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Re: ACLU & Client, MxGov, To Sue Ice For Being Anti-Semetic

by Don Gabacho <jpastore@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 11:13 PM

And why did Robinson visit Tijuana
 per the "emigrant abuse" ?:

VICTOR BALLINAS Correspondent (Jornada, 18 December 2006)

Tijuana, BC.  They come from Puebla, Nayarit, Jalisco, Michoacán and
Zacatecas.  All of them worked in the U.S. for several years.  But, with
their faces etched with fear and disoriention after having been de****ted
to
the frontier, they were in no mood to join in the posadas in this border
city.  They prefer to stay locked up in the Casa del Migrante rather than
run the risks of the streets here. 

“Out there, the cops are waiting to take everying we have.  They’re
worse
than thieves. They take everything, even your shoes.  Thieves at least
sometimes give you a ride where you’re going.” 

The Scalabrini shelter sees between 120 and 140 de****tees from the United
States daily.  Here they rest and feel protected, at least tem****arily.
Out there, on the street, danger lucks.  “We only have the dirty clothes
we
were de****ted in, and the police rob us or toss us in jail.  We’re
hunted,
and they  know when we go out,” the de****tees charge. 

Today,  Luis Soberanes Fernández, President of the National Commission of
Human Right (CNDH, for its initials in Spanish) came to observe conditions
at the facility. Accompaied by the case worker [“visador general”]
charged
with overseeing these de****tees, National Ombudsman Sarbanes met with
several dozen people who had been de****ted only hours earlier.

The shelter’s occupants confessed to Ombudsman Sarbanes, “We’re
afraid to
go in the street.  We don’t want to go out, even to the corer store,
because the police are waiting for us.” 

Tense, with fearful and anxiety-ridden faces, the de****tees were reluctant
at first to tell their stories.   Only one-by-one did they begin to talk.
One man said he was de****ted from the United States in a matter of hours,
after working 16 years in that country.   

The CNDH vistador assured the resident, “We are not the government, but
we
need to know what we cases are defending.  No one, and certainly no
Mexican
official can detain and jail you simply for having been an immigrant. 
Tell
us what happened.  Will you denounce the people who robbed you.  We’re
here
to listen.  Help us, so that other migrants won’t go through the same
things you’ve been through.”

“We’re here,” the migrants said, “because we’re afraid of the
police.  This
Tijuna sons of *****es are the worst cops in Mexico.  Yesterday, we were
de****ted at dawn, loaded into a truck and driven to the border.  The U.S.
“migra” warned us, “be careful, don’t travel alone.  Stay in
groups so you
can defend yourselves.’” 

“And, as soon as we crossed the border, the police were waiting. 
Getting
out of the [U.S.] truck only two of us got away from them.  The rest of us
were picked up.  The cops  grabbed us and tried to get us into their
patrol
cars.  We ran and hid out in a store.  The lady there told us to “calm
down, the cops don’t come in here.  It was hours before we could
leave.”    

The National Ombudsman shook his head.  He became indignant, and loudly
demanded to speak to the CNDH Director for Tijuana.  “Where are the
visdadores?”  Told they were in their office downtown,  Dr. Sarbanes
said,
“They’re needed here.  They’re REQUIRED here.  Now!”  Sarbanes
added “they
need to take denunicas and to give these people security.  They need to
contact the Mexican consulates and find out what’s going on.”  

A youth in a wheelchair, barely able to speak, related his story.  “I
was
looking for work when la migra picked me up.  I was delivering fish, but
had to quit to have an operation for cancer.  The doctor told me it’s
heridary, runs in my family.  I had to stop working.  I was told I
couldn’t
work with fish.  I made a claim in Illinois, and was making my monthly job
search re****t, when I was picked up and de****ted.”  “I’m afraid to
leave.
My friends here have talked about the police that take their money and
clothes.  A few of us are stuck here, others have gone to jail. I’m
afraid
of what will happen to me if I leave.” 

