several items, including: let's stop this talk about "the Arab hatred
for America," it is the psychological pivot of all Zionist disinfo
propaganda
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Item #1:
"chosin123" asks: Does 'anyone' 'feel' the 'Arab hatred'
for 'America' is 'justified' -- I examine his question
by Dick Eastman
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From: "chosin123" <chosin123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I'm interested to know if anyone feels the Arab hatred for America
> is justifeid and if so tell me why?....hoping for some good debate
> here!
What a loaded question. It drops the unsup****ted assumption
that "Arabs"
do "hate" what is termed "America." But this is unsup****ted and
really
a very vague and misleading assumption.
Arabs make a distinction between the American people, whom they know
to be both powerless and misinformed by a criminal ruling elite with
unlimited money power, institutional power, information power.
Do all Arabs "hate" (the term simply means being totally dominated by
irrational evil that won't listen to reason ) -- to say that someone
is
possessed of hate -- is to say he is a hopeless anti-social case and
must be denied the rights of normal people -- do they, then, "all"
"hate" America -- but what is "America" in this question -- do all
Arabs hate all Americans??? But "chosin123" is not asking that -- he
is assuming it from the outset -- and is asking us if
irrational "hatred"
is
"justified?"
Asking if all Arabs hating all Americans (which is his assumption,
taken
as a given) is "justified" is setting up this sophistic trick:
"All Arabs Hate All Americans.
Hating all Americans is certainly unjust.
Therefore the Arab cause is without Justice."
How many readers read what "chosin123" was asking, and got
sucked into his spin? I suspect all of you. (I know you too well.)
Hatred refers in part to stimulus elicted emotion. It is not
justified --
it is conditioned. Justice is of reason. Conditioning is a history
of the
what stimuli have been applied to an organism to affect its
involuntary
responding (fear, anger, anxiety).
American psychologist B.F. Skinner once wrote, "The organixsm is
always
right." Meaning that we respond exactly how our past conditioning
and the
current environing stimuli and our genetic endowment make us respond.
Hatred is label we put on people who are exhibiting a certain class of
emotional responses. If the emotion is elicited -- then we know
that
there were sufficient environmental events to produce that effect --
if it
happens then it can happen, if it happens then the conditioning
conditions
must have been right for effecting its happening.
Are Arabs exhibiting anger and frustration and on very rare occasions
overt
elicited aggression in response to conditioning conditions applied by
foreigners known to be Americans and British?
Yes.
Do Arabs therefore hate all Americans?
No. Although some may conclude that it is rational to capture and
exact
revenge on any American as a way of applying unacceptable loss on all
Americans so that they in turn will pressure their leader****p to back
off
the policies that are so aversive to the Iraqis.
Do Arabs blame all Americans?
No. They feel that the US and its people are controlled by a
disciplined
and organized infiltration of Zionists -- the Rothschilds and
Rockefellers;
financiers in Wall Street and the City of London, cor****ation CEOs,
the
networking and criminal elite. They view the average American as both
voiceless,powerless and duped. This is a rational position, and fully
justified by the known evidence.
What evidence is that?
For example -- 9-11 has been proven by
Eastman-Dewdney-Longspaugh-Hoffman-Omholt-Haupt and a dozen others to
have
been an inside-job false-flag black-op mass-murder frame-up -- here
is the
evidence:
The proof is overwhelming, multiple, sufficient, ample, and you can
review
it and confirm its conclusiveness in just a few minutes of direct
inspection
of these photographs:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911crimefile/message/14
Or here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/78
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/71
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/9-11-demonstrative-evidence-of-
frameup/messages/1
The fact is that what angers the intelligent and informed Arab is what
angers every intelligent and informed man of good will on this planet.
"Chosin123" asks if "Arab hatred for America is justifeid " --
knowing
that everyone agrees that blinding emotion controlling one's will is
always
wrong (i.e., in scientific terms, that elitcited aggression overrides
performance that can yield changes of situation that would give more
permanent benefits from "the ways of peace, understanding,
amity, forgiveneess and cooperation etc.) preventing the fruits of
rational deliberation seeking enlightened best interest for both
the individual and for the common good, for justice, for humane
relation****ps among the family of mankind.
