****en jews ....
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http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=88798
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:35 pm
Post subject: Even the British, our closest ally, admit that Israeli
soldiers
target children
From: BGJDAVID
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:38:42 EDT
General Jim David (who is mentioned on the cover of former Republican
Congressman Paul Findley's 'They Dare to Speak Out' book - third edition)
wrote the following intro:
Too bad that they can't see this for themselves, but when you refuse to
take
off the blinders that's what happens. Maybe if they did take off those
blinders then they would realize that what they have been doing to these
Palestinians is a sin in God's name. Instead of condemning the crimes that
the
Israelis commit they condemn those who re****t the crimes. In other words,
killing Palestinian children and demoli****ng Palestinian homes, and
stealing
Palestinian land, and assassinating Palestinian leaders, and imposing
collective punishment, and dropping one ton bombs on Palestinian
apartments,
and shelling Palestinian families on a picnic and killing the entire
family of
9, and killing a mother and her 4 children, are not what matters to these
extreme zionists--it's those who re****t these crimes that matters and it's
those people they immediately accuse of "anti-Semitism." They have
successfully accomplished this fear of criticism that our entire
government
and our media dare to say a word. Our political leader drop to their knees
whenever a zionist p***** by. This by itself is a major factor that has
contributed to the overall turmoil we see today. It's time we call a spade
a
spade.
In a message dated 5/1/2008 10:23:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Jean wrote:
Well God bless those observers! Of course they target children - we
witnessed
that ourselves - Jim read many x-rays of small children shot in the head
with
so-called rubber bullets. They seem to like to aim for the head - a lot of
those living had at least one eye shot out. One little girl in Gaza came
up to
me with a few pumpkin seeds in her hand and offered to share them. She
looked
right into my eyes and asked "Why do Americans hate us?" She was about 9
or
10. Very bright - I told her I didn't and most Americans didn't, that it
was
our government. What a terrible thing for a child to have to endure. Over
here, one shool gets shot up and some students die and the survivors are
given
psychiatric treatments for years. Palestine is an entire nation under
seige,
along with all of the children. Imagine it.
It made me have chills reading this re****t. Telling about the Jews often
taking aim but then not shooting at some innocent Palestinian. Then of
course
one of them did.
Brought back memories when we were in Bethlehem with a large group, one an
emissary of Jimmy Carter's. I walked across from the church to a house
that
had been badly shot up, no one lived there anymore. I faced the church to
make
a photo. Two little kids went with me - I didn't know them. Army jeep came
fast around the corner, guy jumps out, army uniform, M-16, got into firing
position on one knee, aimed squarely at us, waving the gun back and forth
as
if he were going to just spray us with bullets. I saw myself dead, name in
Atlanta papers, "Professor's wife shot dead with two small children - her
husband, an M.D. at Atlanta's Emory University clinic is in shock." I saw
that
in my head. And I wondered what would happen then. Nothing? Then just as
suddenly as the terrorist aimed at us, the guy driving was on a walkie
talkie,
the gunman got up, got in the jeep and they sped off! I wondered if the
guy
with the walkie talkie saved our lives for some reason. Too risky? They
knew
we were Americans - they were watching us. Two Palestinian teens had not
run
into the church as the rest of the people did when the jeep roared into
action
and I asked one of them "Why in God's name did they do that?" One said,
"They
thought you were a Palestinian woman with children. Sometimes they shoot."
I
will never forget that "sometimes they shoot." And was reminded of that
reading about the dead boy.
The world should know about these terror-hate driven Israelis, many of
them
are Americans with dual citizen****p. It simply could not happen anywhere
else
in the world in a modern country without getting a lot of publicity. If it
happened here? It would be in every paper. Yet we pay those bastards
billions
of dollars. Obama's minister was right when he said some things he felt
about
America being punished by God and 9-11 being brought on due to things our
administration had done. I don't think of God as a collective punishment
guy,
but I certainly do believe 9-11 was a reaction to the millions of lives
lost
in senseless wars for greed and power, usually against areas that are
pretty
defenseless. When 9-ll happened I was watching TV - I immediately called a
Palestinian friend and I said to her, "The Palestinians have found a way
to
get even with what our government is doing to them." I really thought
that.
Her husband Hani said, "No, it was not a Palestinian."
The ravings of online angel person is an indication of what makes those
types
tick - the killers of Israel. What kind of person would go and live there,
in
settlements on land confiscated from the rightful owners? Can you imagine
the
kind of owners that would be? Thieves who will do anything to keep their
stolen property.
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: BGJDAVID
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: Even the British, our closest ally, admit that Israeli soldiers
target children.
Published on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 in the Guardian/UK
Israeli Soldier Killed Boy in Cold Blood, Say British Volunteers
by Jonathan Steele
A 13-year-old Palestinian boy was deliberately shot dead by an Israeli
soldier
without any provocation, say two British human rights volunteers who
witnessed
the incident.
An Israeli army spokesman confirmed last night that an inquiry had been
launched.
"I was with three other international volunteers in a street in Nablus on
Sunday with Baha Albahsh, who often tags along with us," said one of the
witnesses, who gave his first name as Al. "There had been some
stone-throwing
at tanks and armored personnel carriers which enforce the curfew. It
happens
frequently and our practice is to stand at the side to observe. We always
make
sure the Israelis see us, and we don't stand with the kids as it can
encourage
them."
He said the incident appeared to be over and people had dispersed when an
armored personnel carrier stopped nearby. "I heard a single shot, and Baha
was
lying on the ground, his eyes glazed and blood starting to come out of his
mouth. It was clear he had no chance. An ambulance came within two minutes
and
he died in it. A high-velocity bullet had destroyed his left lung."
Al, who declined to give his surname because of the problems he says
volunteers face at the air****t when they leave Israel, has been working in
Nablus for about six weeks.
"This is the worst thing I've seen in my time here. Actually, it's the
worst
thing I've seen in my life. There was no way Baha could have been a threat
to
a soldier 120 yards away with a flak jacket and a helmet and sitting in an
APC. He had nothing in his hands and even if he'd had a stone he could not
have thrown it effectively from that distance. I went back today and
measured
the distance exactly. The shot was not a ricochet. As far as I'm
concerned,
these people are child-killers, whether or not they were aiming at the
boy.
There was no reason to shoot."
Another of the four volunteers, Ewa Jasiewics, 24, from London, said: "An
armored personnel carrier came and stopped on the left of the street. A
soldier popped up from inside. I saw him with his rifle and he aimed at
some
kids on the street. There was no stone-throwing or shooting going on at
the
time."
She said that in a month spent with Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza
Strip she had often seen soldiers train gunsights on people without
further
incident. "This time was different. This soldier fired. It wasn't
accidental.
The soldiers decided to kill him."
An Israeli spokesman said that the army was trying to establish what
happened:
"The first *****sment was that an army patrol saw a child lighting a
firebomb
which then set him on fire. But until we can have better information I
cannot
comment."
A doctor at Rafidia hospital in Nablus said the teenager was killed by a
bullet which entered through the shoulder and penetrated his chest.
Nablus suffered the worst destruction of any West Bank city during the
Israeli
army's re-occupation this spring, and it has been under almost constant
curfew
since June 21: children are unable to attend school and shops are shut.
The International Solidarity Movement brings volunteers to live and work
among
Palestinians to try to act as a restraint on Israeli forces - even
providing a
human ****eld for Palestinians. Volunteers are often detained and de****ted.
© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2002
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:37 pm
Post subject:
Donald Jones was a consultant for the CIA, Janes and the GAO:
From: "Donald Jones"
Subject: RE: Re: Even the British, our closest ally, admit that Israeli
soldiers target ch... Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:15:49 -0400
A number of re****ts have been done on the nature of the wounds suffered by
Palestinians of all ages. A dispro****tionate number of the wounds have
been
aimed head shots. The Israelis also use steel slugs covered by a thin
layer of
rubber. These will kill if they strike you over the heart or in the head.
The
Israelis use beehive tank rounds containing 5,000 steel darts to attack
muslims, including women and children. Over 250 Palestinian children under
the
age of six have been killed in their beds by Israeli soldiers. More than
10,000 Palestinian homes have been destroyed. In one case, an Israeli tank
used an ambush-buster round to knock down a house. The house fell over on
a
mosque and rendered it unusable. The Israelis have targeted hospitals,
fruit
markets, vegetable markets, pharmacies, electric power grids, water
distribution systems, schools, for destruction. The Israelis have mounted
concerted attacks on Palestinian food supplies by separating hot houses
from
water supplies. Hundreds of roadblocks and forbidden roads have turned
five-minute trips in 12-hour trips for the Palestinians. The Israelis
ceaselessly destroy Palestinian ex****ts such as cut flowers.
Unfortunately,
Bush and his pals have made the US part and parcel of this form of
genocide. I
DONT BLAME THE ARABS FOR HATING US.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:50 pm
Post subject:
US Sup****t of Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians PRIMARY
MOTIVATION for tragic attacks on the World Trade Center in 1993 and on
9/11:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:52 pm
Post subject:
Video that gets to the Israel question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg
http://www.IRmep.org/jm.wmv
The Gorilla in the Room is US Sup****t for Israel
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/gorilla-in-room-is-us-sup****t-for.html
SCANDAL: 9/11 Commissioners Bowed to Pressure to Suppress Main Motive for
the
9/11 Attacks:
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/09/reviews-of-without-precedent-inside.html
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:53 pm
Post subject:
guardian?? Guardian?? Laughing Laughing
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:59 pm
Post subject:
The Israeli Zio-NAZI weighs in yet again in 'defense' of Israeli
Apartheid!
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:00 pm
Post subject:
I was of course referring to Ilana above... The Russian Jew (of Bolshevik
descent) whose parents relocated to Palestine and have brutalized the
endemic
population of Palestinians there ever since (putting America at risk in
the
process for sup****ting such via AIPAC and similar as Paul Findley so
eloquently describes in his 'They Dare to Speak Out' book).
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: Reply to topic
We were tragically attacked at the World Trade Center in 1993 and on 9/11
because of US sup****t of Israel which resulted in the 'War on Terror' that
has
eroded our Constitutional civil liberties:
So we are having the Bill of Rights shredded because of sup****t for Israel
in
the BILLIONS of US taxpayer dollars while US states go broke (see how much
Israel receives via the links at http://www.wrmea.com
). Founding Father
George Wa****ngton warned US (in his Farewell Address - see the bottom of
www.astandforjustice.org ) to avoid the passionate attachment for any
foreign
country and artificially making that foreign country's interests our own
(like
we have done with Israel which is taking US down).
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"Sit Down!" The Power to Silence
Leo Braudy says there's only a few minutes left YET he finds time for
himself
to ask two more questions! When does a panel discussion ever end, go to
the Q
and A and THEN go back to the moderator asking even more questions of the
panel? (when you want to serve Israel's agenda)
It is depraved to deny the main motive for the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7EB1FxENxQ
The Public Campaign to Stop
the Lies and the Denial of
the Main Motive for the 9/11 Attacks:
U.S. Sup****t for Israel
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Even Michael Scheuer (who used to head up the Bin Laden unit for the CIA)
basically endorsed Ron Paul in the following youtube video (of course the
fifth columnist Israel first crowd doesn't like Ron Paul!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAehMPVFFE0
Michael Scheuer (former head of CIA Bin Laden unit) was on Bill Maher. He
said:
" Israel is not worth an American life or an American dollar." and
"Our unqualified sup****t of Israel has brought the US a great deal of pain
and
increasingly dead Americans, fighting wars that are not ours to fight."
and
" America is fighting a war that does not exist -- our politicians have
lied
to us-it is not about hating freedom, womens' rights etc.---it is about
our
policies in the Middle East ."
Bill Maher who is Jewish was clearly shaken.
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Straight from Bin Laden's mouth on how US sup****t of what Israel does to
Palestine was the primary motivation for 9/11 (our terror problem has been
compounded by the war for Israel in Iraq as he mentions Iraq as well):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dls5JTD-uG0
Bin Laden Urges Holy War Over Palestine
Al Qaeda Leader Slams Negotiations With Israel In Pur****ted New Audio Tape
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/20/terror/main3954981.shtml
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http://web.archive.org/web/20040725012414/http://www.kentucky.com/mld/heraldleader/news/nation/9222612.htm
Posted on Fri, Jul. 23, 2004
THE MASTERMIND
U.S. policy on Israel key motive for effort
PLOTTER INVOLVED BIN LADEN TO GAIN MORE RESOURCES
By Terry McDermott
LOS ANGELES TIMES
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the man who conceived and directed the Sept. 11
terrorist attacks, was motivated by his strong disagreement with American
sup****t for Israel, said the final re****t of the Sept. 11 commission.
Mohammed conceived the initial outline of the attack six years before its
execution and brought the plan to al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden because
he
thought he did not have the resources to carry it out on his own.
The Sept. 11 re****t contains the fullest accounting of Mohammed's
overarching
role from original conception to supervision of details. Bin Laden, too,
was
fully involved, selecting all or most of the participants, ordering the
substance and the location of their training, and contributing to the
timing
of the attacks and the selection of targets, the re****t says.
The re****t makes a strong case that al-Qaida accomplished the attacks
without
any hint of state sponsor****p. The re****t also appears to lay to rest the
notion, long alluded to by administration officials including Vice
President
Dick Cheney, that hijacker Mohamed Atta traveled to the Czech Republic to
meet
an Iraqi intelligence operative in the spring of 2001.
In addition to repeating evidence that Atta was in the United States at
the
time, the re****t revealed that the Iraqi agent was not in Prague either
when
the meeting was alleged to have occurred.
Much of the re****t's detail comes from interrogations of al-Qaida
operatives
in U.S. custody, including Mohammed and Ramzi Binal****bh. Some of that
information is contradictory; much of it is difficult to corroborate. One
CIA
analysis cited in the re****t, for example, is titled "Khalid Shaykh
Muhammed's
Threat Re****ting -- Precious Truths, Surrounded by a Bodyguard of Lies."
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'US sup****t for Israel spurred 9/11' (as mentioned by Mearsheimer and
Walt)
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1191257274889&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Video that gets to the Israel question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg
http://www.IRmep.org/jm.wmv
The Gorilla in the Room is US Sup****t for Israel
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/gorilla-in-room-is-us-sup****t-for.html
SCANDAL: 9/11 Commissioners Bowed to Pressure to Suppress Main Motive for
the
9/11 Attacks:
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/09/reviews-of-without-precedent-inside.html
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/07/why-declare-jihad-against-us_10.html
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/09/no-other-motivation-no-other.html
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/05/dishonesty-about-911-motives-robs.html
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/07/msms-continuing-game-serving-israel.html
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/08/cnn-continues-to-downplay-and-omit.html
Tom Murphy of http://representativepress.blogspot.com
wrote the following:
the MAIN reason for the 9/11 attacks (and the 93 attack) was US sup****t
for
Israel. And we know that 9/11 commissioners purposefully downplayed the
role
US sup****t for Israel had because they didn't want the public to re*****s
the
policy. This has been admitted to!
