Bible Bob wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:24:24 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> To little, to late.........
>>
>>
>> I've wanted to publish this piece for a very long time, and I
haven't
>> done it
>> because of the potential of reprisals against my family, but more and
more
>> I am seeing the same things happening to others that I'll mention here,
and
>> it isn't worth the price these people are paying for my silence. I have
>> several
>> friends that are senior citizens, republican, democrat and independent
that
>> have
>> made the mistake of voting in the present administration and many of
the
>> congressmen now serving. And for the last 50 years they have been
wi****ng
>> they could take it all back. I have friends that cannot afford to pay
for
>> public
>> trans****tation or food for themselves because they have to pay for
medicine
>> and health care. One of my friends is an ex truck driver as I am, and
he
>> cannot
>> drive any longer due to a heart condition known as atrial fibrillation,
or
>> some know
>> as sudden cardiac death. He is has applied to social security for
>> disability 3
>> times and been denied after providing evidence of the condition. His
doctor,
>> a mainstream republican sup****ter, wouldn't willingly turn over his
medical
>> records
>> that detail the diagnoses, and a court order was required to get the
>> records. This
>> guy has been trying to find funding to go back to school to learn a new
>> occupation
>> so that the remainder of his life will be productive, but he is
encountering
>> roadblocks
>> at every turn. His savings have been eaten by healthcare bills because
he no
>> longer
>> has the benefits of health insurance, his wife is working trying very
hard
>> to keep
>> them afloat. And these two people are counting themselves fortunate !
>> Everyday
>> there are people that can't get healthcare for lack of ability to pay,
can't
>> by food
>> or medication or both, and no offer or hope of relief comes within
site. The
>> same
>> old story, the wealthy get wealthier and the poor go without. It seems
now
>> that the
>> people of America are more devoted than ever to serving their own
desires
>> than
>> they have previously been. One of my friends actually tried to commit
>> suicide because
>> the expense of his medication and healthcare was draining their
finances and
>> he
>> was living in fear of what would happen to his wife if he lived for any
>> length of time.
>>
>> From my vantage point I see two things happening; the price of
medicine
>> and
>> healthcare is ever increasing, and every day a few people can no longer
get
>> health
>> care for inability to pay for it, or the inability to pay for the
medicine.
>> More and more
>> disabled people are denied employment IF their applications are even
looked
>> at, and
>> many of these are the same kinds of people that created these problems
to
>> begin with,
>> but many more are NOT ! Why should the needy remain needy for the
selfish ?
>> They should
>> NOT !
>>
>> For my two cents worth, if we are to survive as a people..we must end
>> this self-centered
>> urge to profit at anyone's expense. Confronting the people that promote
this
>> kind of living
>> has never been successful, they are strong and independent, and they
have an
>> excuse
>> and a reason for everything they do. Imagine if you will, a homeless
woman
>> lying on a
>> doorstep with no money to by food or shelter. She has uncontrolled
high
>> blood pressure
>> and she's going into type 2 diabetes. Her last meal came from a garbage
can
>> over a week
>> ago, and the only water she has to drink is from the cooler at the
public
>> library and the
>> police station. Now picture a guy walking past her slowly, looking at
her,
>> then moving on
>> to the next doorway, where he stops and unlocks the door. A few minutes
>> later the police
>> arrive and arrest her for vagrancy, and take her to the station. She is
now
>> at the station,
>> where they book her for vagrancy and finger print her, and then put her
in
>> the public tank.
>>
>> One hour later, the jailer notices that her right foot is swollen and
>> bleeding badly on the
>> sole of her foot, so the jailer p***** that info to the watch
commander.
>> Another hour p*****
>> and the jailer returns to the tank and tells her that she is released
on her
>> own recognance,
>> she asks why, and she is told by the commander of the watch that the
city
>> doesn't want to incur
>> a medical expense to treat an injury to her foot. He also tells here
that
>> she has to appear in
>> municipal court 2 weeks from this day to face the charge of vagrancy.
