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A mail to MF and others: Let's send our protest petition to the government of Pakistan soon

by rolf.martens@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolf Martens) Jan 23, 2008 at 05:04 PM

At my homepage www.rolf-martens.com I've added today, under "News with
brief 
comments":


Wednesday, 23 January 2008 (NWBC 341) A mail to MF and others:  Let's send
our 
protest petition 
to the government of Pakistan soon

2008-01-23, 14:50 GMT:

I've recently sent the following e-mail,

[QUOTE:]

From:
Rolf Martens <rolf.martens@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
 
Date:
Wed., 23 January 2008 14.41 GMT
 
To:
marxist front <marxistfront@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
 
Cc:
modern_marxism@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Bcc:
(Undisclosed recipients)
 
Subject:
Let's send to the Pakistan govt. soon our petition, though it didn't "take
off" 
- what do you say?
 
 
Hello marxist front <marxistfront@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, 

and also Alexander, Stig, Norma, Charles, David and Amal,

I think it's suitable that we now soon send to the government of Pakistan
our 
Internet petition, directed to that government,

Stop Crackdown on Democratic Forces in Pakistan,

at http://www.petitiononline.com/CraDoPak/petition.html.

What do you, co-creator marxist front (respectively, your group), say
about 
this? And what's the advice, if any, of you other signatories? (I can be 
reached at <rolf.martens@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>.)

I'm sending this intention/suggestion of mine publicly too - our petition
of 
course already is a public one - not only to the Modern Marxism list (at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modern_marxism/)
which is noted at the
website of 
the petition itself as the "origin" of us its creators, "MF, RM" - but
also for 
instance to the Pakistan-based mailing list at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cmkp_pk/,
for perhaps some advice from
people 
there.

If you agree, MF, and if nobody else has a serious and well-founded
objection, 
I shall send it, with all signatures, to that Musharraf etc gang on
Friday, 25 
January.

True enough, we didn't set up any end date for signing (or a planned date
for 
submitting), when this petition of ours was created on 10 January, saying:

"We the undersigned strongly condemn the crackdown on democratic forces in

Pakistan by the government of that country, about which we have been
informed 
on 09 January 2008, and demand that this stop immediately."

And we so far are only 8 signatories, and it doesn't look as if there's
going 
to be many more soon either. That is, this petition has not "taken off",
so to 
speak, in the manner that I at least had hoped perhaps might be possible.

But I think that a sending off, now soon, and making this public, may have
some 
small positive effect anyway.

It will show that in other countries, there are at least some people who
are 
rather well-informed about the situation in Pakistan and take a keen
interest 
in it and very much want to sup****t the Pakistani people in their
struggle.

There obviously is no point in our waiting, I think. And we cannot really 
desist altogether from sending the petition. That would be unfair, in my 
opinion, to those others who have signed it (and whom I'm addressing now
too). 
Their (your) contributions, in such a case, would have come to naught.

A kind of "argument" saying, "Look, here it shows up that the Pakistanis
only 
have 8 or so friends in all other countries in the world", that would be
false 
and even ridiculous, I hold. Firstly, because our resources for making
this 
petition known, all over the world, have been and still are very small.
This 
all others who see it will understand or guess is a fact too.

Secondly, because of the thing I mentioned above here: There is, joined 
together of some people from India, Sweden, France, the USA and Malaysia,
at 
least - I happen to know some of you others more or less well - a kind of 
"international iron gang", I think it may be called without our boasting
too 
much, who's observing that crackdown in Pakistan, which obviously still is

going on, and who absolutely is opposing it. 


On some earlier experience (this I want to add, for helping sup****t what
I'm 
saying above; it's going to be rather long and only indirectly relevant,
so if 
you don't have much time or much interest in those other political
questions 
which this will mainly deal with, just skip the rest of this message):

I want to mention to you all that I on my part have a little experience
with 
such petitions, having been in on the creating of two such before (both of
them 
in Swedish, as it happens). Both of them got only relatively few
signatories 
too, but I think that both of them did do some good anyway. 

Although this was some years ago and those petitions with their signatures
long 
since have been sent to their target (in both cases the Swedish
authorities), 
they still today can be found on the Net.


On one earlier petition, and its context:

The first was/is the petition at 
http://www.petitiononline.com/RelMSeek/petition.html,
"Frige Mijail
Mijailovic, 
25! Efterspana Anna Lindhs mördare! [Release Mijail Mijailovic, 25! Search
for 
Anna Lindh's murderer!]", as it says, also in English, at its top.

