Russian Fatalism meets Sucker Credulity in John Kaminski
Don't read this misleading defeatist dirge by Kaminski without reading my
reply below it. --Dick Eastman
Buried Beneath an Avalanche of Lies; Chronicle of a Battle for the Truth
That Has Now Been Lost
By John Kaminski
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I remember the day when the Berlin Wall fell and everybody immediately
started talking about a Peace Dividend, money that would be diverted from
making weapons and invested in social improvements. And I remember that
bright and hopeful turn of the millennium into the two thousands, when
eager
optimists predicted that a new kind of humane society would sweep the
earth
to make wars obsolete and living sweet. Neither, of course, has come to
pass. Or will anytime soon. ...
<This long article was posted to this list yesterday>
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My reply:
Russian Fatalism meets Sucker Credulity in John Kaminski
by Dick Eastman
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Don't believe Kaminski's doom-and-gloom those-were-the-days-my-friend
dirge -- nor his undiscriminating conciliatory
benefit-of-the-doubt-granting deference and praise for every duplicitous
dissimulating rogue miscreant sonofa***** the cover-up throws at us.
Our politicians have been incompetent, negligent, corrupt and yet
validated
by monopoly-controlled mass media also incompetent, negligent and
corrupt.
The 9-11 Commission and its representation to the m***** is merely a case
in point. We all know that.
But what about false opposition on the internet? What about incompetent
opposition and negligent opposition?
I have many times remarked from his posts and his book that Kaminski
doesn't
even know the small-plane evidence -- look at what he wrote only about
the crash at the Pentagon in his latest essay:
> The French researcher Thierry Meyssan first pointed out that the hole in
the Pentagon could have in no way been caused by a giant jet airliner, and
this argument was taken to much deeper levels by dogged researchers such
as
Dick Eastman to prove to anyone with a brain than no giant passenger jet
had
caused that explosion in Wa****ngton.
> Consider this: the government says that an extremely intense fire that
burned only eight minutes completely va****ized an entire passenger
airliner,
yet did not burn hot enough to prevent Pentagon officials from proclaiming
that they had identified the DNA of every single passenger on the plane.
Pardon me, but do you want to buy a bridge?
> Furthermore, the FBI confiscated security camera video from a nearby gas
station that could easily clear up the mystery, but they have refused to
release it - along with voice recordings from the doomed airliners - in
the
name of national security. What does your sniffer tell you? Do you
remember
the TV detective story maxim: those who work to cover up the crime are the
ones who most likely committed it?
Whoa, Nelly! Hows that? I have been showing for over two years multiple
photographic proof, witness sup****ted, that the plane was too short
(proved
from the security camera recording pictures two ways);
I have pointed out the missile trail behind the tail fin of the attacking
too-short jet, I have pointed out the initial white-hot flash, a tower of
white over 120 ft. high is consistent with an high explosives missile
warhead explosion -- which fits the facts of a) the photographed missile
trail b) the damage done to the first floor; c) the powder burns on the
side of the building stretching all the way behind the heli****t mini
tower;
d) the witness in the Pentagon who heard the whine of a missile etc.;
I have shown how the many photos of the damaged wall prior to the collapse
of the wall over the entry hole shows that the aircraft that
hit
the building could not have had a wing engine on the starboard side;
that a hole was made on the second floor far from the crash that could
have
had nothing to do with the crash; that a pillar was blasted
away with steel reinforcement bars still standing near the ground and in a
location where it would have been impossible for any part of the Boeing to
have touched (given the fact that the Boeing 757 engines hand lower than
the fuselage)
I have shown that the one piece of obvious American Airlines 757 skin was
planted for photographers -- that the piece photographed on the north
side
had to have come from the starboard side (because of the letter fragment,
the rivet rows, the stretch of bare aluminum following the letter "n"
prove
that this was a starboard-side piece even as the starboard side of the
actual killer jet faced south during the attack and this piece was found
north of the crash and due west of the mini-heli****t landing pad. (And
just
recently another astounding proof has been identified by a new
nvestigator -- THE RIVET HOLES SHOW NO SIGN OF BEING TORN AWAY FROM THE
SKIN -- i.e., the piece that was wrongly planted on the wrong side of
the
lawn HAD NEVER BEEN RIVETED TO AN ACUTAL PLANE!!!)
