In article <w7Tpj.6200$J41.2744@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
"M.Butzin" <mfbutzin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > A man is worth what one is willing to pay him and no more. We don't
> > have jobs in this country for the purpose of Americans having jobs.
We
> > have jobs because a person or company needs help to produce products
or
> > services. They base the rate of pay by how much profit they can make
on
> > the services of an employee. When you force a company to pay a person
> > more than the job is worth, you end up with a situation similar to
what
> > we have today.
>
> Your job you perform today, your paid either by the mile or the hour,
that
> pay was raised to what it is because of the work of men like Hoffa and
> unions, I remember when drivers who hauled freight didn't get paid for
> unloading. My starting pay was 22 cents a mile and a dollar a pound for
> unloading. That's $40.00 for 40 thousand pounds and 149.50 a day in
mileage
> (23 cents a mile), I often went toe to toe with dispatchers who told me
to
> run two log books, or pull trailers that didn't have good tires or
brakes. I
> was offered the other day $1.50 per mile, but I had to buy my own fuel
and
> insurance and run local (three states,TX, ARK, LA.) no drop and hooks,
all
> fingerprint loads. The unions put a stop to companies like the one I
worked
> for who wanted me to violate the law in one fa****on or another, they had
> maps of where the weight stations were and how to avoid them (written
> directions) in a note book with a pocket for your "bingo card". Instead
of
> pulling your rig into a truck stop and have the dogs fixed so you could
> slide the 5th forward or backward to scale out properly. Or the pigtail
> socket on the trailer fall out in your hand and they want you to rewire
it
> in the pouring rain. Things are better in the trucking industry because
of
> unions, you enjoy better conditions because of unions, your pay is
higher
> because of unions just as your retirement and health are.
Unions started off as a good idea for some of the conditions you are
describing. However, when they started to force companies to pay their
idea of wages and benefits, that's when things got (and still are at
times) out of control.
During discussions with my father--a union bricklayer, he often brings
up the same rap. "You wouldn't make what you make today if no for
unions." I reply by telling him I wouldn't have to make what I make
today if unions didn't get involved.
I told him I could work for half of what I work for today if he did the
same. The homes and buildings he worked on would be half of today's
price. Therefore, I could afford one of the homes he built on half of
what I make today.
The unions only brought on a domino effect, and it continues today. Why
do you think government is so expensive? Government jobs are all union,
and when they need work done by an outside company, they have to hire
union companies.
> > The supply and demand process of workers is a near perfect system.
But
> > when you bring in people such as unions or illegals to cheat the
system,
> > you throw a monkey wrench in the works.
> >
> > You are correct about one thing, and that is Social Security. It's a
> > forced tax that has little benefits.
>
> So the big and little companies who dug their heels in against the
> government telling them "what to do" in their business the government
had to
> step in and make them contribute a minimial amount of their profit to
Social
> Security because the unscruplious business owners, either refused to
have a
> pension fund for it's employees or out right stole the money from the
> worker. The minimun wage is also in part due to unions, I remember my
mom
> making 27 cents an hour sewing ****rts, that's why people join unions.
And I know people who used to work in the steel mills years ago before
they closed up. When I was young and still in school, I was in a band.
The other guitar player was an older kid and worked at the steel mills.
One day, he asked me if I wanted to take a ride with him so he could
pick up his check I said of course. I knew he worked on the trains,
but I never knew what he did. So when we got to the mills, I asked him.
He said "I'm a coal man." I said " A coal man? What in hell does a
coal man do?" He said "A coal man is the guy that shovels coal into the
engine of the trains to make them run." Confused, I said "they don't
have trains anymore that run on coal!" He said "You're correct, but the
union states that each train has to have a coal man." And he proceeded
to laugh.
His job was to ride around on trains all day and night and do absolutely
nothing, all because the unions wanted more union dues from a worker
that didn't work. And of course, at the expense of the steel mills.
And I have many more stories like that, but I don't want to respond with
a mega post. He laughed--they all laughed back then, and today, they
are not laughing anymore. The unions are still rich, the steel mills
closed, and all of these workers the unions supposedly were for are all
doing something else for a living.
--
All saints have a past--all sinners have a future
Ronald Reagan
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