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Re: Economist nonsense Soc.Sec. and houses

by Curly Surmudgeon <curlysurmudgeon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 21, 2008 at 04:02 PM

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:38:43 -0800, Peter Franks wrote:

> Michael Coburn wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:07:22 -0800, Peter Franks wrote:
>> 
>>> Mason C wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:00:11 -0800, Peter Franks <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mason C wrote:
>>>>>> That is a failure of the unregulated free market -- overselling and
>>>>>> in many cases outright deception if not criminal fraud.
>>>>> What is an example of the deception and/or fraud?
>>>>>
>>>> Deception:  telling people they could afford a house they *obviously*
>>>> could *not* afford.
>>> ?
>>>
>>> I've always assumed that was MY responsibility.  So is what you are
>>> saying that it is someone else's job to tell me what I can and can't
>>> afford???  If that is the case, I've never listened to or obeyed what
>>> someone else has told me to do wrt what I can and can't afford. 
Please
>>> explain why I'm not in debt and live within my means?
>>>
>>>> Fraud:  unrecorded verbal instruction at odds with the fine print.
>>> ?
>>>
>>> What are these "unrecorded verbal instructions" you speak of?
>>>
>>> Doesn't the fine print say that the fine print is the last word on an
>>> issue, verbal instructions aren't authorized nor part of the contract?
>>> That is what it says on most every one of my contracts...
>>>
>>>>> How come I didn't get suckered into the deception and fraud when I
>>>>> refinanced several years ago?
>>>> I assume from what you say that you were not one of the "many cases."
>>>> You were smart or lucky.  (I'm surprised by your question.)
>>> Luck had nothing to do with it.  Smart, I don't know.  But I did read
>>> the contract and I did take personal responsibility for my actions.
>> 
>> This "debate" was settled long ago.  But the rightards will never let
it 
>> go.  The buyers saw a chance to improve their lot.  They would probably

>> never had a chance to do so if not this _ONE_.  They had no money and
no 
>> assets to lose and everything to gain.  If the bubble continued then
they 
>> would end up in much better financial shape than what would have been
had 
>> they not participated.  They also would be living in better 
>> accommodations.  When someone offers you such a deal you are a complete

>> moron to turn away.  And all the other members of your economic group 
>> will leave you in the dust as they take advantage of this OP****TUNITY.
>> 
>> The point is that this op****tunity should not have existed.  And it 
>> existed due to deregulation, greed and the lust for power.  It existed 
>> because the Republicans needed the housing bubble to continue to sell 
>> their make war and cut taxes s**** oil economics.  It was not the poor 
>> people who bought the homes that were the malignancy.  It was the
lying, 
>> thieving latter day Republican party.
> 
> Funny, you didn't answer any of my questions!

He did, you just didn't get it...

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Economist nonsense Soc.Sec. and houses
Mason C <masoncXXX@[EM  2008-11-20 21:44:15 
Re: Economist nonsense Soc.Sec. and houses
Peter Franks <none@[EM  2008-11-20 22:00:11 
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Mason C <masoncXXX@[EM  2008-11-20 22:17:40 
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Peter Franks <none@[EM  2008-11-21 10:07:22 
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Mason C <masoncXXX@[EM  2008-11-21 14:31:55 
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Peter Franks <none@[EM  2008-11-21 15:36:55 
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Mason C <masoncXXX@[EM  2008-11-21 23:37:06 
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Peter Franks <none@[EM  2008-11-22 12:01:41 
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Curly Surmudgeon <curl  2008-11-22 13:03:54 
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Mason C <masoncXXX@[EM  2008-11-22 14:35:45 
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Peter Franks <none@[EM  2008-11-22 17:26:12 
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Knickkklas@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-11-23 07:00:50 
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"Heywood Jablowmi&q  2008-11-22 16:16:16 
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"Squid" <ano  2008-11-21 08:11:46 
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ZerkonXXXX <Z@[EMAIL P  2008-11-21 16:04:29 
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ZerkonXXXX <Z@[EMAIL P  2008-11-21 16:34:53 
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Peter Franks <none@[EM  2008-11-21 10:15:51 
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Michael Coburn <mikcob  2008-11-21 18:22:56 
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Curly Surmudgeon <curl  2008-11-21 11:03:18 
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Peter Franks <none@[EM  2008-11-21 12:38:43 
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Curly Surmudgeon <curl  2008-11-21 16:02:40 
Re: Economist nonsense Soc.Sec. and houses
Peter Franks <none@[EM  2008-11-21 18:26:37 
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Knicklas!@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-11-22 07:58:27 
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ZerkonXXXX <Z@[EMAIL P  2008-11-22 13:31:36 
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Peter Franks <none@[EM  2008-11-22 12:12:49 
Re: Economist nonsense Soc.Sec. and houses
"V for Vendicar"  2008-11-26 17:40:44 
Re: Economist nonsense Soc.Sec. and houses
Mason C <masoncXXX@[EM  2008-11-26 18:56:32 
Re: Economist nonsense Soc.Sec. and houses
"V for Vendicar"  2008-12-03 19:08:14 

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