And I have also pointed out that the first lamppost that was knocked down
southwest of the crash (the southwest lamppost at the Wa****ngton Blvd.
overpass of the road to the Pentagon south parking lot) that this
lamppost
was too far south of any point on the path of the approach of the Boeing
which witnesses overwhelmingly agree came in on a line that took it
directly
over the Sheraton, directly over the Naval Annex and directly over (or
North
of!!!) the Citgo gas station where Sgt. William Lagasse (whose statements
I
have been offering for a year now) states that the Boeing passed north of
him on its flight from west to east so that he could see the row of
starboard-side (right side) windows as it passed him -- making it utterly
impossible for Boeing he saw to have been the plane that knocked down the
southwestmost of the downed lampposts.
And I have shown that there was a distraction plane flying over DC
illegally
in protected airspace -- a four engine plane photographed from the
capital
steps in its diver (which I have long provided) and in a BBC broadcast
(stills of which I provide, taken from Vialls who erroneously says that
this
was the Boeing (despite the fact that the Boeing 757 is a two engine
plane,
not a four engine, and that the Boeing 757 has much more fuselage in front
of the wing than did this plane -- yet many witnesses watching from east
of
the Potomac thought that this plane "diving at an irrecoverable angle" was
Flight 77 when it could not have been.
These are some of the Pentagon facts where I know what I am talking about
and where I present the full photo and witness-statement evidence to back
it
up.
KAMINSKY SAYS "IF ONLY THE GOVERNMENT WOULD
RELASE THE GAS STATION VIDEO" WE MIGHT BE ABLE
TO TELL WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PENTAGON!!!!!!!! I
COULD STRANGLE THAT RAT!!!!!!!!!!
Not only that -- but when he references my findings HE
GIVES THE FIRST ROUGH FORMULATION THAT IS TWO
YEARS OLD -- WHICH WAS HASTILY SENT TO KEN
VARDAN AT A.P.F.N. (IT EVEN HAS "NORTH" AND
"SOUTH" LABELED WRONG (SWITCHED) IN THE
DIAGRAM AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE
WALL!!!) AND WHICH LACKS MOST OF THE PHOTO
EVIDENCE THAT HAS COME TO LIGHT SINCE THEN!!!
AND SO KAMINSKI -- KNOWING I HAVE BEEN UNABLE
TO GET VARDAN TO REMOVE THAT OLD PIECE OR
TO AT LEAST ADD A NOTE TELLING WHERE MORE
RECENTLY UNCOVERED EVIDENCE (OF THE ABOVE
DESCRIBED) CAN BE SEEN --
And Kaminski's whole argument in this rotton piece of his is that "Battle
for the Truth That Has Now Been Lost"
WHO THE HELL IS KAMINSKI TO SURRENDER ON
OUR BEHALF!!!!
WHO THE HELL IS KAMINSKI TO UNDERSTATE AND
IGNORE THE REAL OVER WHELMING CONCLUSIVE
EVIDENCE, AND TO OVERLOOK AND BURY IT AS
BLOODY OBVIOUSLY AS DOES MICHAEL MOORE,
JOHN JUDGE, MARK ROBINOWITZ, CHAD ______,
CAROL BROUILLET, PEGGY SCHONER, AND A
HOST OF OTHER FALSE OPPOSITION OBSTRUCTION
OF JUSTICE SONSO*****ES AS WELL AS THOSE
PARTIAL COVER-UP SERVERS MIKE RIVERO AND
MIKE RUPPERT WHO -- LIKE MICHAEL MOORE,
PUT OUT SOME INFORMATION BUT AVOID SHARING
WITH THEIR READERS THE INFORMATION THAT
POINTS DIRECTLY TO THE PENTAGON'S NEO-CON
LEADER****P WHO HAD TO BE IN ON THE ATTACK
GIVEN WHAT THE EVIDENCE ABOVE ESTABLISHES
ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE ATTACK -- THE
RESPONSE TO THE ATTACK AT THE PENTAGON WAS
A COVER-UP FROM THE BEGINNING.