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Wa****ngton
----- Original Message -----
From: "chosin123" <chosin123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: <terrorinamerica2001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 4:43 AM
Subject: [Terror in America 2001] arab view and ours
> I'm interested to know if anyone feels the Arab hatred for America
> is justifeid and if so tell me why?....hoping for some good debate
> here!
>
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Items 2, 3 and 4:
>From my inbox:
Came upon some interesting info.
9-11 was a classic Pearl Harbor and JFK project.
The real Atta was NOT in any plane on 9/11/01.
(1) Mohamed Atta was a licensed pilot for years.
(2) His girlfriend in Venice, Fla told to shut up by FBI.
(3) She re****ted that Atta partied at the upscale Margarita Maggie's
in Sarasota. (Certainly not a man who was hiding.)
(4) Interestingly she re****ted that he ate ****k. This 'Atta' was a
double like the several Oswalds in JFK.)
(5) This 'Atta' wore so much gold the neighbors thought that he was
in the mob. (Again a non-Islamic practice.)
(6) He was actually a guest flight INSTRUCTOR at Huffman Aviation.
(7) Listen up now! His email list included defense staff in US and
Canada.
(8) He was a frequent guest at Maxwell AFB.
(9) He was a frequent guest at the Defense Language Institute in
Monterrey, Alabama.
Cool
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National Military Command Center (NMCC) ops director asked
inexperienced
substitute on "9-10" to stand his watch on 9-11 -- Starting at 8:30 AM
-- Even though 9/11 events had already started to happen !!! ???
Address:http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?
name=News&file=article&sid=65&mode=&order=0&thold=0
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9/11 Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
Address:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
Sunday, 23 September, 2001, 12:30 GMT 13:30 UK
Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
Waleed Al Shehri left the US a year ago,
he says
Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide
attacks
on Wa****ngton and New York has turned up alive and well.
The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried
out
the attacks are now in doubt.
Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI
said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the
World
Trade Centre on 11 September.
His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and
on
television around the world.
Hijacking suspects
Flight 175: Marwan Al-Shehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza
Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi
Flight 11: Waleed M Alshehri, Wail Alshehri, Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz
Alomari and Satam Al Suqami
Flight 77: Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi
and Hani Hanjour
Flight 93: Ahmed Alhaznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed
Alghamdi
Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.
He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks
on
New York and Wa****ngton, and had been in Morocco when they happened.
He
has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to
Saudi press re****ts.
He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Dayton
Beach
in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom
the FBI has been referring.
But, he says, he left the United States in September last year,
became
a
pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further
training
course in Morocco.
Mistaken identity
Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects, has also
been quoted in Arab news re****ts.
Abdelaziz Al Omari 'lost his pass****t in Denver'
He says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his
pass****t while studying in Denver.
Another man with exactly the same name surfaced on the pages of the
English-language Arab News.
The second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines,
the
re****t says.
Meanwhile, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily,
says
it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi.
Khalid Al-Midhar may also be alive
He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that
crashed
in Pennsylvania.
And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may
also be alive.
FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity
of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.
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I was listening to an interview on Democracy Now dated 9/10/03 with
one of the waiters (he was the union rep)--Fekkak Mamdouh--at Windows
on the World Restaurant at the WTC. He mentioned something
interesting, he said that there had been an "unusually large event
taking place," a breakfast event planned for the morning of 9/11/01
for 500 people but "somehow [his emphasis] it was like getting less
and less and end up with 98 coming to the party."
Seems like a huge no-show for that breakfast event. This is the
first I heard about this.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/10/1535252
at 43:30
minutes.
His e-mail address is ...
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Progressives rush to attack populism and defend Zionist version of 9-11
--
Like the Democratic Party, the entire Progressive Movement, from Wilson
and
TR to Chomsky, Nader, and Zepp Weasal and Hank "the Golem." Refusing
admit
the obvious overwhelming the sufficiency of the evidence proving the 9-11
mass-murder frame-up orchestrated by Pentagon Zionists, they demonstrate
priorities as twisted and black as anything in the mind of Wolfowitz,
Rumsfeld, Feith, Kissinger or Perle. And exactly the like Pentagon
Zionists
they use the rationalized and bogus excuse of anti-anti-Semiticism to
excuse their winking and cover of the mass-murderering war-instigators of
Sept. 11.
