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Re: Biofuels don't have to cause phosphorus shortage or erode topsoil

by GALWAYCITY@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 23, 2008 at 12:20 PM

I am glad that everyone is taking time to get involved. This helps
drive innovation but please make a distinction when you speak about
biofuels. Are you talking about biodiesel, corn ethanol, ceetol, and
which production method are you referring to? Which harvesting of
crops are you referring to? Are you referring to the production of
ceetol from waste biomass like food newspapers etc? There are many
different types. On a monthly basis, new technology is emerging which
will bring biofuels to the forefront of a massive green consumer
driven revolution. Are you aware for instance that a new bacterium has
been located by scientists in both Ireland and the U.S. that break
down any waste material containing cellulose - trash, waste food waste
grass clippings - the list is endless - it converts them directly to
ethanol - directly!! We don't even have to talk about ethanol from
crops, we are talking municiple waste - straight into ethanol within
hours- not days weeks or years. Simple! One day you will make ethanol
in your home. I have made it in mine - 190 proof using different
methods. I have no science degree, failed chemistry (hated it anyway).
I'm just an average person. When an average person can do it. It can
be mass produced on a local level. The implications are enormous. It
is going to happen, the problem is when. If the American people keep
reading articles with bad info they will remain in the dark. Do you
know that America is the only country in the world where there is a
debate regarding global warming! Apparently it's become a partizen
issue. Chances are if you are democratic you believe. If you are
republican you don't. Don't you think this is strange. Do you want to
see the chineese outpacing America in regards to energy innovation?
Brazil, a third world country, already has. Let's educate ourselves as
much as we can, and make this work. The Middle East has already grown
rich from our trillions of dollars - look at Dubai !! It's built with
American money while our kids are choking Asmatics! Let's do it
people!! The internet is going to bring this technology to the
forefront because of people like us making noise. We can make it
happen, we can make this country strong!! (I'm not even an American
and I'm fully behind this initiative but against large cor****ations
sucking your pockets dry - I live here too!!) so commonnnnn!!!!!
Where's that good old American pride - DEMAND clean energy from YOUR
politicans. For anyone who is interested the bacterium is called
Saccharophagus degradans - cut and paste it into your browser.

calderhome@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> Scientists warn of lack of vital phosphorus as biofuels raise demand
>
> "Crop-based biofuels, whose production methods and usage suck
> phosphorus out of the agricultural system in unprecedented volumes,
> have, researchers in Brazil say, made the problem many times worse."
>
> SEE STORY -
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article4193017.ece
> _________________________________
>
> Some 1.5 Bln People May Starve Due to Land Erosion - FAO
>
> "MILAN - Rising land degradation reduces crop yields and may threaten
> food security of about a quarter of the world' population, the United
> Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) said on Wednesday"
>
> Wasting cropland growing biofuels just speeds land erosion!  We are
> doing without thinking!
> ________________________________
>
> For more biofuel disaster news, SEE
http://home.att.net/~meditation/biofuel-news.html
>
> For the full biofuel disaster story, and better alternatives, SEE
> http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html
>
> Christopher Calder
 




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GALWAYCITY@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 12:20:24 
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