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/09/reviews-of-without-precedent-inside.html
Bruce Feiler quotes from the 9/11 Commission re****t where it references
(see
the footnote to that section of the 9/11 Re****t) the "letter to the
American
people." In fact, I believe the 9/11 Commission were so willing to
downplay
foreign policy that the simply accepted an Internet letter as if it was
real
and I don't think any intelligence agency has authenticated it (and it is
just
text, not audio or video so authenticating it would be difficult to say
the
least). Remember we have years of audio and video from bin Laden BEFORE
AND
AFTER THIS LETTER which are consistent and then this "letter to the
American
people" stands out as being different and it is this letter which the 9/11
Commission was happy to point to make their claim that "Bin Ladin's
grievance
with the United States may have started in reaction to specific U.S.
policies
but it quickly became far deeper."
First of all, the letter popped up on the Internet a year after 9/11 and
years
after bin Laden has made consistent statements, so how "quickly" did bin
Laden's grievances supposedly change? But like I said, it probably that
letter
even real. Jason Burke, in his book al Qaeda (described as "the most
reliable
and perceptive guide to the rise of militant Islam yet published") says
this
about the pur****ted "letter from bin Laden": "There is some doubt over
whether
the letter is actually the work of bin Laden himself. There are several
Qur'anic references in it that are erroneous, mistakes bin Laden would be
unlikely to make." p295
There are other odd things with the letter, a strange intro to the letter
that
acts like the motives have not been stated before. And the thing about
Clinton
is really odd.
I go into detail at this link":
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2004/09/911-motives-and-911-commission-re****t.html
Osama bin Laden Has Been Angry About U.S. Sup****t of Israel for Decades
In 1984, Jamal Ismail met Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden was 27 at the time
and he
made it clear even then that he didn't like U.S. sup****t of Israel. Ismail
said that bin Laden did not talk much but he did know how bin Laden felt
about
U.S. sup****t of Israel: "I knew from the beginning that [bin Laden] was
not
willing to drink any soft drinks from American companies, Pepsi,
Coca-Cola,
Sprite, 7-Up. He was trying to boycott all American products because he
believed that without Americans, Israel cannot exist." p39 The Osama Bin
Laden
I Know: An Oral History of al Qaeda's Leader Peter Bergen
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/08/osama-bin-laden-has-been-angry-about.html
And as you know, bin Laden is just one man and could not do it all by
himself.
If we look at the motivation of all those involved, including the top
people,
we see that the MAIN motive was US sup****t of Israel. And that motive is
the
overarching motive beyond even guys who are so called "fundamentalists" .
We
know that Yousef's letter wasn't even religious in the content.
Abdulaziz Alomari, one of the hijackers aboard Flight 11 with Mohammed
Atta,
said in his video will, "My work is a message those who heard me and to
all
those who saw me at the same time it is a message to the infidels that you
should leave the Arabian peninsula defeated and stop giving a hand of help
to
the coward Jews in Palestine." Ahmed Al Haznawi, a hijacker aboard Flight
93,
said in his video will, "Here is Palestine for more than a half-century,
its
wound has continued to bleed.
In March of 2002, MSNBC aired "The Making of the Death Pilots." In that
do***entary, German friend Ralph Bodenstein who traveled, worked and
talked a
lot with Mohammed Atta. Ralph said, "He (Atta) was most imbued actually
about
Israeli politics in the region and about US protection of these Israeli
politics in the region. And he was to a degree personally suffering from
that."
A former member of an extremist Islamic organization which is part of
al-Qaeda
explained how the organization's recruiters operate on susceptible young
men.
"Someone approached me in the mosque as I was praying, and started to talk
to
me about injustice in the Middle East, the poverty, our impotence in the
face
of Israel. He made me want to listen to him - to find a solution. At first
these people don't talk about violence. They concentrate on how much
injustice
America has caused in the world and how to get rid of this unfairness.
They
mention Palestine, they call on you to uphold your national dignity, to
defend
people, and suggest for that you must sacrifice yourself. Then your people
will live after you and will always remember you." The young man, himself
an
Egyptian, speaking in the privacy of a quite courtyard in Cairo, believed
this
was the way Mohamed Atta was approached. "Al-Qaeda" by Jane Corbin p125
In spite of the impression one may get from US mainstream media, for
decades
Israel has been brutalizing people because of their religion and the US
backs
these crimes. It isn't odd at all to see that this would motivate people
to
lash out at the backer of hideous crimes.
Also, money backing Egypt is really another expense serving Israel's
agenda.
Feilers is being disengenous about the money given to Egypt. He doesn't
know
the background on why that money is given to Egypt in the first place?!?
"There are many other costs of Israel to U.S. taxpayers, such as most or
all
of the $45.6 billion in U.S. foreign aid to Egypt since Egypt made peace
with
Israel in 1979 (compared to $4.2 billion in U.S. aid to Egypt for the
preceding 26 years). U.S. foreign aid to Egypt, which is pegged at
two-thirds
of U.S. foreign aid to Israel, averages $2.2 billion per year." -
http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm
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Bruce Feiler (a reform Jew who is mentioned by Tom Murphy above)
interviewed
John Mearsheimer who co-wrote 'The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy'
(see
www.israellobbybook.com):
http://www.bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/7689
Additional on Mearsheimer and Walt:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=49800
Joel Kovel looks at the 'Israel Lobby':
http://representativepress.googlepages.com/Kovel.html
James Fallows on AIPAC:
http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/armenians_cubans_and_aipac.php
Olmert tells AIPAC: Early Iraq exit would destabilize entire Mideast
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/836374.html
Subject: Some URLs that provide a reality check for the 9/11 Conspiracy
theorists here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfK7SDWbOLw
WTC 7 was hit by WTC 1. WTC 7 was severely damaged on the south side of
the
building and was on fire for about 7 hours.
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/09/wtc-7-was-severely-damaged-on-south.html
False theories like "9/11 was a controlled demolition" undermine serious
efforts to get foreign policies addressed, for example, U.S. sup****t for
Israel:
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/gorilla-in-room-is-us-sup****t-for.html
http://www.representativepress.org/BowingDebunk***plosives.html
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/05/911-conspiracy-people-are-still-at-it.html
Jet Fuel Debunks 9/11 "Controlled Demolition" Theory
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2007/01/jet-fuel-debunks-911-controlled.html
pre-collapse bowing was seen by others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn96gG7biTI
Seymour Hersh: Jewish financiers backing Hilary Clinton to get US to
attack
Iran:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?p=391430#391430
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The Israel Lobby and the Psychology of Influence:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=81068
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White Man's Burden:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&contrassID=2&subContrassID=14&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
'US sup****t for Israel spurred 9/11'
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1191257274889&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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http://www.counterpunch.org/findley10162007.html
October 16, 2007
Follow the Leader
The Open Secret About the Israel Lobby
By PAUL FINDLEY
There is an open secret in Wa****ngton. I learned it well during my 22-year
tenure as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives. All members swear
to
serve the interests of the United States, but there is an unwritten and
overwhelming exception: The interests of one small foreign country almost
always trump U.S. interests. That nation of course is Israel.