It was created in November 2003 by Yvonne B. Smith, of Scottsdale,
Arizona, the 
USA(!) (an otherwise quite "unpolitical" Swedish-origin woman, married in
the 
USA), and me, in November, 2003 (we thus formed a kind of "trans-Atlantic 
united front", consisting of all of 2 people), and sent to the Swedish 
authorities in February 2004. 

The background was that the Foreign Minister of Sweden, Anna Lindh, had
been 
assassinated in Stockholm on 10.09.2003. (By the CIA, it was possible to 
calculate, with rather great certainty, though of course we didn't say
anything 
about possible actual perpetrator(s) in our petition.) She was stabbed in
her 
belly, by somebody obviously trained to kill people in that way, in a 
department store, the NK, in central Stockholm, in the middle of the day,
with 
dozens of witnesses close by, and could not be saved at the hospital
either but 
died the next day. Before she lost consciousness, she got time to say,
loudly 
enough for several people to hear: "Of course it [the stabbing of her] was

political!" (And guess, others, how many mass media in Sweden there were
who at 
any time re****ted that statement. Yes, probably all of you will have
gotten 
that number right.)

At one Internet forum, there was discussion by some people about this
atrocity 
and enormous event, here in supposedly "peaceful" Sweden, because really 
everybody, in our country at least, could see that the "official story",
yelled 
out by all the mass media, about "no doubt a lone madman", could not
possibly 
be true, and that the eventually arrested, and "main", scapegoat, Mijail 
Mijailovic (who was already scapegoat No. 2; the first person whom the 
miserably, incredibly long-tongued US-imperialism-bootlicking
"authorities" 
here arrested and tried to "hang" this assassination on had to be
released, 
after no more than two weeks), could not possibly have had anything [I
wrote by 
mistake, "nothing"- sorry about that] to do with that murder.

In was in the course of this Internet discussion, in Swedish, that Yvonne
B. 
Smith, in the USA, and I, here in Malmö, Sweden "met" and formed our
perhaps 
not impressively large, personell-wise, united front. (But what I want to
say 
with this added part of this posting of mine too, about earlier
experience, is 
that sometimes, "a single spark kan cause a prarie fire", or "a snowball
can 
cause an avalanche" - or well, OK, something of a start of one, at least.)
That 
petition got only 73 signatures, as you can see for yourselves, and
perhaps you 
can also see that most of them were added by some ill-intentioned
saboteur(s) 
too, pretending to be "Napoleon" or people like that, and in many cases 
actually being vilifications directed against us who had created this
petition. 
Only 22 of the signatures were obviously genuine, as I wrote when sending
in 
that petition too.

And I think that it was the experience concerning that petition (perhaps,
among 
others) in part having been sabotaged that made the PetitionOnline
community 
soon change their rules for hosting such, so that from 2004 on, this kind
of 
sabotage is being prevented. 

What happened, then, with the "investigation", here in Sweden, of that
murder 
of the Foreign Minister here in 2003, and with the arrested scapegoat?
Well, 
that scapegoat, maintaining his innocence, was "cooked" in prison for
three 
months, repeatedly lied to by the interrogating police (and probably by
his 
"defence lawyer" too), that the "evidence against him" was "overwhelming",
and 
that he thus "could just as well confess", in order to "save his family
etc 
further embarrasment", since he "would have no chance in court anyway".

"Never mind" that one police spokesman already on the day of the stabbing
had 
said that the perpetrator had "acted coolly", had "known what he was
doing", 
that "this was not an act of madness". 

"Never mind" that a certain person, who had been videophotographed  by 
surveillance cameras in the department store in question as walking around

aimlessly on the floor above that where Anna Lindh was stabbed, minutes
before 
it, those tapes later being shown again and again on Swedish television,
and 
the person in question, soon publicly known as "the NK man", "identified"
(also 
quite absurdly) by the police as the scapegoat (No. 2), Mijail Mijailovic,
had 
been dressed in a manner completely different from that of the person who
did 
stab Anna Lindh (as no less than 14 witnesses testified to, according to
the 
police investigation re****t itself - relevant parts of which did become 
["theoretically"] public, in January 2004; only, not one of the mass media
ever 
re****ted on those statements by those 14 witnesses, nor were any of those 
persons ever called to testify in any of the three - kangaroo! - courts in
2004 
summarily declaring the scapegoat "guilty" after 2½ days(!) of
"proceedings" in 
each of them).

"Never mind" that the police even secured the hand prints of the actual 
perpetrator, both of his right and of his left hand, and that these - of
course 
- did not match those of the scapegoat (No. 2) at all either (something
which 
all the persons involved in the "legal" proceedings and all the mass media

managed to "forget" too).