This
>> woman, on top
>> of all the evil that has been dumped upon her, now has a minor criminal
>> record because she
>> sought a tem****ary place of refuge on some business mans doorstep.
>>
>> I know this to be true, because the woman is now living with Mary and
I.
>> Mary and I went to court
>> with her and paid her fine for vagrancy. The court would have imposed a
>> sentence of 5 days in jail
>> except they would have to feed, house and treat her injury, and that is
all
>> that stopped the judge
>>from imposing such a sentence. Their is an organization here named
Angelfood
>> Ministries that is
>> trying to help senior citizens and the homeless, and they do the best
they
>> can. I've talked with
>> two representatives from the organization, and they tell me it is very
>> difficult to get funding
>>from the government for the project. It seems that a big part of the
problem
>> is Bush's faith based
>> initiative is parting out funds to large denominations such as the
>> Methodists, Catholics, ect..,
>> and they are using the funds to build churches and paying salaries
instead
>> of taking care of
>> the helpless and homeless in their congregations. As a matter of course
I
>> checked on this
>> and found out that at least 3 ministers have been indicted for misuse
of
>> federal funds; a Methodist,
>> a Baptist, and a minister of an apostolic tabernacle.
>>
>> There is a moral to these stories, but it will be lost on most
reading
>> this. Suffice it to say that when a
>> person is willing to let another human being suffer without a second
>> thought, as is happening now,
>> it's time to force a change.
>>
>>
>> Rod
>>
> Dear Rod,
>
> I think you know through our posts, emails, and telephone
> conversations that I consider you a friend
I am grateful for that.
> and that I respect and
> believe in much of what you seek to do. Consider what follows to be
> from my heart to yours.
>
> Over the years I have worked with many "poor" and still do. Many of
> them have been welfare or social security recipients. Some with real
> and genuine disabilities and others with less limiting disabilities
> such as alcohol, drug, homo***ual, transgendered and other mental
> health problems. As you know one of my brothers owns a trucking
> company, another is a truck driver, and my brother in law (who was my
> best friend before he married my sister) and his father were truckers.
> I even drove a truck for a few months back in the early sixties with
> my now brother in law. I am partially disabled myself and so is my
> wife. I "feel" your pain.
>
> A friend of mine is confined to a nursing home, almost blind, has
> diabetes, can't walk after two hip replacements, and has multiple
> sclerosis and has been trying for six years to get assistance from the
> Government. See has lawyers, has written congressman, has went to
> court etc, and still nothing.
>
> On the other side of the fence, I have worked with and still do worth
> with transgendered diagnosed as bipolar and homo***uals diagnosed as
> schizophrenic and alcoholics and drug addicts and prositutes who got
> disability in short order; usually under a year. These people can get
> around and can work and are not in any pain and they get checks every
> month and people like me who are Representative Payees manage their
> money for them so that they won't use it unwisely.
>
> The system is set up to make people money; not to care for the sick or
> dsabled. The lady I spoke of who has been waiting for six years has a
> lawyer who wants a big cut of the back pay she will receive when her
> case is settled. Many of the mental health types that get their cases
> approved fast are handled by companies that take them back and forth
> to shrinks, to cl*****, to vocational rehab appointments, etc. etc.
> Doctors and service organizations make money off people.
>
> Who makes the laws? Lawyers and special interest groups.
>
> Congress knows the problems that exist but won't do anything because
> lawyers and doctors and cor****ations want to make money and can do so
> under the existing laws.
I can't fight this battle alone any longer, their are to many of
them and not enough of me. People need to stand up, get out of
their easy chairs and comfortable living modes and face the problems
that our laxness and laziness have created. We are responsible for
this mess, and WE are going to make it RIGHT or more innocent people
will suffer.
>
> There is only so much money to be doled out.
The government has borrowed money to finance death and destruction,
it can do the same to invest in people instead of being the instrument
of their deaths.
> Congress gets more bang
> for its buck by helping those that can help themselves. The more
> lawyers, doctors, and service companies they make happy, the more
> votes they get.