Both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue give priority to Israel over America.
Those
on Capitol Hill are pre-primed to roar approval for Israeli actions
whether
right or wrong, instead of at least fussing first and then caving. The
White
House sometimes puts up a modest and ineffective show of resistance before
it
follows Israel's lead.
In 2002, President Bush publicly ordered Israeli prime minister Ariel
Sharon
to end a bloody, destructive rampage through the Palestinian West Bank. He
wilted just as publicly when he received curt word from Sharon that
Israeli
troops would not withdraw and would continue their military operations. A
few
days later President Bush invited Sharon to the White House where he
saluted
him as a "man of peace."
I had similar experiences in the House of Representatives. On several
occasions, colleagues told me privately that they admired what I was
trying to
do in Middle East policy reform but could not risk pro-Israel protest back
home by sup****ting my positions.
The pro-Israel lobby is not one organization orchestrating U.S. Middle
East
policy from a backroom in Wa****ngton. Nor is it entirely Jewish. It
consists
of scores of groups -- large and small -- that work at various levels. The
largest, most professional, and most effective is the American Israel
Public
Affairs Committee. Many pro-Israel lobby groups belong to the Christian
Right.
The recently released book, "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy,"
co-authored by distinguished professors John Mearsheimer of the University
of
Chicago and Stephen Walt of Harvard, offers hope for constructive change.
It
details the damage to U.S. national interests caused by the lobby for
Israel.
These brave professors render a great service to America, but their theme,
expressed in a published study paper a year ago, is already under heavy,
vitriolic attack.
They are unjustly accused of anti-Semitism, the ultimate instrument of
intimidation employed by the lobby. A common problem: Under pressure, the
Chicago Council on Global Affairs withdrew an invitation for the authors
to
speak about their book. Council president Marshall Bouton explained
ruefully
that the invitation posed "a political problem" and a need "to protect the
institution" from those who would be angry if the authors appeared.
I know what it is like to be targeted in this way. In the last years of my
long service in Congress, I spoke out, making many of the points now
presented
in the Mearsheimer- Walt book. In 1980, my opponent charged me with
anti-Semitism, and money poured into his campaign fund from every state in
the
Union. I prevailed that year but two years later lost by a narrow margin.
In
1984, Sen. Charles Percy, then chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee
and
an occasional critic of Israel, was defeated. Leaders of the Israel lobby
claimed credit for defeating both Percy and me, claims that strengthened
lobby
influence in the years that followed.
The result is that Members of Congress today loudly reward Israel as it
violates international law and peace agreements, lures America into costly
wars, and subjects millions of Palestinians under its rule to
apartheid-like
conditions because they are not Jewish.
It is time to call politicians to account for their undying allegiance to
a
foreign state. Let the Mearsheimer- Walt book be a clarion that bestirs
the
American people to political action and finally brings fundamental change
to
both Capitol Hill and the White House.
Citizen participation in public policy development is a hallmark of our
proud
democracy. But the pro-Israel groups subvert democracy when they engage in
smear campaigns that intimidate and silence critics. America badly needs a
civilized discussion of the damaging role of Israel in U.S. policy
formulation.
Paul Findley represented Illinois in the U.S. House of Representatives for
22
years. He is the author of They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions
Confront the Israel Lobby.
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http://www.israellobbybook.com/
Please check out this website.
"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" is #6 on the LA Times
Bestsellers
List of Books. It helps to explain how the US has incurred the wrath of
1.3
billion Muslims, and how we got into the war in Iraq.
Although it has been "Politically Incorrect" to discuss the Israeli Lobby
and
Israel, this book (as well as the book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" by
Jimmy Carter) have broken through this taboo. By breaking the silence, the
discussion, hopefully, will begin. The discussion needs to begin
immediately
as Israel and The Lobby are now urging a US attack on Iran.
Several days ago, retired General Abizaid (Commander of US Forces in the
Middle East) stated that Iran was not a "suicide nation" -- and that we
could
live with a nuclear Iran. He said that it wouldn't be desirable, but that
we
could "live with it".
Serious war gaming by the Rand Institute and retired Generals have
predicted
some very serious consequences if we attack Iran:
1. Increased deaths of American soldiers in Iraq. ****ites in Iraq, in
sympathy
with ****ites in Iran, would rise up against our soldiers in Iraq. Rumsfeld
was
against an attack on Iran because of the increased death toll to "his
boys" in
Iraq.
2. closure of the narrow (22miles wide) Straits of Hormuz, the ****pping
lane
where the majority of the world's oil flows -- resulting in huge increases
in
the price of oil which would result in a worldwide depression.
3. Iran, who helped us against the Taliban in Afghanistan, could cause big
trouble for our troops in Afghanistan, as well as Iraq. One "war gamer"
predicted that Iran could create a "bloody hell and defeat for US forces"
in
both countries with their million-man army.
Yet President Bush has stated (in the Chapter Iran in the Crosshairs),
"I'll
make it clear again, that we will use military might to protect our ally
Israel." I wonder if he will be sending his daughters to fight this
million
man Iranian army.
"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" will be a great help in
understanding how BOTH political parties got us into this confrontation
with
the Muslim world which comprises 1.3 billlion people in 57 countries. And
it
is not because they hate freedom.
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http://www.alternet.org/story/65271?page=entire
Breaking the Taboo: Why We Took On the Israel Lobby
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October 31, 2007
The Lobby, Unmasked
The Israel lobby: "We have an 'unwritten contract' with the American
media" :
by Justin Raimondo
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11837
This One is So Hot: The Censor****p of Mearsheimer and Walt:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=77212
U.S. Middle East policy motivated by pro-Israel lobby:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=49800
AIPAC and the Neocon (War for Israel) agenda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rf16XjbOUs
Israel's influence of US policy & the Israeli lobby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O125hGt9qt4&NR
Dutch do***entary about AIPAC:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17525.htm
"AIPAC is pu****ng us to war with Iran. AIPAC is the reason that no
Democrats
are coming out strongly against war with Iran. AIPAC's funding is
extremely
wealthy American Jews and AIPAC is pu****ng for war with Iran. So, when
people
go to Democratic politicians and they say "listen, I don't want you
gettin'
out in front and opposing war with Iran, particularly since you have
national
aspirations," they don't say it in the New York Times." - Eric Alterman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nch43wy8Zb8
High Cost of Subservience to Israel:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=75908
Obama to Convince AIPAC that he is a true friend of Israel:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=69025
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Mainstream Media, the 9/11 Commission Re****t, politicians and pundits have
all
downplayed and/or omitted the fact that the main motive for the 9/11
attacks
was outrage over U.S. sup****t of Israel. Here is a rare exception to the
suppression, it comes from The Forward (which is the respected Jewish
publication out of New York): "The disclosures seem to weaken Israeli
claims
that the issue was only a secondary priority for Osama bin Laden, and they
could rekindle the debate about whether U.S. sup****t for Israel is
hindering
national security."
