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Re: Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )

by "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 27, 2008 at 09:00 AM

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>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.rense.com/general82/jaj.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jews Against Jesus
>>>>>> By Harmony Grant
>>>>>> 7-22-8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Liberal Jewish leaders are among the loudest defenders of "civil 
>>>>>> rights" and
>>>>>> "freedom from defamation." Yet their so-called "anti-hate" laws 
>>>>>> represent the
>>>>>> scariest threat to Christian freedom in America. And the Jewish
state 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Israel is anything but free for Jews who convert to Christianity. 
>>>>>> Messianic
>>>>>> Jews face stiff opposition both in Israel and the United States
from 
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> Talmud-following brethren.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Talmud teaches that wor****p of Christ is idolatry; many Jews 
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>> conversion of Jews threatens a spiritual Holocaust upon the Jewish 
>>>>>> people. In
>>>>>> Israel and the United States, powerful Jews teach that it is an 
>>>>>> assault to
>>>>>> lead a precious Jewish soul toward truth about Jesus. Conversion of

>>>>>> Jews
>>>>>> represents theft and even spiritual "genocide."
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> First lie: Yeshua never asked ANYONE to wor****p HIMSELF.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jewish opposition compelled the Christian Jews of the Union of 
>>>>>> Messianic
>>>>>> Jewish Congregations (UMJC) to focus on discrimination against
their 
>>>>>> Israeli
>>>>>> brethren at a June conference in Jerusalem. About 300 Jewish 
>>>>>> believers in
>>>>>> Christ gathered to protest discrimination in Israel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The UMJC conference's discussed topics including "the recent public

>>>>>> burning by
>>>>>> haredim of New Testaments distributed by missionaries in Or Akiva,
a 
>>>>>> bomb
>>>>>> attack that seriously wounded the son of well-known Messianic Jew
in 
>>>>>> Ariel and
>>>>>> the attempt to disqualify a Messianic Jewish high school girl from 
>>>>>> this year's
>>>>>> International Bible Quiz for Jewish youth."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, gentile evangelicals remain oblivious, or uncaring,
about
>>>>>> persecution against their fellow Christians. They continue to
lavish 
>>>>>> financial
>>>>>> and moral sup****t on Israel, despite its continuing, blatant
>>>>>> anti-Christianity. Recently a young Christian Jewish woman was
denied
>>>>>> citizen****p in Israel because she allegedly "committed missionary 
>>>>>> activity,"
>>>>>> thus "acting against the interests of the state of Israel and
against 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Jewish people." Another Christian, a grad student from Germany,
even 
>>>>>> now
>>>>>> battles the government of Israel, which is trying to de****t her for

>>>>>> the
>>>>>> "speech crime" of witnessing. (See,
>>>>>>
<http://truthtellers.org/alerts/christiande****tedfromisreal.htm>Christian
>>>>>> De****ted From Israel )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A recent Associated Press article described how Christians Jews in 
>>>>>> Israel face
>>>>>> persecution and violence. It quotes Rabbi David Rosen, head of 
>>>>>> interfaith
>>>>>> affairs for the powerful American Jewish Committee. Rosen defends 
>>>>>> Israel's
>>>>>> anti-Christian policies. He is a powerful American Jewish leader
and 
>>>>>> this is
>>>>>> his description of America's dominant faith, a faith that created
the 
>>>>>> freedoms
>>>>>> of our nation- "Historically the core of Christianity ... was 
>>>>>> 'convert or
>>>>>> die,' so it was seen and is still seen as an assault on Jewish 
>>>>>> existence
>>>>>> itselfWhen you are called to join another religion, you are being 
>>>>>> called on to
>>>>>> betray your people."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This slander against Christianity demonizes two millennia of faith.