These people are only a minority when compared with us, thats why we
are referred to as the "m*****". Our representatives like money, I
have no doubts about that truth, but they also know that if enough
discontent americans speak to them and at them, and they fail to heed
those voices, they will not much longer be representing us, then all
the money they could be collecting will no longer be seeking them out,
so yes, I don't "think" we can get their attention...I KNOW WE CAN !
A whore is still basically one thing in anyones language, a whore ! We
just make their greedy nature work for us IF they want to keep in the
money. A whore is still a whore, and they will, always want more. This
is what you get for electing people that like large paychecks. I grant
you, the anology is to simplified, but service and loyalty have to
come from love of people, not love of profit.....we are electing
the wrong kinds of people to public office.
>
> I don't know how to solve the problem within our corrupt system of
> Government.
I do. It's time for the lazy american people to get off their
collective butts and clean up the trash !
> I do know how to help individuals one on one if I can be
> in their presence on a frequent basis. Feeding the poor is not the
> solution to the problem.
Granted, it isn't a permanent solution but it's the natural
place to start. When God fed the hebrews in the desert, He
sent them food in the form of manna, he didn't tell them that
food wouldn't be good for them at this time, and that later on
down the road He would create a rifle for them to hunt with.
A lot of good that will do when you are dead from starvation !
> Giving money to the needy is not the
> solution to the problem.
Trying to persuade employers to hire someone that hasn't had a shower
or a change of clothes in three weeks doesn't go over well either, but
when you and I take personal responsibility for these people and give
then the tools they need to survive on their own the story turns out
much different. This lady needed a safe place to sleep, food to eat,
medicine, clothes, and access to a telephone. Now that she has access
to these basic things she now has two job offers, which she would not
have should she still be in rags.
I am not convinced that giving people the basic things they need will
not make a difference in their lives, even if only one person in five
million blossoms as this lady has, we are that much better off for
footing the cost of the other 4, 999,999.
It's corrupt human nature to not want to help their your own kind
and other kinds to survive. We as humans have a unique responsibility
to life, the alternative isn't pleasant.
> Giving medical care to the sick is not the
> solution to the problem. Government welfare programs are nothing more
> than methods of enslaving people. The Government gives little and
> takes a lot of control.
It has to come from us, the people. We ARE the government, not the
whores, stooges & thugs that we elected to do our work for us ! It's
high PAST time to remove the trash from D.C.. and the state capitols,
and at least 3/4 of us MUST participate to make it a reality.
>
> My friend up in Iowa who is sick was a follower of Christ; but now
> follows the Mahari**** (the Iowa floaters). She gets some help from
> her long time boy friend who is an airline pilot who led her to the
> Mahari****. I've been gently working with her to get her back to
> Christ.
>
> Others that are around me that I can coach make better progress and
> some have got off the government dole, left their lives of slavery,
> and are now normal people who just happen to be children of God.
We have spent nearly 325 Billion dollars on the war in Iraq with
Haliburton being the only one to profit from the action. One would
think that if one is being paid to rebuild roads, schools, hospitals,
public buildings and bridges, then one would be doing that instead of
rebuilding oil pipelines to carry cheap Iraqi oil, which has been
producing 25 cent per gallon gasoline in Iraq, to the perian gulf to
be loaded onto Saudi tankers and processed into 4 dollar per gallon
gasoline stateside.
You can't tell me that 325 billion dollars wouldn't have done more
in the work to clear up problems then it would to create profits
for Haliburton and it's stockholders and employees !
You and I, "WE" are responsible for this mess, and it's "WE" thats
going to have to clean it UP !
> What I am getting to is that God is able and willing to deliver people
> if they are willing to change their lives so that they are in harmony
> with God's way; whether that be diet and exercise combined with right
> behavior, or; right behavior. The only way they can learn the right
> behavior is to learn the word of God wherein God makes known how to
> live life. It's not complicated like the religionists make it. It is
> simply learning how to enjoy fellow****p with the Father.