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/12/outrage-over-us-sup****t-of-israel.html
A Disturbing Review of the 911 Linked Israeli Art Student Spy Ring
Scandal
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2002/05/07/students/index_np.html?pn=1
Forwarded:
Hey all -- for those who didn't bother with the subscriber-only version at
CounterPunch, my article (
http://www.counterpunch.org/ketcham03072007.html
)
on allegations of 9/11-related Israeli espionage, which I'm expanding into
a
book, has now been posted at the website. Check it out at
www.counterpunch.org
Also, I just did a radio interview with the great Meria Heller on this
same
topic. See
http://www.meria.net/2007/one-world-order-global-control/september-11-2001/meria-with-christopher-ketcham-israeli-connection-to-91101/
Cheers,
Chris Ketcham
www.christopherketcham.com
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Former Mossad operative (Ostrovsky) who wrote the 'By Way of Deception'
book
about the Mossad nails the dual loyality issue and use of the
'anti-Semite'
smear via the you tube video short URLs below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PnQ3iVaZE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXwuOAL5yEE
Anti-Semite label confines open debate:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=64817
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15896.htm
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Carter says Mearsheimer and Walt were right:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=63875
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From: "Jeffrey Blankfort"
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:44:28 -0800
Subject: LA Times: Carter: AIPAC's "extraordinary lobbying efforts"
"For the last 30 years, I have witnessed and experienced the severe
restraints
on any free and balanced discussion of the facts. This reluctance to
criticize
any policies of the Israeli government is because of the extraordinary
lobbying efforts of the American-Israel Political Action Committee and the
absence of any significant contrary voices."
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-oe-carter8dec08,1,5841111.story
Speaking frankly about Israel and Palestine
Jimmy Carter says his recent book is drawing knee-jerk accusations of
anti-Israel bias.
By Jimmy Carter
the 39th president of the United States. His newest book is "Palestine:
Peace
Not Apartheid," published last month. He is scheduled to sign books Monday
at
Vroman's in Pasadena.
December 8, 2006
I signed a contract with Simon & Schuster two years ago to write a book
about
the Middle East, based on my personal observations as the Carter Center
monitored three elections in Palestine and on my consultations with
Israeli
political leaders and peace activists.
We covered every Palestinian community in 1996, 2005 and 2006, when Yasser
Arafat and later Mahmoud Abbas were elected president and members of
parliament were chosen. The elections were almost flawless, and turnout
was
very high except in East Jerusalem, where, under severe Israeli
restraints,
only about 2% of registered voters managed to cast ballots.
The many controversial issues concerning Palestine and the path to peace
for
Israel are intensely debated among Israelis and throughout other nations
but
not in the United States. For the last 30 years, I have witnessed and
experienced the severe restraints on any free and balanced discussion of
the
facts. This reluctance to criticize any policies of the Israeli government
is
because of the extraordinary lobbying efforts of the American-Israel
Political
Action Committee and the absence of any significant contrary voices.
It would be almost politically suicidal for members of Congress to espouse
a
balanced position between Israel and Palestine, to suggest that Israel
comply
with international law or to speak in defense of justice or human rights
for
Palestinians. Very few would ever deign to visit the Palestinian cities of
Ramallah, Nablus, Hebron, Gaza City or even Bethlehem and talk to the
beleaguered residents. What is even more difficult to comprehend is why
the
editorial pages of the major newspapers and magazines in the United States
exercise similar self-restraint, quite contrary to private *****sments
expressed quite forcefully by their correspondents in the Holy Land.
With some degree of reluctance and some uncertainty about the reception my
book would receive, I used maps, text and do***ents to describe the
situation
accurately and to analyze the only possible path to peace: Israelis and
Palestinians living side by side within their own internationally
recognized
boundaries. These options are consistent with key U.N. resolutions
sup****ted
by the U.S. and Israel, official American policy since 1967, agreements
consummated by Israeli leaders and their governments in 1978 and 1993 (for
which they earned Nobel Peace Prizes), the Arab League's offer to
recognize
Israel in 2002 and the International Quartet's "Roadmap for Peace," which
has
been accepted by the PLO and largely rejected by Israel.
The book is devoted to cir***stances and events in Palestine and not in
Israel, where democracy prevails and citizens live together and are
legally
guaranteed equal status.
Although I have spent only a week or so on a book tour so far, it is
already
possible to judge public and media reaction. Sales are brisk, and I have
had
interesting interviews on TV, including "Larry King Live," "Hardball,"
"Meet
the Press," "The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," the "Charlie Rose" show,
C-SPAN
and others. But I have seen few news stories in major newspapers about
what I
have written.
Book reviews in the mainstream media have been written mostly by
representatives of Jewish organizations who would be unlikely to visit the
occupied territories, and their primary criticism is that the book is
anti-Israel. Two members of Congress have been publicly critical. Incoming
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for instance, issued a statement (before the
book
was published) saying that "he does not speak for the Democratic Party on
Israel." Some reviews posted on Amazon.com call me "anti-Semitic," and
others
accuse the book of "lies" and "distortions." A former Carter Center fellow
has
taken issue with it, and Alan Dershowitz called the book's title
"indecent."
Out in the real world, however, the response has been overwhelmingly
positive.
I've signed books in five stores, with more than 1,000 buyers at each
site.
I've had one negative remark that I should be tried for treason and
one
caller on C-SPAN said that I was an anti-Semite. My most troubling
experience
has been the rejection of my offers to speak, for free, about the book on
university campuses with high Jewish enrollment and to answer questions
from
students and professors. I have been most encouraged by prominent Jewish
citizens and members of Congress who have thanked me privately for
presenting
the facts and some new ideas.
The book describes the abominable oppression and persecution in the
occupied
Palestinian territories, with a rigid system of required p***** and strict
segregation between Palestine's citizens and Jewish settlers in the West
Bank.
An enormous imprisonment wall is now under construction, s****ing through
what
is left of Palestine to encompass more and more land for Israeli settlers.
In
many ways, this is more oppressive than what blacks lived under in South
Africa during apartheid. I have made it clear that the motivation is not
racism but the desire of a minority of Israelis to confiscate and colonize
choice sites in Palestine, and then to forcefully suppress any objections
from
the displaced citizens. Obviously, I condemn any acts of terrorism or
violence
against innocent civilians, and I present information about the terrible
casualties on both sides.
The ultimate purpose of my book is to present facts about the Middle East
that
are largely unknown in America, to precipitate discussion and to help
restart
peace talks (now absent for six years) that can lead to permanent peace
for
Israel and its neighbors. Another hope is that Jews and other Americans
who
share this same goal might be motivated to express their views, even
publicly,
and perhaps in concert. I would be glad to help with that effort.
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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-letters9.5dec09,1,2751557.story
LETTERS
He's got guts
December 9, 2006
JIMMY CARTER may be the most courageous public figure in America
["Carter's
Frontal Attack," by Josh Getlin, Dec. 4]. He has accurately described
media
coverage of the "Israel-Palestine" conflict as "abominable" and the U.S.
government's pro-Israel bias as unequivocal. It is the ultimate irony that
in
a country that prizes its open democracy, no politician of any party is
willing to risk his future by addressing this elephant in the room.
FRANCIS SARGUIS
Santa Barbara
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Caller asks President Carter about AIPAC and other pressure groups within
the
US.
President Carter reveals the intense pressures used to prevent public
discussion of the facts concerning Israel. He admits that some
Universities
have actually turned him away, telling him that discussing Israel was "too
controversial!":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBJgaBe5NgM
Carter answers a question about the paper "The Israel Lobby and U.S.
