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Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"

by "Iconoclast" <Iconoclast@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 28, 2007 at 05:31 PM

"Starkiller©" <NoSpam.SKS_SKanz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:k11sk3l0a62cg99nj8ckm4dtrlv38nb9td@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:03:15 -0700, "Iconoclast"
> <Iconoclast@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:bqsrk3996340isgaj03mc8o1eepud781nn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> 9-year old suspended for 'hate crime'
>>> Robert Anglen The Arizona Republic
>>> Nov. 27, 2007 03:05 PM
>>>
>>> A Glendale elementary school principal has admitted to telling a
9-year
>>> old boy that
>>> it is OK to have racist feelings as long as you keep them to yourself.
>>>
>>> "As we said to (the boy) when he was in here, in your heart you may
have
>>> that
>>> feeling, and that is OK if that is your personal belief," Abraham 
>>> Lincoln
>>> Traditional
>>> School Principal Virginia Voinovich said in a tape-recorded 
>>> parent-teacher
>>> conference.
>>>
>>> The boy was suspended for three days this month for allegedly
committing 
>>> a
>>> "hate
>>> crime" by using the expression "brown people."
>>>
>>> In an interview Monday, Voinovich would not address her comments,
first
>>> saying she
>>> didn't remember the incident, then demanding a copy of the recording
and
>>> finally
>>> insisting that she could not talk about a student's discipline.
>>>
>>> The cir***stances of the boy's suspension itself raise troubling 
>>> questions
>>> about
>>> student discipline, interrogation and oversight at Abraham Lincoln.
>>>
>>> According to school officials, the boy made a statement about "brown
>>> people" to
>>> another elementary student with whom he was having a conflict. They
>>> maintain it was
>>> his second offense using the phrase.
>>>
>>> But the tape recording indicates this only came out after another
parent
>>> was allowed
>>> to question the boy and elicited from him the statement that he
"doesn't
>>> cooperate
>>> with brown people."
>>>
>>> After that was re****ted to the boy's teacher, he was made to stand in
>>> front of his
>>> class and publicly confess what he'd said.
>>>
>>> The boy maintains that he never said it; that the words were put in
his
>>> mouth by the
>>> parent who questioned him. That parent happens to be the mother of the
>>> student with
>>> whom he is having a conflict-and she happens to work for Abraham
Lincoln
>>> as a
>>> detention-room officer.
>>>
>>> The tape indicates that rather than just spouting off with racial
>>> invective, the boy
>>> was asked first why he didn't want to cooperate with brown people by
the
>>> parent/school official.
>>>
>>> In court, this might be called entrapment. Not to mention a conflict
of
>>> interest.
>>>
>>> Officials at the Wa****ngton Elementary School District, who are
supposed
>>> to oversee
>>> Voinovich, wouldn't comment about the boy's suspension. They said only

>>> the
>>> principal
>>> is qualified to talk about it.
>>>
>>> Well, the boy's mother is talking, and she is angry. She has also 
>>> removed
>>> her son
>>> from the school.
>>>
>>> "I want parents to know . that principals can abuse their powers," 
>>> Sherry
>>> Neve, 35,
>>> said. "Principals need to have pro-active supervisors. I want the 
>>> parents
>>> to know
>>> that the principal was influencing my son in a way I wouldn't want him

>>> to
>>> be raised."
>>> Neve said school officials didn't advise her of the incident until 
>>> several
>>> days after
>>> they questioned her son. When Neve objected to the suspension during
the
>>> conference,
>>> Voinovich told her that she didn't have any rights; that parents give
up
>>> their rights
>>> to discipline when they send a child to school, the tape shows.
>>>
>>> "If you don't want that, you can take him out of here," Voinovich said
>>> tersely.
>>>
>>> Neve insists that her son is not a racist and that he never 
>>> differentiated
>>> a person's
>>> color until the school made it in an issue.
>>>
>>> "We were raised to be color blind," she said. "My children were raised

>>> the
>>> same way."
>>> But let's assume for a minute that the boy actually made the comment. 
>>> Does
>>> this make
>>> him a racist and guilty of a hate crime? Or does it make him a
confused
>>> 9-year-old in
>>> need of counseling?
>>>
>>> Instead of taking an op****tunity to educate the boy and get to the
root 
>>> of
>>> the
>>> problem, the principal taught him another lesson altogether: It's OK
to
>>> feel like a
>>> racist as long as you keep your feelings to yourself.
>>>
>>> Kids often say the darndest things. Apparently, so do principals.
>>>
>>
>>This is the kind of mental terrorism one would have expected during the
>>Cultural Revolution in Red China or in Vietnam after the fall of Saigon
or
>>in Stalinist Russia.  I hope the boy had a nice 3 day vacation and
enjoyed
>>his brief freedom from the indoctrination camp.  Since when did
mentioning
>>the color of a person's skin become a thought crime?
>>
> It happened around the same time that having fingernail clippers
> became carrying a concealed weapon and having Rolaids became carrying
> drugs to school.
>

Thank you.  It would appear that the attacks on 9/11 coincided with some 
kind of coup d'etat then.  Certainly the people running our Dept. of 
Education and the public schools (sic) act more like Marxists and enemy 
combatants than like patriotic Americans.  If the boy had mentioned white 
skinned people, would he have been charged with hate speech?

>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Starkiller©
>
>
> "Eta Kooram Nah Smech!"
 




 12 Posts in Topic:
9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
AnAmericanCitizen <NoA  2007-11-28 15:03:43 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
"Iconoclast" &l  2007-11-28 17:03:15 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
Starkiller© <NoSpam.SK  2007-11-28 18:14:54 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
"Iconoclast" &l  2007-11-28 17:31:16 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
Starkiller© <NoSpam.SK  2007-11-28 19:24:31 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
"Scruffy McScruffovi  2007-11-28 20:26:45 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
Starkiller© <NoSpam.SK  2007-11-28 19:52:03 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
AnAmericanCitizen <NoA  2007-11-29 15:17:20 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
"Scruffy McScruffovi  2007-11-29 21:17:48 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
T Jr Hardman <blockspa  2007-11-30 12:29:13 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-29 04:47:36 
Re: 9-Year Old Suspended for "Hate Crime"
AnAmericanCitizen <NoA  2007-11-29 15:26:30 

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