SEE HOW THE PROGRESSIVES HAVE DECLARED THEMSELVES OUR POLTICAL ENEMIES __
EVEN IN COMMON CAUSE WITH THE 9-11 FRAME-UP CONSPIRACY AND PREDATROY
FINANCE CAPITALISM AND JEWISH RACISM (ZIONISM):
Conspiracism and Right-Wing Populism
by Chip Berlet
Conspiracism often accompanies various forms of populism, and (Margaret)
Canovan notes that "the image of a few evil men conspiring in secret
against
the people can certainly be found in the thinking of the U.S. People's
Party, Huey Long, Mc Carthy, and others." Criticism of conspiracism,
however, does not imply that there are not real conspiracies, criminal or
otherwise. There certainly are real conspiracies throughout history. As
Canovan argues:
"[o]ne should bear in mind that not all forms or cases of populism involve
conspiracy theories, and that such
theories are not always false. The railroad kings and Wall Street bankers
hated by the U.S. Populists, the New
Orleans Ring that Huey Long attacked, and the political bosses whom the
Progressives sought to unseat--all these
were indeed small groups of men wielding secret and irresponsible power."
The US political scene is littered with examples of illegal political,
cor****ate, and government conspiracies such as Watergate, the Iran/Contra
scandal, and the systematic looting of the savings and loan industry.
The dilemma for the left is that right-wing populist organizers weave
these
systemic and institutional failures into a conspiracist narrative that
blames "secret elites." In a lengthy article on snowballing conspiracism
in
The New Yorker, Michael Kelly called this "fusion paranoia." With the rise
of "info-tainment" news programs and talk shows, hard right conspiracism,
especially about alleged government misconduct, jumps into the cor****ate
media with increasing regularity. As Kelly observes," It is not remarkable
that accusations of abuse of power should be leveled against
Presidents-particularly in light of Vietnam, Watergate, and Iran-Contra.
But
now, in the age of fusion paranoia, there is no longer any distinction
made
between credible charges and utterly unfounded slanders."
This confusion of left and right populism also occurs in Europe with
magazines such as Lobster in England. The subject is discussed in detail
in
the book Ecofascism: Lessons from the German Experience by Janet Biehl &
Peter Staudenmaier.
The US now ex****ts globalist neocor****atism-a world economy controlled by
cor****ate interests-as the hegemonic model that makes the rich richer and
the poor poorer. However, not all critics of globalist neocor****atism
champion democracy and equality. We must be careful to draw a distinction
between critiques that extend economic and social justice, and those that
claim economic privilege for middle class consumers at the expense of
social
justice. Outsider factions composed of business and financial sectors with
common goals regularly seek to displace the sectors in control of
political
and economic power in the US. A common tactic in this endless power
struggle
is to use populist rhetoric and anti-elite scapegoating to attract
constituencies in the middle class and working class.
Some of the forces in the US that oppose neocor****atist globalism are
outsider factions of business nationalists who favor protectionist trade
policies and oppose international cooperation in foreign policy. In the
past, business nationalism has also been the main sector in the US from
which emerged campaigns promoting union-busting, White supremacist
segregationism, the Red Scares, anti-immigrant xenophobia, and allegations
of Jewish banking conspiracies. When populist consumer groups such as
those
led by Ralph Nader forged uncritical alliances with outsider faction of
business nationalists to rally against GATT and NAFTA, the anti-elite
rhetoric of right wing populism quickly emerged.
Why is this a problem? Because the conspiracist scapegoating typical of
right wing populism masks a history of xenophobia and repressive
authoritarianism on behalf of the majority. Right wing populist movements
in
the US have used scapegoating allegations of wrongdoing to rationalize
White
supremacy, antisemitism, and patriarchal hetero***ism.
The main scapegoats of right wing populism are people of color, especially
Blacks. Attention is diverted from the White supremacist roots by using
coded language to frame the issue in terms of welfare, immigration, tax,
or
education policies. Women, gay men and lesbians, youth, students, and
environmentalists are also frequently scapegoated.