Foreign
Policy" by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt. Mearsheimer and Walt's
paper
discusses groups like AIPAC and the influence on the US political system
and
the sup****t of Israel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbapmPR0ZeQ
Carter Says Mearsheimer and Walt were right:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=63875
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/12/smears-against-carter.html
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/12/facts-are-even-worse-than-president.html
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From: BGJDAVID
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:55:33 EST
Subject: Carter stands by provocative book
A number of Jewish groups in the Atlanta area wrote a letter critical to
Jimmy
Carter that appeared in yesterday's Atlanta Journal Constitution'Peace not
Apartheid' stands as unfounded | ajc.com. It seems that Jimmy Carter will
not
give in, thank God, and the following appeared in today's edition of the
AJC.
Carter stands by provocative book
Despite criticism, the former president defends his description of
Israeli-Palestinian relations as apartheid.
By Ernie Suggs
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 12/09/06
From the comfort of the Carter Center, former President Jimmy Carter
blasted
his critics Friday and defended his latest book, "Palestine: Peace Not
Apartheid."
"I feel completely at ease," said Carter, about his commitment to the
book,
which accuses Israel of oppressing Palestinians. "I am not running for
office.
And I have Secret Service protection."
Carter, who negotiated the 1978 Camp David Peace Accords, which led to
Nobel
Peace Prizes for Egypt's Anwar Sadat and Israel's Menachem Begin, was only
half-joking.
"The greatest commitment in my life has been trying to bring peace to
Israel,"
Carter told the Atlanta Press Club. "Israel will never have peace until
they
agree to withdraw" from the occupied territories.
What was supposed to be a whirlwind book tour to promote his 21st book and
spark "discussion and debate about what is going on in the Holy Land" has
instead left Carter spending the bulk of his time defending the book,
especially his choice of the provocative word "apartheid" in the title.
Published by Simon & Schuster, the book follows the Israeli-Palestinian
peace
process from Carter's days in the White House to the present.
Blame placed on Israel
Carter, 82, places most of the blame for the conflict on Israel for
fostering
a type of apartheid that he said is worse in some cases than what blacks
saw
in South Africa. He criticizes the Bush administration for failing to
intervene and other American elected officials for not addressing Middle
East
issues for fear of being run out of office.
"It would be almost politically suicidal for members of Congress to
espouse a
balanced position between Israel and Palestine - to suggest that Israel
comply with international law or to speak in defense of justice or human
rights for Palestinians," Carter said.
He also criticized the American media for ignoring Israel's role in the
stalemate.
"I would just like the news media and the op-ed pages to publicize it,"
said
Carter. He said several major newspapers refused to write about his book,
until it became controversial.
Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League and
author
of "Never Again? The Threat of the New Anti-Semitism," is demanding an
apology
from Carter. He said comments from the former president - particularly
implications of his comments about the media - border on anti-Semitism.
"When you think about the charge that he has made that the Jewish people
control the means of communication, it is odious," Foxman said. "If the
Jews
controlled the media, how come he is traveling around the country speaking
about this book on talk shows?"
Carter defends the use of the word apartheid, which is closely associated
with
racial brutality in South Africa. He said his use of the term refers to
Israeli policies on the acquisition of Palestinian land and the erection
of a
separating wall that has divided Palestinian areas and destroyed homes and
ancient olive trees.
"Anybody that goes there can't deny that a system of apartheid is going
on,"
Carter said. "It is not racism-based. It is a small number of Israelis who
believe they have the right to confiscate and colonize Palestinian land.
And
to dominate, isolate and persecute any Palestinian who objects."
Joseph Parko, a volunteer with the American Friends Service Committee, a
Quaker relief organization, said he recently spent more than two weeks in
the
region.
"The conditions I saw there were exactly what the president wrote about,"
Parko said. "Apartheid is an accurate term to describe the situation."
Jewish leaders upset
But Jewish groups - including the American Jewish Committee and the
Jewish
Federation of Greater Atlanta - have ripped the book and incoming House
Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said Carter does not speak for the Democratic
Party.
Foxman, who said he once bumped into Carter in Jerusalem, said Jewish
reaction
has gone from disappointment to anger.
"We are disappointed in a sense that one expects more fairness from a
former
president. One expects a lot more sophistication," Foxman said. "We are
angry
because there is a bias. Not only an ignorance of the issues, but a bias."
But Carter, who won a Nobel Peace Prize in 2002, said at least eight
Jewish
groups - devoted to promoting peace in the Middle East - have called him
to
praise the book.
The staunchest critic has been Kenneth Stein, the Carter Center's first
executive director and a professor at Emory University. Although not
officially involved with the Carter Center for more than a decade, Stein
was
still listed as a Middle Eastern Fellow at the center before the book was
published. He made a public break from Carter earlier this week, claiming
the
book was full of errors.
Carter told the Press Club that since 1996 he has monitored three
elections in
the region and has visited both Israel and the Palestinian territories
many
times.
"We know what is going on," Carter said. "That is my credentials for
writing
this book. It was not just superficial observance from a distance."
Find this article at:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2006/12/09/metcarter1209a.html
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http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/12/thomas-friedman-is-truly-one-of-most.html
Chris Hedges: Bring Down that Wall:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=63615
U.S. vetoes U.N. resolution condemning Israel on Gaza:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=63081
AIPAC and the Neocon (War for Israel) agenda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rf16XjbOUs
The Power of Israel in the United States:
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article15494.htm
Nancy Pelosi and Israel
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=646
The Video Pelosi and AIPAC Don't Want You to See
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=653
U.S. vetoes U.N. resolution condemning Israel on Gaza (such unconditional
sup****t of Israel generated the intense hatred against America in the
Arab/Muslim world which resulted in the tragic attacks on the World Trade
Center in 1993 and on 9/11 - read pages 97-101 and pages 137-144 of James
Bamford's 'A Pretext for War' book for more about such):
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=63081
Pro-Israeli Manipulation of the U.S. Media
http://www.investigate911.com/manipulators.htm
Israeli war criminal use of US cluster bombs
Israeli war criminal use of US made cluster bombs - no surprise why the US
has
a terror problem because of its relentless sup****t for the rogue state of
Israel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxdXZX2jVs
CNN's Wolf Blitzer versus David Duke - video on YouTube.Com:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v2f-WC4cjo
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/09/reviews-of-without-precedent-inside.html
From a year ago...
CIA analysts Kathleen and Bill Christison have described how "two
strains of
Jewish and Christian fundamentalism have dovetailed into an agenda for
a
vast imperial project to restructure the Middle East, all further
reinforced
by the happy coincidence of great oil resources up for grabs and a
president
and vice-president heavily invested in oil."
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>> The Unmentionable Source of Terrorism
>>
>> by John Pilger
>>
>> The current threat of attacks in countries whose governments
>> have close alliances with Wa****ngton is the latest stage in a
>> long struggle against the empires of the west, their rapacious
>> crusades and domination. The motivation of those who plant
>> bombs in railway carriages derives directly from this truth.
>> What is different today is that the weak have learned how to
>> attack the strong, and the western crusaders' most recent
>> colonial terrorism (as many as 55,000 Iraqis killed) exposes
>> "us" to retaliation.
>>
>> The source of much of this danger is Israel. A creation, then
>> guardian of the west's empire in the Middle East, the Zionist
>> state remains the cause of more regional grievance and sheer
>> terror than all the Muslim states combined. Read the melancholy
>> Palestinian Monitor on the Internet; it chronicles the equivalent
>> of Madrid's horror week after week, month after month, in occupied
>> Palestine. No front pages in the West acknowledge this enduring
>> bloodbath, let alone mourn its victims. Moreover, the Israeli army,
>> a terrorist organisation by any reasonable measure, is protected
>> and rewarded in the west.