WHO THE HELL IS KAMINSKI TO GIVE A SITE THAT
LEAVES OUT TWO YEARS OF MY RESEARCH AS
REPRESENTATIVE OF MY POSITION WHILE HE GIVES
THIS LIST WITH A MAJORITY OF FALSE OPPOSITON
EACH PUTTING OUT DISMISSIVE DISINFORMATION
ABOUT MY FINDINGS AND THOSE OF PHYSICS911???
SO THAT EVERY CRITICISM OF THE SMALL-PLANE FINDING
IS LINKED -- BUT NOT ONE URL WITH ANSWERS TO THESE
GIVEN!!!!
But Kaminski defends the false oppositon, and views me as the new
Torquemada
for identifying Judge, Grable (Webfairy) , Roberts, Harvey as people
caught
putting out disinformation and acting systematically to bury the best
evidence.
Kaminski writes:
Now. Let us divert ever so briefly into the meaning of that oft-used but
frequently misunderstood word - "disinformation." It differs ever so
slightly from the word "lie" in that it is a lie generally grouped with a
series of facts that may be true, thereby ruining the credibility of the
truths within the grouped series of facts.
It is used frequently on the web when one person disagrees with another
person's assertions. I've often had the intuition that the people who most
frequently use the term - are you listening, Dick Eastman? - are very
likely
the ones who are spinning it to begin with. On the other hand, Eastman has
been right a good deal of the time, particularly in regard to John Judge
and
Kyle Hence, two questionable figures who have shadowed the bogus Kean
Commission hearings and pretended to be influencing the proceedings.
Kaminski accuses me of being the disinformation agent!!!!!!! ( -- or is
it his "intuition" that accuses me? Is there a difference-- isn't this is
just making inuendo, planting the rumor, without accepting full
responsibility for for the poison sent?) Kaminski never asked me why I
know Webfairy is a disinformation agent -- which I know from catching her
in many dishonest attacks -- not because she "disagrees with my
positions!"
(which is a lie Kaminski readily accepted -- as did other pretended
friends -- believing Webfairy's spurious defense of herself and perhaps
believeing her characterization of me as a drunk (I never touch the stuff
--
the claim has no basis), as a disinfo agent (I am not affiliated with
anyone! my findings are my own, my political views are my own, I am no
one's man, I have taken money from no one (someone sent me $100.00 to get
a
faster computer which I sent back, fyi ), as a *** pervert (I am not and
the claim has no basis) ), as menally ill (I am not and the claim has no
basis -- married (1979 and still going strong -- with stresses related to
my
internet activism) with three daughters (home-schooled the oldest, who
graduated from UW at 20), and a mortagage, mowed lawn, neat flower beds,
painting the living and dining room before daughter's wedding etc. , dog,
cat, hamster and over 4000 books in the basement all history, science,
politics, biography, good literature and childrens books -- read Pride
and
Prejucice and Anne of Green Gables and Pilgrims Progress aloud to the
amily -- before Clinton and Bush, that is!!!) How does one defend
himself
against slander?
Kaminski does not present my current evidence or my answer to such easily
answerable totally and transparently disingenous and fraudulent disinfo
critics as Mark Robinowitz, as "Urban Legends," or Chip B.
ANd look at those whose site URLs he gives -- note the order -- note the
super abudnance of discredited disinfo agents whose attacks on the
small-plane finding are transparently dishonest hatchet jobs!!!
I've added my *****sment after each name --
* Mike Ruppert: blacks out small-plane evidence
* Jared Israel: blacks out small-plane or Israel-link evidence
* Eric Hufschmid: lightweight
* Andreas von Buelow: blacks out small-plane evidence
* Michael Meacher: blacks out small-plane evidence
* Thierry Meyssan: blacks out small-plane evidence
* Dick Eastman: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deastman1.htm
Note that this is my two-year old rush-job that Vardan has
refused to replace -- lacking all the new discoveries made
since!!!
* A.K. Dewdney: http://physics911.org/
here is the first good one
* Jim Hoffman: http://911research.wtc7.net/
* Jeff King: blacks out small-plane evidence
* Rosalee Grable: blacks out small-plane evidence, deliberate
misrepresentations and personal attacks, creates a new sensational bogus
distraction every few months - all calculated to crowd out or badmouth the
real evidence
* Bill Manning: ???
