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Re: California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

by juanjo <jonpetry@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 17, 2008 at 05:51 PM

What truly terrifies the fundamentalist Christians is that they know
they are fighting a losing fight.  Of course if they truly believed
the nonsense they spout about the end of the world coming they should
be rejoicing. The simple reality is that if one looks at the
opposition to same *** marriage it is very much generational.  The 50
and over crowd constitute the majority of the opposition to same ***
marriage.  The younger you go, the greater the number of people who
feel that it is a non-issue.  When one gets to the twenty somethings,
the majority simply do not view the issue the same way at all.  They
are far more likely to know gay people from work and the neighborhood
and have gay friends.  The old propaganda used by the fundamentalists
doesn't work on them.  So strategy wise the fundamentalists know that
if they want to pass constitutional amendments prohibiting same ***
marriage, they have to do it now.

There are now ten states that allow same *** marriage or its
functional equivalent.  Thousands of people in Massachusetts have been
married and the country has not fallen into the sea.  If California
were to start to issue marriage licenses to same *** couples as seems
likely in 30 days, then the country will see that life continues as
usual.  It will be no big deal at all and in another 5 years people
will wonder what all the fuss was about.


On May 15, 4:23 pm, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> On May 15, 6:51 pm, 4square <v7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > But there are still 48 states and three territories in  and of the USA
>
> You'd have to include New Jersey in that, as their civil unions are
> exactly equivalent to marriage in every way except name.  That gives
> you 47.  Four and a half years ago you had 50.
>
> > that say to homo***uals "GET ****ED! But don't ask us to sanction it."
>
> States that "sanction" it by allowing civil unions or registered
> partner****ps include Connecticut, Hawaii, Maine, New Hamp****re,
> Oregon, Vermont and Wa****ngton (as well as the District of Columbia).
> That's seven states.
>
> Add those seven to the three and you have 10 states that actively
> sup****t gay unions.
>
> That leaves you with 40.  Five years ago you had 50.
>
> This represents a change of 20%.  In under five years.  Just in THIS
> country.
>
> Should we mention full marriage rights in Spain, Belgium, Canada, the
> Netherlands and South Africa, and marriage-equivalent civil
> partner****ps in the United Kingdom?
>
> Should we mention civil unions and registered partner****ps in Andorra,
> the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary,
> Iceland, Luxembourg, New Zealand, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden,
> Switzerland and Uruguay?  As long as we're here, should we mention
> that these civil unions and registered partner****ps are also
> recognized in some parts of Argentina, Australia, Brazil and Mexico?
>
> Hey.  YOUR side has lost A LOT of ground... in just a very few years.
> The tide isn't turning back.  You're on the losing team.
 




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California's top court overturns gay marriage ban
Emerson Wainwright <em  2008-05-15 10:58:16 
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biljowhite@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 18:25:42 
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"Charlie M. 1958&quo  2008-05-15 13:45:23 
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"Sharx35" <s  2008-05-15 22:53:44 
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Dionisio <moc-rr-thgis  2008-05-15 19:31:55 
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"Dennis Kemmerer&quo  2008-05-15 12:32:13 
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4square <v7xrt@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 22:51:03 
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C M de Medici <"C  2008-05-18 23:31:08 
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"Mark K. Bilbo"  2008-05-19 10:30:36 
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Reverend Mother Tucker &l  2008-05-18 14:17:40 
Re: God SMITES New Sodom with Searing Heat to Thwart Court Rulin
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Richard Anacker <spam.  2008-05-18 23:39:50 
Re: California's top court overturns gay marriage ban
"Malik J.J. Jubilee&  2008-05-18 14:40:24 
Re: God SMITES New Sodom with Searing Heat to Thwart Court Rulin
Emerson Wainwright <em  2008-05-18 15:28:07 
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C M de Medici <"C  2008-05-18 23:23:43 
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C M de Medici <"C  2008-05-18 23:25:18 
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C M de Medici <"C  2008-05-18 23:27:11 
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C M de Medici <"C  2008-05-18 23:50:18 
Re: God SMITES New Sodom with Searing Heat to Thwart Court Rulin
Reverend Mother Tucker &l  2008-05-18 20:53:58 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
"Tom Sr." <t  2008-05-19 05:33:53 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
anonymous <anonymous@[  2008-05-19 17:45:56 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
JohnN <jnorris53@[EMAI  2008-05-19 11:54:20 
Re: God SMITES New Sodom with Searing Heat to Thwart Court Rulin
juanjo <jonpetry@[EMAI  2008-05-19 14:16:47 
Re: God SMITES New Sodom with Searing Heat to Thwart Court Rulin
SkyEyes <skyeyes9@[EMA  2008-05-19 14:44:40 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
Spartakus <spartakus@[  2008-05-20 16:04:51 
Re: California's top court overturns gay marriage ban
Spartakus <spartakus@[  2008-05-20 16:09:56 
Re: California's top court overturns gay marriage ban
Spartakus <spartakus@[  2008-05-20 16:18:15 
A Simple TRUTH To Tell - Mock Marriage and You'll BURN in Hell!
Reverend Mother Tucker &l  2008-05-20 21:08:17 
Re: A Simple TRUTH To Tell - Mock Marriage and You'll BURN in He
Bill Baker <wbaker@[EM  2008-05-21 02:20:22 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
Reverend Mother Tucker &l  2008-05-20 22:08:13 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
The Chief Instigator <  2008-05-21 05:31:20 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
No One <noone@[EMAIL P  2008-05-20 23:06:10 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
The Chief Instigator <  2008-05-21 06:18:37 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
Bill Baker <wbaker@[EM  2008-05-21 02:23:30 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
Johannes von Ebersdorf &l  2008-05-21 07:21:59 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
Bill Baker <wbaker@[EM  2008-05-21 10:45:08 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
No One <noone@[EMAIL P  2008-05-21 08:03:28 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
Johannes von Ebersdorf &l  2008-05-21 07:20:25 
Re: Soon the Constitution Will BAN Queer SHAM Marriage Forever!
C M de Medici <"C  2008-05-21 19:31:34 
Re: A Simple TRUTH To Tell - Mock Marriage and You'll BURN in He
C M de Medici <"C  2008-05-21 20:03:48 

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