If I have learned anything from God it will be this; there is a time
and purpose for everything, and right now it's time to clean house
of the corruption that threatens to drag us down with it. Cancer
doesn't go away on it's own, and these problems won't eva****ate on
their own either, in spite of wishful thinking.
>
> There are two words in the Bible worth speaking about with regard to
> the above. Thresskia is religion, the outward ceremonial things that
> people do as a part of their religion. All that can be counterfieted.
>
> The other word is "eusebia" which is the word translated "godliness"
> which is really a true and vital spiritual relation****p with God where
> God is the Father and the person is God's kid that God is responsible
> for taking care of.
>
> Our Government is made up of people who behave just like people do.
> Our society is made up of people who behave just like people do. We
> live in a period of lawlessness and it will get worse as the return of
> Christ for His church draws near. The denominations are part of the
> lawlessness. When you mix the church and the state; well, you see
> what happens.
>
> People have to learn how to take care of themselves. They need to be
> taught how to take the offensive rather than being on the defense in a
> lawless society led by lawless government and lawless denominations.
> Church and state are people enslavers and people killers.
>
> You or I can not change the lives of millions. But we can change our
> own lives and then help others one at a time to do what we have done.
> There used to be a saying "Each one reach one" which referred to one
> on one witnessing to and sheparding people to the point where their
> lives were such that they could reach one and teach one. That's how
> the first centurry church did things when people met in homes and
> could be themselves. As time progressed and politics and philosophy
> and religion got control of the church, things started deteriorating.
>
> Just know that God knows your heart and that God will work in you both
> to do and will of His good pleasure. Learn these verses and do them:
>
> Php 2:12-16 KJV
> 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my
> presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own
> salvation with fear and trembling.
> 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his
> good pleasure.
> 14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
> 15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without
> rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye
> ****ne as lights in the world;
> 16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of
> Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
>
> You take care of you and your family and do the best you can to help
> the "sheep" (not the goats) that God sends your way. Let Him do the
> rest. You don't have to be an apostle or a prophet or an evangelist
> or pastor or teacher to serve God and God's people. All you have to
> be is you, love God, and love God's people. That means doing what is
> right and best for individuals. The fruit of the Spirit is manifested
> in the lives of those who love and obey God and who willingly love
> others God's way.
What is God's way, really ? Does it consist of turning a blind eye to
corruption, or does it include allowing an old woman to go hungry and
exposed to cruelties without number ?
Perhaps God's people should actually get off their ***** and BE God's
people instead of manufacturing reasons why things can't get done !
>
> Teddy Roosevelt said -
>
> It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the
> strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them
> better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
> whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives
> valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is
> no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive
> to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who
> spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the
> triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at
> least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be
> with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
Teddy was right.
>
> Let God handle the Government and the religionists and then let God
> work through you.
God made US responsible for US. When you tell your child to clean
their room and they fail to do it, you don't go in and clean it for
them due to their failure to obey you, do you ?
>
> In my own life which includes a lot more than what I read and write
> about on Usenet; there are real people with real needs and real
> desires that I work with on a one on one basis. I am not looking
> forward to eternal rewards for what I write on Usenet. There are no
> rewards for writing. Rewards are for service to the body face to face
> one on one and you must contend legally in order to receive the
> reward. But there is more to it than that.
>
> When you contend legally the people who you care about receive the
> benefits of your service and you receive the satisfaction and joy of
> seeing God work through you to help others. There ain't nothing
> better than seeing someone delivered. It's better than getting
> delivered yoruself.
>
> From what I have read from you and from what we have talked about, I
> believe that you have already doing the following:
>
> Php 2:2-4 KJV
> 2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love,
> being of one accord, of one mind.
> 3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness
> of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
> 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the
> things of others.
>
> You can't give what you ain't got.
No, I cannot, but I would have it had I not elected corrupt
and greedy officials....and I am glad to say I am willing
and able to contribute towards a remedy !
> Love God, love yourself and your
> family, and love the sheep God sends your way.
You can't love anyone and allow this to continue...
Rod
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