The removal of the obvious anti-communist underpinnings assisted left wing
conspiracists in creating a parody of the fundamentalist/libertarian
conspiracist critiques. Left wing conspiracists strip away the underlying
religious fundamentalism, antisemitism, and economic social Darwinism, and
peddle the repackaged product like carnival s**** oil salesmen to
unsuspecting sectors of the left. Those on the left who only see the
antielitist aspects of right-wing populism and claim they are praiseworthy
are playing with fire. This is a time for progressives to be wary of
attempts by the political right to woo the left. As one anti-racist group
warned:
"Left analysts and activists like Alexander Cockburn who are attracted to
one or another point put forward by
militia-led groups about "freedom," such as the Fully Informed Jury
Association . . .need to be aware of the poison
pill of racism and anti-semitism covered by that sugar coating."
Doug Henwood, editor of Left Business Observer in New York, has commented
on
the resurgence of fascist ideas around the world. Henwood cited Karl
Polanyi's, The Great Transformation, which listed symptoms for a country
infected with fascism, including "the spread of irrationalist
philosophies,
racialist esthetics, anticapitalist demagogy, heterodox currency views,
criticism of the party system, widespread disparagement of the `regime,'
or
whatever was the name given to the existing democratic set-up." Henwood
writes that "the list is a good description of the political scene in much
of the world today-the denunciation of Coca-Cola capitalism by German
skinheads, chanted between attacks on Turks and Mozambicans; the racist
welfare-baiting of our own demagogues; and ubiquitous, vague, and
nihilistic
denunciations of `the system' that offer little hope for transformation."
Radio host David Barsamian who produces the syndicated Alternative Radio
interview series from Boulder, Colorado warns that personalities who harp
on
conspiracies are providing entertaining confusion rather than helping
people
focus clearly on complex issues. He says progressives should not fall for
"left guruism" where sensational anti-government theories are accepted
without any independent critical analysis.
Barsamian feels some on the left have been "mesmerized by the flawless
dramatic presentation" of people such as Daniel Sheehan of the Christic
Institute. This demagoguery distracted attention from the "substance of
the
allegations which don't all check out." This created a climate-even a
demand-for elaborate conspiracy theories to flourish. Barsamian
acknowledges
"we all are longing for simple comforting explanations, but by focusing on
The Secret Team, or the Medellin Cartel, we ignore the institutions that
keep producing the problems."
There are differences between US and European right wing populism. Matthew
N. Lyons says the following:
"Unlike the European countries, capitalism [in the US] did not emerge from
feudal society, but rather was
imposed abruptly through a special kind of mass colonial conquest. .
..primarily the rule of White nationalism,"
"In the US the populist vision of cross-class unity is related to the
dominant US ideology of classlessness,
social mobility, and liberalism in general, but populism tends to break
with
political orthodoxy by circumventing
normal channels and attacking established leader****p groups, at least
rhetorically."
"White nationalism has meant (a) the absence of feudal remnants and the
pervasiveness of liberal capitalist
doctrines and institutions, and (b) a racial caste system that made
working-class Euro-Americans part of a
socially privileged White collective."
Progressive conspiracism is an oxymoron. Rejecting the conspiracist
analytical model is a vital step in challenging both right-wing populism
and
fascism. It is im****tant to see anti-elite conspiracism and scapegoating
as
not merely destructive of a progressive analysis but also as specific
techniques used by fascist political movements to provide a
radical-sounding
left cover for a rightist attack on the status quo. Far from being an
aberration or a mere tactical maneuver by rightists, pseudo-radicalism is
a
distinctive, central feature of fascist and proto-fascist political
movements. This is why the early stages of a potentially-fascist movement
are often described as seeming to incor****ate both leftwing and rightwing
ideas.
In the best of times, conspiracism is a pointless diversion of focus and
waste of energy. Conspiracism promotes scapegoating as a way of thinking;
and since scapegoating in the US is rooted in racism, antisemitism,
ethnocentrism, and xenophobia, conspiracism promotes bigotry. In periods
of
social or economic crisis, populist conspiracism facilitates the spread of
fascist and para-fascist social movements because they too rely on
demagogic
scapegoating and conspiracist theories as an organizing tool.
Radical-sounding conspiracist critiques of the status quo are the wedge
that
fascism uses to penetrate and recruit from the left.
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Other Resources:
Political Research Associates - http://www.publiceye.org/
disinfopedia - http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Chip_Berlet
Conspiracism as a Form of Scapegoating -
http://www.publiceye.org/tooclose/DynamicsTOC.html
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