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Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US

by "RamRod Sword of Baal" <Ramrod sword of Baal@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 9, 2008 at 08:09 PM

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>> >> > I wonder if people in the USA realize what people around the world
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>> > We don't give a ****. Just thank us for the welfare we send your way
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>> Well I guess you can start by telling us exactly what welfare that is?
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> Billions wiped off Australian share market
> By Mike Head
> 21 January 2008
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> Australian share prices have plummeted since the start of 2008, driven
by
> the exposure of local banks and financial institutions to the US credit
> crisis. It is becoming increasingly clear that the Australian economy as
a
> whole is far from immune to the impact of a US recession, despite a
> prolonged local boom based on mining ex****ts.

Much cut.

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I guess here is some more of the US welfare.

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http://www.etagriculture.com/mar_apr2003/news02.html
US dumps farm produce in global markets
In clear violation of WTO agriculture rules, US is dumping five primary
farm 
commodities in global markets. It is ex****ting corn, soyabean, wheat, rice

and cotton at prices far below their production cost in an effort to wipe 
out global competition.
The US is ex****ting wheat at prices 40 per cent lower than production
costs. 
In the case of soyabean, the price difference has been increasing steadily

over the last four years and is currently at 30 per cent while for maize
it 
is 25-30 per cent. In 2001, cotton was being sold in the international 
markets at 57 per cent lower than its production cost, while the price 
difference for rice has stabilised at 20 per cent. As a result of these 
prices, the US is the world's largest ex****ter of wheat, corn, cotton and 
soyabean, and the second largest in rice.
Needless to say the effects are serious. The structural price depression 
caused by the agricultural dumping affects developing countries whose 
farmers grow the same products. First, below-cost im****ts drive developing

country farmers out of their local markets. This is happening around the 
world - in Jamaica, Burkina Faso and the Philippines. Second, farmers who 
sell their products to ex****ters find their global market share undermined

by low-cost competition.

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See also

http://blog.timmorelandonline.com/2008/02/10/analyzing-mike-huckabees-agricultural-policy.aspx

a.. While America prepares for the day when Mike Huckabee sees the U.S. 
unable to receive food from outside of its borders, consumers will be
faced 
with higher food prices and taxes and the economy will be hampered. 
Huckabee implies that the United States will produce less food if
subsidies 
are lowered or eliminated.  In fact, Australia and New Zealand can act as 
case studies to the contrary.  After freeing their agricultural markets, 
they have not experienced any trouble with their food supplies.  Both 
efficiency and competition have increased amongst farmers.  As well, 
two-thirds of American farmers do not receive sup****t from the government.

The majority of the market produces quite capably on its own.  America
will 
never need to worry about a situation in which we will not be able to feed

ourselves.  The wealth of fruitful land and impressive machinery will
enable 
America to battle the improbable situation of feeding the entire country 
without any help from outside of the borders.


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http://www.finalcall.com/international/farmers10-08-2002.htm

WA****NGTON (IPS)-New U.S. agricultural subsidies benefit big business
while 
impoveri****ng poor  farmers from developing countries and they contradict 
advice from global institutions like the World Bank and the International 
Monetary Fund (IMF), says a development group.

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http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/twr141h.htm

Zambian National Farmers Union president Ajay Vashee has branded the US
farm 
bill a terrible move that will hurt the whole of Africa. Zambian farmers 
will be forced to produce goods at uncompetitive prices because the US
will 
be able to dump cheaper agricultural produce on the market, said Vashee.

His countrys Agriculture Minister Mundia Sikatana concurred. This is 
terrible and it is scaring us. They are the same people who tell us not to

subsidise production but are doing exactly that.3

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http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/trade/subsidies/

US, Brazil Wrangle over Farm Subsidies (June 19, 2007)
This Associated Press article re****ts on the WTO talks and on the 
disagreement between the United States and Brazil over how much the US 
should cut its farm subsidies. The US said that it was willing to limit
its 
farm subsidies to $17 billion while Brazil is asking the US for larger
cuts. 
Farm subsidies make it impossible for poorer nations to develop their 
economies by selling their agricultural products abroad. Once again, it 
seems like there won't be a major breakthrough in these talks.

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http://open.iatp.org/phplist/iatpnews.php?id=1593

IATP has produced a short primer for those interested in learning more
about 
how agricultural dumping occurs. The primer explains how U.S.-based 
agribusiness firms are able to dump farm crops onto the international
market 
and still make considerable profits. At the same time, farmers in the U.S.

and around the world lose.

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Heaps more of these out there, but this should show you what American Farm

Subsidies are doing to the poor farmers around the world.

So much for free trade and democracy...........

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Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"RamRod Sword of Baa  2008-03-07 01:04:11 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"Death" <Dea  2008-03-07 20:53:17 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"RamRod Sword of Baa  2008-03-08 06:05:31 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"Death" <Dea  2008-03-08 12:56:59 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"RamRod Sword of Baa  2008-03-09 20:09:03 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"Death" <Dea  2008-03-09 23:50:00 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"RamRod Sword of Baa  2008-03-10 16:00:45 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"Death" <Dea  2008-03-10 11:04:02 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"RamRod Sword of Baa  2008-03-10 20:54:27 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"Death" <Dea  2008-03-10 16:54:56 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"RamRod Sword of Baa  2008-03-11 01:30:27 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"Death" <Dea  2008-03-10 22:15:36 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"RamRod Sword of Baa  2008-03-11 18:28:04 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"Death" <Dea  2008-03-11 19:22:40 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"RamRod Sword of Baa  2008-03-12 15:23:41 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
"Death" <Dea  2008-03-12 19:52:25 
Re: It seems it just gets silly and sillier in the US
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