"FACE" <AFaceInTheCrowd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:07:36 +0100, in uk.politics.misc "DVH"
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>>"Michael Laudahn eOpposition" <laudahn2002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> See also
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>>> http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_580262.html?wt.bron=homeArt4
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>>Brussels Journal says:
>>
>>"I just received a phone call from Aeneas, a British blogger who is in
>>Brussels for the SIOE demonstration. It was hard to hear him during our
>>conversation due to the sirens in the background.
>>
>>The demonstration is proceeding, and, despite the rumors in advance, the
>>Brussels police are not allowing the demonstrators to protest without
>>hindrance. People are being dragged away by the police and put into
buses.
>>
>>Flyboy then got on the phone and told me that riot police have been
>>deployed, and that dogs and water cannon are being used against the
>>demonstrators. There has been no violence except by the police. I could
>>hear
>>the demonstrators chanting and dogs barking in the background.
>>
>>Paul Belien of the Brussels Journal was the next person to talk to me.
He
>>says that there are maybe 500 demonstrators in Schuman Square, and that
>>many
>>of those are being arrested and carried away. He has seen Danish,
Swedish,
>>British, American, and Canadian flags on display.
>>
>>There is a large contingent of Vlaams Belang (the Flemish separatist
>>party)
>>at the demonstration, and the party's leaders are among those arrested.
>>Mr.
>>Belien says that the president of the party, Frank Venhecke, was beaten
to
>>the ground by the police, arrested, and put into a bus.
>>
>>It seems that the police are trying to arrest everybody at the
>>demonstration. I will add updates when I hear more."
>>
>>http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2438
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>>
>
> Try this video said to be from Brussels today
> http://www.vlaamsbelang.be/files/islammanifestatie.wmv
I'm almost certain it's genuine. Thanks for the link.
It's incredible. The surest way to make brutes is to be brutes, and
wrestling a besuited pensioner to the ground is a good way to start.
As the fellah said "if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes
also
into you".
Here is more from an eye witness. I'm reasonably well persuaded it's more
or
less truthful, but you may have your own opinion.
"However, . For some or other reason police made a dash towards selected
demonstrators and singled out those, who for all intents and purposes
didn't
in any way seem 'aggressive' from my 50 yard away-off-to-the-side view.
All
those that were brutally manhandled suffered the hyper-adrenaline anger of
some eager roughshot-riding police, and although they put up with the
assault, they didn't as such retaliate. Although they did not quite
"resist"
the person in authority, one was hard put to tell whether the struggles
that
ensued, were not caused by the 'brute way' in which they were thrown to
the
ground, or it jus may be they simply wanted to prevent their three-piece
suits from being torn. And when they voiced their disagreement with the
way
they were manacled, they protested the fact that they were manhandled.
Some
protesters even involuntarily ran in to 2-foot truncheons, that happened
to
be in the way.
It needn't have come to that. There was simply no momentum. This was
unnecessary. An overreaction to an out of control fenomenon. If the police
hadn't acted as they have,. they would have come out tops. As is the case,
and under orders, they're the losers,. Brussels lost face. If one is
treated
the way these politicians today have been treated for peacefully
protesting
against a ban on being allowed to peacefully demonstrate, then there's
something wrong. Acutely and perversely wrong.
For, for example the United States as constitutional democracy,
specifically
allows for peaceful demonstrations to address social and/or political
grievances and specifically allows the freedom of assembly to express
these
grievances. In the 'New-Europe' Capital it is now abundantly clear one has
no such rights."
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2440
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