties are far removed from pursuing the interests of the
average 
>>> person.  To see what issues concern Americans, check out this recent 
>>> survey from the Drum Major Institute: 
>>> http://www.drummajorinstitute.org/library/re****t.php?ID=73
>> **********
>> I realize you are obviously brain damaged, so I will ask just one 
>> question so as to not task you overly much: What does union thugs
trying 
>> to deny workers the right to a secret ballot have to do with lobbying 
>> dollars?
>>
>> Check with your counselors and re-hab occupational therapists, then get

>> back to us. Don't worry, we understand your condition; we wait.
>>
>> Dionysus
>
> Clearly, the focus of the article was not on undue influence over voting
- 
> it was a rant against unions.  If the issue was that of pressure to vote
a 
> particular way, the author would have gone after the churches and 
> cor****ations (like WalMart) as well.  And, unlike Unions, WalMart has
the 
> power to fire people.  Going after cor****ations would be a much fairer 
> target.
>
> And, except for president, voting one way or the other doesn't make that

> much of a difference.  It's lobbying money that pays for legislation, no

> matter who gets in.  Cor****ate money has resigned itself to a Democratic

> victory this Fall and is now being shoveled their way.  Not many
Democrats 
> have records showing resistance to cor****ate influence.
>
> And what did you think of the Drum Major Institute Survey?  Does the 
> majority of your middle-class peers agree with you?
**********
Any rump group that uses Bill "Blow Job" Clinton as its paradigm and has a

board of directors whose members would neatly fill out of carnival freak 
show would easily twist any data to substantiate its far left looniness.

Remember, through it all, Br-a-a-a-a-a-ck, the Magic Mulatto just ain't a 
right fit to be President; the boy just ain't got the fundamentals. At his

core, he's just another grasping Chi-town pol. Just ask Tony Rezko.

Dionysus
 




 20 Posts in Topic:
Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-21 12:03:14 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
SgtMinor <Sarge@[EMAIL  2008-08-21 13:24:01 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-21 13:43:12 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
SgtMinor <Sarge@[EMAIL  2008-08-21 18:32:06 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-21 20:07:55 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
lorad <lorad474@[EMAIL  2008-08-21 11:48:18 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-21 16:07:35 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Titix" <nos  2008-08-21 14:49:29 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-21 18:29:29 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-21 18:28:13 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
Tartarus <tartarus@[EM  2008-08-21 21:12:26 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-22 05:43:58 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
Tartarus <tartarus@[EM  2008-08-22 17:39:17 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-22 21:27:58 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
Tartarus <tartarus@[EM  2008-08-23 16:54:36 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-24 06:49:48 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
Tartarus <tartarus@[EM  2008-08-25 10:10:59 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"Dennis" <no  2008-08-25 13:54:13 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
cake_and_eat_it_too@[EMAI  2008-08-25 10:29:36 
Re: Unions: Vote only as we say!!
"John Galt" <  2008-08-25 13:22:14 

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