* Jerry Russell: http://www.911-strike.com/
* Ken Vardon: hasn't responded to a letter of mine in months -- sided
with
webfairy because I was ungentlemanly
* Peter Meyer: downplays small-plane evidence
* Paul Thompson: ???
* Mark Elsis: Good.
* Carol Valentine: http://www.public-action.com/
Recommended!
* Ralph Omholt: http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm
* Jon Carlson: http://www.rense.com/general54/flight93crashwitnesses.htm
* Gerard Holmgren's "The Truth About Sept. 11": Sides with Jared Israel
in
blacking out or downplaying conclusive Pentagon evidence.
* Woody Box: ???
* Michel Chossudovsky: http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html
Recommended
* Nico Haupt: http://ny911truth.org/articles/stop_coverup.htm
Undiscriminating chronicoler *
Michael Kane: Isn't the an actor?
* Barbara Honegger: ???channelid=101&contentid=641
* Scott Forbes: ???
* Scott Loughrey: ???
* Alex Jones: http://www.prisonplanet.com/
Good.
* Col. Donn de Grand Pre: he does not connect with other researchers
* Phil Jayhan: no discrimination
* John Judge: Disinformation Agent.
* Kyle Hence: Disinformation -- works with John Judge.
* Michael Moore: Zionism's mouthpiece for invasion of Saudi Arabia
* Daniel Hopsicker: blacks out small-plane evidence -- proptecting
Pentagon
(br)ass -- otherwise very good.
* A.K. Dewdney: http://www.serendipity.li/wot/operation_pearl.htm
Recommended. Best credentialled researcher. His work sup****ts
small-plane
finding.
* Riley/von Kleist: ???
* Michael Elliott: ???
* Jim Hoffman: Good, but gets into speculation about exotic technologies
regarding WTC buildings.
And at this point let me add (BUT THERE IS MORE ON "DISINFORMATION" THAT
FOLLOWS THIS)
THE REAL AND SUFFICIENT FACTS
PROVING THE 9-11 ATTACK WAS
PERPETRATED BY TOP LEADER****P
IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THE PENTAGON,
THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, THE
FAA, THE RESCUE, CLEAN-UP AND
FORENSICS:
Pentagon crash evidence proves frame-up,
Implicates Pentagon leader****p in black-op
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911crimefile/message/8
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911crimefile/message/3
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/solidaritystreet/message/2
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/71
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/9-11-demonstrative-evidence-of-frameup/messages/1
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/78
At any rate, John Kaminski has his head up his ass (readers of Webfairy
will
note this is NOT an *****c metaphor!) if he thinks that my efforts to
weed
out the inevitable phalanx of disinformation operatives has doomed
efforts
to get the wholly sufficient blockbuster evidence that has been amassed
(see immediately above) -- evidence that conclusively proves the
mass-murder
coverup, damn it!!!
And now for the real truth about "disinformation" and how it works and how
it must be fought -- from John Perna (the material is originally from the
John Birch Society, and/but/however I endorse every word. (added
immediately below)
Yours sincerely,
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Wa****ngton
Every man is responsible to every other man.
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From: "johnperna" <johnperna@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [US Militia Alliance] The Golden Rule of Disinformers
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
This makes the person, who tries to expose the DISINFORMER,
look like a copy cat.
How to recognize false opposition (NEUTRALIZERS), disinformers.
NEUTRALIZERS are people who distract patriots from defending freedom.
AMONG MANY OTHER TACTICS,
they do this by:
1. Deceiving patriots into sup****ting hoaxes.
2. Dividing patriots into fighting each other by creating strife among
patriots
3. Deceiving patriots into creating class struggle by promoting ethnic
hatred.
4. Attempting to waste the time of patriots, by forcing them to respond to
personal attacks.
5. Using multiple aliases to create the appearance that there is someone,
who believes them to be credible.
6. ABOVE ALL: Accusing the most effective patriots of being false
opposition.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
IT WILL BE QUITE CLEAR WHO IT IS, THAT DOES THESE THINGS,
IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT IT.
Any person; who does ALL of the above is certain to be a NEUTRALIZER.
NEUTRALIZERS generally overestimate their own im****tance,
believing that we will waste our time responding to them.
As explained previously, attempting to waste the time of patriots,
by forcing them to respond to personal attacks,
is one of the common strategies of disinformers.
