At my homepage www.rolf-martens.com I've added today, under "News with
brief
comments":
Wednesday, 09 January 2008 (NWBC 337) On a new member of the Modern
Marxism
mailing list who has a "funny" name and address
2008-01-09, 11:47 GMT:
The Modern Marxism mailing list at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modern_marxism/,
which was created by me in
August 2007, yesterday 08.01.2008 was joined by a new member whose name
and
address seem curiously "out of place":
"worldfascist", this member calls him/her/itself, with the address
<worldfascist@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>.
What could be the point of that person's (or something) joining this
mailing
list? And should I as list owner intervene against this phenomenon and if
so,
how?
I'm guessing that what he/she/it is after is somehow to discredit this
mailing
list. "Look", that person (or something), then under quite another name
and
another address, or some friends of his/hers/its, perhaps intend(s) to say
publicly, "what kind of members that MM list has", and: "You cannot really
trust it not to be some kind of front for some fascist swine in the
world".
But such a silly trick attempt would not work at all, I think - if
possible
even less too, after I've sent the present message publicly. Nobody will
get
fooled by such a trick attempt.
Concerning who might be behind this it should be noted that, while the
country
of origin supposedly is Germany, it's not difficult for anybody in another
country with some rudimentary Internet knowhow to fake that too. There for
instance is one somewhat infamous reactionary inventor of and manager of
"cyber
ghosts", imaginary persons or organizations, dozens or even hundreds of
them so
far, in the USA, by the name of Murray, who's been "at it" since at least
1996
and who apparently is still active. On that phenomenon, see my "UNITE!
Info
#131en: The merry Murray 'M-L' melee", of 21.08.2000, part 1/8 etc. And
probably there are some other smalltime "funnies" of the same type too.
As for intervening, there's no reason for me to intervene against
somebody's
(or something's) member****p on the MM list, just because of a name plus
address.
It cannot be said that such a thing in itself disseminates some Nazi swine
propaganda, or that the list's being joined by something like that would
make
its character anything else than what its description says, namely:
"A list for discussion of the political theory of Marx, Lenin and Mao
Zedong
and of its further development",
a theory which obviously includes advocating the immediate killing of all
openly-appearing fascist swine in the world as soon as this is militarily
possible.
Should there in fact appear some openly Nazi or racist propaganda on this
list,
something which cannot be avoided from the outset, because the list is
unmoderated - which I think such a mailing list needs to be - then I
intend to
deal with this approximately in accordance with that provision, last in
its
description, which says:
"Postings held by the listowner to be spam will be tolerated to a certain
extent - that beyond which their volume is judged to be a problem for most
list
subscribers. Subscribers held to be writing spam will be warned against
this,
publicly on the list, and will be kicked off it (only) in case they don't
heed
two such warnings. Exceptions to this are addresses sending
business-advertisement type spam. Such will be blocked at once."
In case of this particular type of propaganda, I shall intervene not only
in
case it gets disturbing because of volume, but because it's somewhat
unpleasant. Possibly appearing writers of stuff which I find to be of that
type
will be given a warning, publicly on the list for all others to see - not
kicked out at once, since I want to avoid any mistake of judgment on my
part.
All others on the list need to see what's going on, so as to be able to
judge
forthemselves.
If the writer doesn't heed that warning, a second will follow, and if, and
only
if, that too goes unheeded, then I shall (figuratively, alluding to an
incident
that did take place during WW II - "off-Net" ofcourse since there wasn't
even
any Net then) take him/her/it out on a trip in a fi****ng boat in Öresund
(the
Sound) between Malmö, Sweden, (from where I'm writing) and København,
Denmark,
shoot him/her/it in the back and dump him/her/it overboard, for some fish
food.
Or concretely, kick that body off the list.
"Off-Net" there of course still do exist some small miserable cliques of
Nazi
swine in the world, certainly an unpleasant phenomenon that at worst can
kill
some people too, and already has done so in the last few years, here in
Sweden
for instance, but on the whole, nothing to be particularly afraid of and a
phenomenon caused by the imperialists' rule which has that positive
quality too
that it serves to unite practically everybody against that particular
instrument of the bourgeoisie's. In an earlier NWBC item, NWBC 330 from
30.11.2007, I brought some details about a successful action where this
showed
up, in the city of Lund not far from Malmö, on 30.11.1992, with a picture
of it
too from a newspaper, at http://sydsvenskan.se/kultur/article283500.ece.
That day in 1992 was one of rare triumph for the people locally here,
helped
not least by some activists from neighbouring Denmark, since for once, it
managed to defeat the forces sent by the reactionary bourgeois regime in
this
country, who had as their mission to help the minimal clique of Nazi scum
march
through central Lund, but that turned out to be impossible. And from that
point
on, the enemies of the people had to cease that small nasty "tradition" of
theirs in our part of the country and the world altogether.
There was a similar event earlier in Göteborg too, Sweden's second-largest
city, on 03.12.1983, an action in which I likewise, then by chance, got
the
op****tunity to take part, and in which everybody was lustily shouting
"Nassesvin, nassesvin!" (the kids' word for "pig" in Swedish, "gris" or
"svin",
happening to be "nasse", which got to be that for "Nazi" too) while a
small
clique of such were shoved away, prevented from holding a "meeting" which
their
governmental masters had prepared.
Of course the Net too, including the MM list, will always be an "operating
field" also for some fascist type forces. But those openly-appearing kinds
of
them, not even "dressed-up" in some phony"leftist" or phony"Marxist" cover
garments, will be warmly welcomed too by practically everybody, I think,
as a
good op****tunity for some nice skull-ba****ng - I mean, as far as the Net
is
concerned, figuratively speaking, of course.
"worldfascist", "worldfascist", that's not only a "funny" name plus
address in
the meaning of "unpleasant", but in me at least, and I hope in many
others, it
also evokes some pleasant memories of one big victory for the peoples in
the
world in 1945, and for instance of some joint shouting of "Nassesvin,
nassesvin!" here in our North European part of it.
_____________________
Message posted by:
Rolf Martens
Malmö, Sweden
Phone and fax:
+46 - 40 - 124832;
rolf.martens@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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