Marcelino Buendía also told his story.  “I’d been working in Denver
for 20
years.  I received a de****tation order because I’d been convicted of
driving without a licence, but there was no way for we to get one.  So, I
drove without one.  I’m going to stay here a few days, and speak with my
brother who can get me a few dollars to cross back.  That’s my life,
it’s
all I know.” 

Asked by the CNDH visador general when he was de****ted, Buendía said,
“The
police came to my house at five in the morning, and I was de****ted at
daybreak the following day.”

Another tem****ary resident complained, “In Los Angeles, they grabbed a
friend of mine who didn’t speak English, so they threw him in with the
crazies, where a psychiatrist was passing out medication to make everyone
sleep.  He told me ‘These people are all crazy, and they’re driving me
nuts.  I’m only here becase I can’t speak English.  Every day
they’re
giving me pills, but they’re not going to help me speak English, and
I’ll
stay locked up here.  It’ll be weeks until I get de****ted.”   

With their confidence restored somewhat, everyone was ready to tell their
story.  Everyone agreed, “Here, we’re afraid of the police.  Lookl,
they
grab us and take everything in our pockets, and our identification papers.
They take our money, when they don’t take us to jail.  They take
everything
– money, watches, clothes and even shoes.  They keep some, threaten the
rest.  It’s better for us to stay here.”

There were further complaints.  “I called the Mexican Consulate in Los
Angeles, but no one answered.  I couldn’t talk to anyone who could help
me.
I would like to add that the Immigration officers who spoke both Englisha
and Spanish mistreated us the most.” 

Someone said that the U.S. migra treats the indo***endos better than
Mexican police.  But one man disagreed in part.  “The Sheriff in
Lancaster
took $4500, my watch and my cell phone.  If the
U.S. police treat us better, it’s just that they feed us and don’t
beat us
up.  But as soon as we enter
Mexico, we have to fear the police.”
 




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ACLU & Client, MxGov, To Sue Ice For Being Anti-Semetic
Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-13 18:45:38 
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"f. barnes" <  2008-05-13 21:34:32 
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Tim Crowley <timmyturm  2008-05-13 21:37:52 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-13 23:00:02 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-13 23:17:47 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-14 10:22:13 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-14 10:20:52 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 12:04:38 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-14 12:07:34 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-14 18:01:07 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 23:13:03 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 13:53:00 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-14 18:02:42 
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Lamont Cranston <Lamon  2008-05-14 16:48:27 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-15 08:34:34 
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br549@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 20:33:44 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-15 19:36:54 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-16 08:20:10 
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THE-MAGGOT@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-14 17:00:14 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 18:48:47 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 18:58:23 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 19:47:40 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-15 06:25:19 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-15 19:32:21 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-15 23:17:36 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-16 08:17:13 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-16 08:16:04 
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Tim Crowley <timmyturm  2008-05-14 20:34:25 
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Tim Crowley <timmyturm  2008-05-14 20:35:33 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 20:45:46 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-15 06:26:44 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-15 19:21:24 
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br549@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 23:57:18 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-16 08:12:51 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 21:27:24 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 21:37:03 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 21:46:21 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 22:00:39 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-14 22:12:16 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-16 11:54:35 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-16 12:30:26 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-16 11:56:13 
Re: ACLU & Client, MxGov, To Sue Ice For Being Anti-Semetic
"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-16 12:33:26 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-16 18:21:41 
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Red Cloud <mmdir2005@[  2008-05-16 12:11:08 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-16 15:44:56 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-16 15:25:48 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-17 05:23:30 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-17 12:12:11 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-17 16:38:38 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-19 07:42:09 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-17 17:18:28 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-18 05:43:53 
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"johnny@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-18 15:19:14 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-18 16:23:54 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-18 17:16:24 
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"Dan Kimmel" &l  2008-05-18 21:20:27 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-19 10:25:46 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-19 11:54:15 
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Don Gabacho <jpastore@  2008-05-20 06:51:42 
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"Lamont Cranston&quo  2008-05-20 09:35:42 

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