On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:13:53 +0100, in uk.politics.misc "DVH"
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>"FACE" <AFaceInTheCrowd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:07:36 +0100, in uk.politics.misc "DVH"
>> <dvh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>"Michael Laudahn eOpposition" <laudahn2002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>news:1189521693.026704.298240@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> See also
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>>>> http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_580262.html?wt.bron=homeArt4
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>>>Brussels Journal says:
>>>
>>>"I just received a phone call from Aeneas, a British blogger who is in
>>>Brussels for the SIOE demonstration. It was hard to hear him during our
>>>conversation due to the sirens in the background.
>>>
>>>The demonstration is proceeding, and, despite the rumors in advance,
the
>>>Brussels police are not allowing the demonstrators to protest without
>>>hindrance. People are being dragged away by the police and put into
buses.
>>>
>>>Flyboy then got on the phone and told me that riot police have been
>>>deployed, and that dogs and water cannon are being used against the
>>>demonstrators. There has been no violence except by the police. I could
>>>hear
>>>the demonstrators chanting and dogs barking in the background.
>>>
>>>Paul Belien of the Brussels Journal was the next person to talk to me.
He
>>>says that there are maybe 500 demonstrators in Schuman Square, and that
>>>many
>>>of those are being arrested and carried away. He has seen Danish,
Swedish,
>>>British, American, and Canadian flags on display.
>>>
>>>There is a large contingent of Vlaams Belang (the Flemish separatist
>>>party)
>>>at the demonstration, and the party's leaders are among those arrested.
>>>Mr.
>>>Belien says that the president of the party, Frank Venhecke, was beaten
to
>>>the ground by the police, arrested, and put into a bus.
>>>
>>>It seems that the police are trying to arrest everybody at the
>>>demonstration. I will add updates when I hear more."
>>>
>>>http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2438
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>>>
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>> Try this video said to be from Brussels today
>> http://www.vlaamsbelang.be/files/islammanifestatie.wmv
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>I'm almost certain it's genuine. Thanks for the link.
>
>It's incredible. The surest way to make brutes is to be brutes, and
>wrestling a besuited pensioner to the ground is a good way to start.
>
>As the fellah said "if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes
also
>into you".
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>Here is more from an eye witness. I'm reasonably well persuaded it's more
or
>less truthful, but you may have your own opinion.
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>"However, . For some or other reason police made a dash towards selected
>demonstrators and singled out those, who for all intents and purposes
didn't
>in any way seem 'aggressive' from my 50 yard away-off-to-the-side view.
All
>those that were brutally manhandled suffered the hyper-adrenaline anger
of
>some eager roughshot-riding police, and although they put up with the
>assault, they didn't as such retaliate. Although they did not quite
"resist"
>the person in authority, one was hard put to tell whether the struggles
that
>ensued, were not caused by the 'brute way' in which they were thrown to
the
>ground, or it jus may be they simply wanted to prevent their three-piece
>suits from being torn. And when they voiced their disagreement with the
way
>they were manacled, they protested the fact that they were manhandled.
Some
>protesters even involuntarily ran in to 2-foot truncheons, that happened
to
>be in the way.
>
>It needn't have come to that. There was simply no momentum. This was
>unnecessary. An overreaction to an out of control fenomenon. If the
police
>hadn't acted as they have,. they would have come out tops. As is the
case,
>and under orders, they're the losers,. Brussels lost face. If one is
treated
>the way these politicians today have been treated for peacefully
protesting
>against a ban on being allowed to peacefully demonstrate, then there's
>something wrong. Acutely and perversely wrong.
>
>For, for example the United States as constitutional democracy,
specifically
>allows for peaceful demonstrations to address social and/or political
>grievances and specifically allows the freedom of assembly to express
these
>grievances. In the 'New-Europe' Capital it is now abundantly clear one
has
>no such rights."
>
>http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2440
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>x-posts added.
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To be kind, that tape was an outrage.
I showed it to the miz and she said 'why are they treating those men in
suits that
way'.
I paused it on the garrison-capped cops (not the 'baseball-capped' ones)
and asked
what she thought they looked like and got the expected answer.............
FACE
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