>>>>>> It is
>>>>>> shocking that the head of interfaith for the AJC, an organization
the 
>>>>>> New York
>>>>>> Times calls the "dean of American Jewish organizations," should 
>>>>>> describe
>>>>>> Christians as preaching "convert or die." While such coercion did 
>>>>>> exist during
>>>>>> the Catholic Inquisition, this is a gross mischaracterization of
two 
>>>>>> millennia
>>>>>> of authentic Christianity-a period in which Christians have done
more 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> advance human happiness than any other group. Christians preserved 
>>>>>> learning in
>>>>>> the Dark Ages, built the world's freest nation, founded thousands
of
>>>>>> universities and schools in poor countries, militated against
slavery 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> other sins, and spread Christ's gospel of self-denying love. It is 
>>>>>> also deeply
>>>>>> troubling that this powerful Jew describes personal religious 
>>>>>> decisions as
>>>>>> ethnic or national betrayal. What kind of civil liberties can he 
>>>>>> sup****t if he
>>>>>> believes Jewish individuals are guilty of treason if their 
>>>>>> consciences lead
>>>>>> them to a religious conversion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rabbi's troubling words won't shock anyone, however, who knows 
>>>>>> hard-line
>>>>>> Judaism's teachings about Christ. Talmud-believing, Orthodox and
>>>>>> ultra-Orthodox Jews are taught to hate and despise Christ, the
"false 
>>>>>> prophet"
>>>>>> who lured millions into idolatry. (See, U.S. Government, Talmud
Mock 
>>>>>> New
>>>>>> Testament) One British rabbi put it this way when asked about the 
>>>>>> witness of
>>>>>> Messianic Jews: "We have rejected, do reject and always will reject

>>>>>> what they
>>>>>> are saying. To target Jews, I see it as antisemitic."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such animosity is very alive in Israel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Calev Myers, a lawyer who represents Messianic Jews [in Israel], 
>>>>>> said he has
>>>>>> fought 200 legal cases in the past two years," re****ts the
Associated 
>>>>>> Press.
>>>>>> "Most involve authorities' attempts to close down houses of
wor****p, 
>>>>>> revoke
>>>>>> the citizen****p of believers or refuse to register their children
as
>>>>>> IsraelisIn incidents of violence, police are reluctant to press 
>>>>>> charges, Myers
>>>>>> said."
>>>>>> American evangelicals, who fill church pews every Sunday to
wor****p, 
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> never sup****t a harassment campaign against a Jewish family in
their
>>>>>> neighborhood. They would never allow the public burning of
Judaism's 
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> sacred text, the Talmud. They would never sup****t ecclesiastical 
>>>>>> leaders who
>>>>>> advocate violence against people of other faiths.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet such bigotry against Christian Jews has occurred this spring in

>>>>>> Israel.
>>>>>> (See, 
>>>>>> <http://truthtellers.org/alerts/israelahistoryofhate.htm>Israel:
A
>>>>>> History of Hate Crimes,
>>>>>> <http://truthtellers.org/alerts/israeliteengang.htm>Israel
Teen
Gang 
>>>>>> Attacks
>>>>>> Arabs,
>>>>>
>>>>> Beating up on Arabs? LOL. Who the **** cares? I'd beat the ****
>>>>> out of an Arab too. Muslims are s***.
>>>>>
>>>> Here's the are you a racist moron test. Would you beat a non Muslim 
>>>> Arab like a Arab bahai who's family fled Iran because of intense 
>>>> persecution or a Arab Christain?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's an Arab "Christain"? Gee, could this be an example of bigotry?
>>>
>> No its an example of being a **** house speller. I cant even spell 
>> buddhism right.
>>
>
> LOL. Natch.
>
You would make a great politican Doug. You have managed to go 2 days or so

without answering my question.
 




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Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )
jazzerciser@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-23 19:40:49 
Re: Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )
"üDoug±Ç" <n  2008-07-23 18:21:12 
Re: Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )
"Seon Ferguson"  2008-07-24 14:53:50 
Re: Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )
"üDoug±Ç" <n  2008-07-24 11:32:54 
Re: Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )
"Seon Ferguson"  2008-07-25 09:31:09 
Re: Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )
"üDoug±Ç" <n  2008-07-26 15:51:09 
Re: Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )
"Seon Ferguson"  2008-07-27 09:00:19 
Re: Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )
"Seon Ferguson"  2008-07-25 09:32:11 
Re: Jews Against Jesus ( Harmony Grant )
jazzerciser@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-26 03:49:30 

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