Rather than wasting time responding to personal attacks,
it is better to respond quickly to this foolishness,
basically by sending a "form letter";
which addresses anything worthy of comment.
Then go back to work opposing tyranny.
IN THIS WAY Neutralizers ACTUALLY DO NOT waste the time of patriot
activists.
Just dispense with them, with a standard response
(This is also a standard response).
Such a quick remedy is not available to the NEUTRALIZER;
in that, it takes much less effort, and fewer words,
to explain the truth,
than to argue a fiction.
What Neutralizers generally do,
when they learn that they are not wasting my time,
is to cry like a little child,
when no one will watch him showing off.
To read THE NEUTRALIZERS by Robert Welch,
VISIT:
http://www.jbs.org/visitor/focus/refute/neutralizers.htm
There is a presence, on the internet,
of persons who attempt to distract patriots away from defending liberty,
by seducing them into all sorts of silly programs;
which would ultimately, waste resources,
make them appear to be foolish,
and cause them to lose credibility.
This includes claims that the va**** trails; that jets always leave, are a
plot to poison us.
This includes claims that the stickers, placed on the back of road signs
by
manufacturer's , are some sort of trail blazing for a future enemy army.
This even includes a propaganda blitz to BAN WATER,
by using its scary sounding chemical name: Dihydrogen Monoxide
At the first glance we might be tempted to assume that it is merely
madness,
that there are those among us who are telling people that the clouds,
and the street signs, are out to get us,
or that we should ban Dihydrogen Monoxide (which is also know as water)
A PATRIOT,
WHO DOES NOT FALL FOR ANY OF THIS NONSENSE,
will be distracted from defending freedom,
by having to waste all of his time responding to personal attacks.
To paraphrase Skakespeare
"Me thinks there is a method in their madness".
The REALLY interesting thing to notice, if HOW MANY of the "experts";
who help to propagate these outlandish fantasies ARE PAST OR PRESENT
FEDERAL
EMPLOYEES.
One of these disinformers lives in a ****pping container,
in a very rural area of Owen County, Indiana.
He heats his ****pping container with firewood.
Who pays for his computer upkeep, accessories,
or Internet Service Provider fees?
If you will study the tactics used by the FBI COINTELPRO program.
THEN you will recognize FBI COINTELPRO immediately.
Visit:
http://bcn.boulder.co.us/environment/vail/ifanagentknocks.html
Take note of the following paragraph:
"The FBI COINTELPRO program was initiated in 1956. Its purpose, as
described later by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, was "to expose, disrupt,
misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize activities" of those
individuals and organizations whose ideas or goals he opposed. Tactics
included: falsely labeling individuals as informants; infiltrating groups
with persons instructed to disrupt the group; sending anonymous or forged
letters designed to promote strife between groups; initiating politically
motivated IRS investigations; carrying out burglaries of offices and
unlawful wiretaps; and disseminating to other government agencies and to
the media unlawfully obtained derogatory information on individuals and
groups."
If you understand the meaning of the tactic
"to expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize
activities"
you will understand that the person who is most likely of being a Fed,
is the one who involves patriots in activities that have no effect on
those
who are building tyranny, and activities that will destroy the credibility
of
the patriots.
Those who are building tyranny would love to convince people that we are
all
a
bunch of paranoid nuts,
so that we will we unable to warn people about the building of tyranny.
Those who are building tyranny
would be more capable of convincing people that we are
paranoid nuts, if they could convince a segment of the patriots to run
around telling people that the clouds, and the street signs,
are out to get us,
or that we should ban water.
If you understand the meaning of the tactic
"infiltrating groups with persons instructed to disrupt the group;
sending anonymous or forged letters designed to promote strife between
groups"
OR OF:
"disseminating to other government agencies and to
the media unlawfully obtained derogatory information on individuals and
groups."
THEN you will know that a campaign of personal attacks
on the real patriots is a part of the FBI COINTELPRO program.
If you understand the meaning of the tactic of
falsely labeling individuals as informants
THEN you will know that the person;
who is most likely to be a fed,
is the one who calls the real patriot a fed.
It is a common tactic of FBI COINTELPRO to try to
be THE FIRST ONE MAKE THE ACCUSATION.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
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