>>
>> In its current human rights re****t, the Foreign Office criticises
>> Israel for its "worrying disregard for human rights" and "the impact
>> that the continuing Israeli occupation and the associated military
>> occupations have had on the lives of ordinary Palestinians."
>>
>> Yet the Blair government has secretly authorised the sale of vast
>> quantities of arms and terror equipment to Israel. These include
>> leg-irons, electric shock belts and chemical and biological agents.
>> No matter that Israel has defied more United Nations resolutions than
>> any other state since the founding of the world body. Last October,
>> the UN General Assembly voted by 144 to four to condemn the wall
>> that Israel has cut through the heart of the West Bank, annexing the
>> best agricultural land, including the aquifer system that provides
>> most of the Palestinians' water. Israel, as usual, ignored the world.
>>
>> Israel is the guard dog of America's plans for the Middle East. The
>> former CIA analysts Kathleen and Bill Christison have described how
>> "two strains of Jewish and Christian fundamentalism have dovetailed
>> into an agenda for a vast imperial project to restructure the Middle
East,
>> all further reinforced by the happy coincidence of great oil resources
>> up for grabs and a president and vice-president heavily invested in
oil."
>>
>> The "neoconservatives" who run the Bush regime all have close ties
>> with the Likud government in Tel Aviv and the Zionist lobby groups
>> in Wa****ngton. In 1997, the Jewish Institute for National Security
Affairs
>> (Jinsa) declared:
>> "Jinsa has been working closely with Iraqi National Council leader
>> Dr Ahmad Chalabi to promote Saddam Hussein's removal from office..."
>> Chalabi is the CIA-backed stooge and convicted embezzler at present
>> organising the next "democratic" government in Baghdad.
>>
>> Until recently, a group of Zionists ran their own intelligence service
>> inside the Pentagon. This was known as the Office of Special Plans,
>> and was overseen by Douglas Feith, an under-secretary of defence,
>> extreme Zionist and opponent of any negotiated peace with the
>> Palestinians. It was the Office of Special Plans that supplied Downing
>> Street with much of its scuttlebutt about Iraq's weapons of mass
>> destruction; more often than not, the original source was Israel.
>>
>> Israel can also claim responsibility for the law passed by Congress
>> that imposes sanctions on Syria and in effect threatens it with the
>> same fate as Iraq unless it agrees to the demands of Tel Aviv. Israel
>> is the guiding hand behind Bush's bellicose campaign against the
>> "nuclear threat" posed by Iran. Today, in occupied Iraq, Israeli
>> special forces are teaching the Americans how to "wall in" a hostile
>> population, in the same way that Israel has walled in the Palestinians
>> in pursuit of the Zionist dream of an apartheid state. The author
>> David Hirst describes the "Israelisation of US foreign policy" as
>> being "now operational as well as ideological."
>>
>> In understanding Israel's enduring colonial role in the Middle East,
>> it is too simple to see the outrages of Ariel Sharon as an aberrant
>> version of a democracy that lost its way. The myths that abound in
>> middle-class Jewish homes in Britain about Israel's heroic, noble
>> birth have long been reinforced by a "liberal" or "left-wing" Zionism
>> as virulent and essentially destructive as the Likud strain.
>>
>> In recent years, the truth has come from Israel's own "new
>> historians," who have revealed that the Zionist "idealists" of 1948
>> had no intention of treating justly or even humanely the Palestinians,
>> who instead were systematically and often murderously driven from
>> their homes. The most courageous of these historians is Ilan Pappe,
>> an Israeli-born professor at Haifa University, who, with the
publication
>> of each of his ground-breaking books, has been both acclaimed and
>> smeared. The latest is A History of Modern Palestine, in which he
>> do***ents the expulsion of Palestinians as an orchestrated crime
>> of ethnic cleansing that tore apart Jews and Arabs coexisting
>> peacefully. As for the modern "peace process," he describes the
>> Oslo Accords of 1993 as a plan by liberal Zionists in the Israeli
>> Labour Party to corral Palestinians in South African-style bantustans.
>> That they were aided by a desperate Palestinian leader****p made
>> the "peace" and its "failure" (blamed on the Palestinians) no less
>> counterfeit. During the years of negotiation and raised hopes,
>> governments in Tel Aviv secretly doubled the number of illegal
>> Jewish settlements on Palestinian land, intensified the military
>> occupation and completed the fragmentation of the 22 per cent of
>> historic Palestine that the Palestine Liberation Organisation had
>> agreed to accept in return for recognising the state of Israel.
>>
>> Along with the late Edward Said, Ilan Pappe is the most eloquent
>> writer of Palestinian history. He is also one of the most scholarly.
>> This combination has brought him many admirers, but also enemies
>> among Israel's academic liberal mythologists in Britain, one of whom,
>> Stephen Howe, was given the Pappe book to review in the New
>> Statesman of 8 March. Howe often appears in these pages; his
>> style is to damn with faint praise and to set carefully the limits
>> of debate about empire, be it Irish history, the Middle East or the
>> "war on terror." In Pappe's case, what the reader doesn't know is
>> Howe's personal link to the Israeli establishment; and what Howe
>> does not say in his review is that here for the first time is a
textbook
>> on Palestine that narrates the real story as it happened: a non-Zionist
>> version of Zionism.
>>
>> He accuses Pappe of "factual mistakes," but gives no evidence, then
>> denigrates the book by dismissing it as a footnote to another book
>> by the Israeli historian Benny Morris, who has long atoned for his
>> own revisionist work. To its credit, Cambridge University Press has
>> published Pappe's pioneering and highly accessible work as an
>> authoritative history. This means that the "debate" over Israel's
>> origins is ending, regardless of what the empire's apologists say.
>>
>>
>> ------ End of Forwarded Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdRL0doyn4I
9 / 1 1 L i n k s:
http://www.investigate911.com/israel911.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/yestheydid.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/manipulators.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/911motives.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/911commissionre****t.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/why_do_they_want_to_kill_us.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/911scandal.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/911tapes.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/inourgov.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/binladen.htm
http://www.investigate911.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAdi9bQaGmc&mode=related&search
Why Do They Hate Us?
by Jacob G. Hornberger, August 9, 2006
http://www.lewrockwell.com/hornberger/hornberger97.html
Ex-Iranian leader blames Bush policies for terrorism
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/09/04/iran.khatami/index.html
"What is the core problem which motivated the 9/11 attacks? What is
fueling
this terrorism?" with answer "U.S. foreign policies of sup****ting Israel,
sup****ting other repressive regimes and now the war in Iraq, fuel
terrorism.":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT-qqrBWHF4
bin Laden :
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/08/osama-bin-laden-has-been-angry-about.html
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/08/one-of-bin-ladens-aims-stop-sup****t-of.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/interview.html
http://www.corvuswire.com/binladen.htm
Brit Respect MP George Galloway describes Hezbollah resistance on Sky TV:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html
ABC NEWS OMITS Mention of AMERICA and ISRAEL
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/07/london-bombers-motives.html
Here's George Galloway, an Irishman living in England who speaks very
intensely about the pro-Israeli bias in the media.
Too bad our American-Zionist media won't allow an anti-Israel speaker such
as
Galloway on their precious pro-Israeli programs.
Every American should see this:
This Windows Media Player video is about 20 megs.....
http://www.corvuswire.com/speak_out_against_israel.htm
Israel's attack on Lebanon resulted in 9/11:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=55993
Scroll down to the 'Pro-Israel lobby under attack' UPI article at the
following message thread URL:
U.S. Middle East policy motivated by pro-Israel lobby:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=49800
'Why Do They Hate US?':
http://amconmag.com/2006/2006_06_05/buchanan.html
Why Do They Want to Kill US?
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=57806
Death on the beach: seven Palestinians killed as Israeli shells hit family
picnic
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1794432,00.html
The Gaza Beach Party Massacre
Israel bombs beach-goers and re-invades Gaza - because they can
by Justin Raimondo
http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=9224
Even Chalmers Johnson (author of 'Blowback' and 'The Sorrows of Empire')
mentioned during the 'Q & A' program on C-SPAN that we were attacked on
9/11
because of sup****t for what Israel does to the Palestinians:
http://www.q-and-a.org/Program/?ProgramID=1079
Facts the "9/11 Skeptics" don't want you to see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGAoRrBoPRM
and here is it's tiny url:
http://tinyurl.com/ftx9h
A Warning to Those Who Dare to Criticize Israel in the U.S.
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=55228
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em1RNLSi4rk
Here is the tiny URL:
http://tinyurl.com/mnoej
The day after the next 9/11 our freedoms are gone :
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13540.htm
How to prevent another 9/11:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=48360
Jimmy Carter: Puni****ng the innocent is a crime :
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12965.htm
Israel's new plan: A land grab:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-05-15-carter-israel-edit_x.htm
http://www.representativepress.org/BowingDebunk***plosives.html
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/05/griffin-is-simply-wrong.html
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590
http://www.9-11pdp.org/ua/2005-08-02.htm
(click on the transcript PDF link
and
scroll down to the 'Q & A' session)
http://www.9-11pdp.org/press/2005-08-02_pr.pdf
9/11 because of US sup****t for Israel:
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=51080
Just saw the following at http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
as well:
Who said it wasn't Israel?? :
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=47504
Motive for Iraq invasion:
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/09/motives-for-war-on-iraq-andrea.html
Former editor of Los Angeles wrote that Iraq war was/is for Israel:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=41524
NEXT STOP: SYRIA AND IRAN (which will be for Israel as well):
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=41593
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/RecentNews.htm
htt
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War (for Israel) price on U.S. lives equal to 9/11
By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Now the death toll is 9/11 times two. U.S. military deaths from Iraq and
Afghanistan now surpass those of the most devastating terrorist attack in
America's history, the trigger for what came next.
The latest milestone for a country at war came Friday without
commemoration.
It came without the precision of knowing who was the 2,974th to die in
conflict. The terrorist attacks killed 2,973 victims in New York,
Wa****ngton
and Pennsylvania.
An Associated Press count of the U.S. death toll in Iraq rose to 2,696.
Combined with 278 U.S. deaths in and around Afghanistan, the 9/11 toll was
reached, then topped, the same day. The Pentagon re****ted Friday the
latest
death from Iraq, an as-yet unidentified soldier killed a day earlier after
his
vehicle was hit by a roadside bombing in eastern Baghdad.
Not for the first time, war that was started to answer death has resulted
in
at least as much death for the country that was first attacked, quite
apart
from the higher numbers of enemy and civilians killed.
Historians note that this grim accounting is not how the success or
failure of
warfare is measured, and that the reasons for conflict are broader than
what
served as the spark.
The body count from World War II was far higher for Allied troops than for
the
crushed Axis. Americans lost more men in each of a succession of Pacific
battles than the 2,390 people who died at Pearl Harbor in the attack that
made
the U.S. declare war on Japan. The U.S. lost 405,399 in the theaters of
World
War II.
Despite a death toll that pales next to that of the great wars, one
casualty
milestone after another has been observed and reflected upon this time,
especially in Iraq.
There was the benchmark of seeing more U.S. troops die in the occupation
than
in the swift and successful invasion. And the benchmarks of 1,000 dead,
2,000,
2,500.
Now this.
"There's never a good war but if the war's going well and the overall
mission
remains powerful, these numbers are not what people are focusing on," said
Julian Zelizer, a political historian at Boston University. "If this
becomes
the subject, then something's gone wrong."
Beyond the tribulations of the moment and the now-rampant doubts about the
justification and course of the Iraq war, Zelizer said Americans have lost
firsthand knowledge of the costs of war that existed keenly up to the
1960s,
when people remembered two world wars and Korea, and faced Vietnam.
"A kind of numbness comes from that," he said. "We're not that country
anymore
more bothered, more nervous. This isn't a country that's used to ground
wars
anymore."
Almost 10 times more Americans have died in Iraq than in Afghanistan,
where
U.S. casualties have been remarkably light by any historical standard,
although climbing in recent months in the face of a resurgent Taliban.
The Pentagon re****ts 56 military deaths and one civilian Defense
Department
death in other parts of the world from Operation Enduring Freedom, the
anti-terrorism war distinct from Iraq.
Altogether, 3,031 have died abroad since Sept. 11, 2001.
The toll among Iraqi civilians hit a record high in the summer, with 6,599
violent deaths re****ted in July and August alone, the United Nations said
this
week.
Among the latest U.S. deaths identified by the armed forces:
_Army 2nd Lt. Emily J.T. Perez, 23, Fort Wa****ngton, Md., who died Sept.
12 in
Kifl, Iraq, from an explosive device detonated near her vehicle. A former
high
school sprinter who sang in her West Point gospel choir, she was assigned
to
the 204th Sup****t Battalion, 2nd Brigade, 4th Infantry Division, Fort
Hood,
Texas.
_Marine Sgt. Christopher M. Zimmerman, 28, Stephenville, Texas, killed
Wednesday in Anbar province, Iraq. He was assigned to 2nd Reconnaissance
Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp
Lejeune,
N.C.
A new study on the war dead and where they come from suggests that the
notion
of "rich man's war, poor man's fight" has become a little truer over time.
Among the Americans killed in the Iraq war, 34 percent have come from
communities re****ting the lowest levels of family income. Half come from
middle income communities and only 17 percent from the highest income
level.
That's a change from World War II, when all income groups were represented
about equally. In Korea, Vietnam and Iraq, the poor have made up a
progressively larger share of casualties, by this analysis.
Eye-for-an-eye vengeance was not the sole motivator for what happened
after
the 2001 attacks any more than Pearl Harbor alone was responsible for all
that
followed. But Pearl Harbor caught the U.S. in the middle of mobilization,
debate, rising tensions with looming enemies and a European war already in
progress. Historians doubt anyone paid much attention to sad milestones
once
America threw itself into the fight.
In contrast, the United States had no imminent war intentions against
anyone
on Sept. 10, 2001. One bloody day later, it did.
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Here is a link from www.irmep.org which will take you directly to the
comments
which are in transcript form via the URL which initiates this message
thread:
http://www.IRmep.org/jm.wmv
The broadcast is also linked at the top of the following URL:
http://c-span.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=Meeting+of+9%2F11+Public+&image1.x=21&image1.y=17
The earlier comments made to Lee Hamilton on C-SPAN's 'Wa****ngton Journal'
are
in the segment linked at the top of the following URL:
http://www.c-span.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=lee+hamilton&image1.x=22&image1.y=6
Simply go to www.c-span.org and search for Lee Hamilton and then do
another
search for Meeting of 9/11 Public Discourse Project: Foreign Policy in
Mideast
in order to get to the broadcasts linked above if the above URLs no longer
go
through in time.
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Media Begins To Take Notice
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