"Never mind" that the scapegoat even had an alibi, supplied by members of
his 
family. (This not mentioned, though, in the public part of the later
police 
"re****t".)

On 06 January 2004, that scapegoat finally had gotten pressured
"sufficiently" 
for him to "confess".

And what do you think that a couple of ministers in this country, Sweden, 
namely, the prime minister, Göran Persson, and the minister of justice,
Thomas 
Bodström, did in connection with this? They both made public
statements[!!] 
concerning this supposedly "legal" affair, both saying that they "were
relieved 
at"[!!] that "confession" - that is, they publicly "instructed" the courts
here 
how to decide in this case!

Now there is some recent experience in Pakistan, I've heard and read, with
such 
matters, in the form of Musharraf's having illegally "deposed" some judges
in 
im****tant institutions.

But those who might think that such things are "unknown" for instance here
in 
Sweden, with its likewise bourgeois dictator****p, or that the politicians
here 
perhaps are any "less" crooked or any less closely connected with that
"Big 
Brother" of all bourgeoisie in the world, than those in Pakistan,
absolutely 
should think again. 

True enough, the conditions here in Sweden, for ordinary people, may be
better, 
in some respects, than those for the people in Pakistan - obviously, on
the 
whole, a better standard of living (and "only" a few thousands of homeless

people here), which is due, not least, to the fact that Sweden is among
the 
exploiting countries in the world and Pakistan, for instance, is among
those 
exploited, and the conditions concerning the right of free speech no doubt

considerably better too - rights which have been won, not least, due to
the 
long fight of the working-class movement here in Europe, and which the 
bourgeoisie here in Sweden too constantly are trying to infringe on. (The 
present prime minister here, Reinfeldt, or "Hesa Fredrik", recently said,
for 
instance, that "of course, the government must be given the right to spy
on 
each and every telephone and Internet communication here", and this "not
least 
in order to protect our [flagrantly illegally dispatched, and aggressor]
troops 
in Afghanistan". (Today, some 
350.)

To sum up a little about the earlier "Lindh petition", I think and hope
that 
its very existence on the Net, earlier and even today, may help some
people get 
some more information about some "not at all very nice" things which
actually 
are going on, in part "under the surface", in such country as Sweden.


Do some of you others find this "aside" of mine, on some earlier
experience in 
connection with petitions, "too long"? Well, those who want to can skip it
of 
course anyway, but I want to go on a little, about the other earlier one
that I 
was in on too.


On a second earlier petition, and some of its context:

That was/is the petition which you can still today find on the Net too, 
likewise directed to Swedish Authorities, at:

http://www.petitiononline.com/SaveBbNP/petition.html.

It says, as you can see:

"Stäng inte Barsebäck 2! ****a angripa kärnkraftverken! [Don't shut down 
Barsebäck 2! Stop attacking the nuclear power plants!]"

It was created, as shows up at the bottom of its website, in October 2004,
by 
the Committee Save Barsebäck (which since April 2005 has a website of its
own 
too, at http://www.save-nukeplant-barsebaeck.com/).
And probably also 
non-Swedish-readers can make out that co-writers of its (actual) petition
text 
and (added) information text were two of us who now have signed the
petition 
against the crackdown on democratic forces in Pakistan, namely, Stig Ek
and 
myself. 

(You, Stig, by the way - this perhaps might interest some others too - of 
course are also one of the founding members of our Lindh Committee here in

Sweden, created in March 2004 for investigating further that assassination
of 
the [of course bourgeois] Foreign Minister of this country and for helping

justice be done concerning it. That committee of ours so far has no
website but 
at least an e-mail address, <lindh_committee@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>. There also is a

mailing list, created by me, at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mordetpalindh/.)

That Don't Shut Down Barsebäck 2 petition - set up when it was not
possible to 
sabotage it in the way the earlier Lindh petition was, since the
PetitionOnline 
community had then already changed its rules so as to prevent such - got
631 
signatures. This was rather few too, considering that at least some 90% of
all 
the 9 million people living in Sweden were strongly opposed to the
government's 
seemingly quite mad and crazy plan to shut down that big and quite 
well-functioning nuclear power reactor, which was providing 3% of all 
electricity here in Sweden. 

(Whose building, incidentally, I even can see, across the Lomma Bay, from
the 
beach here in Malmö - it's also on a photograph at our website's main
page. 
Btw, perhaps some of us present signatories, having been convinced by
certain 
stories in the media, on TV etc, concerning the question of nuclear power,

disagree with Stig, David and me on this particular point, and hold it was
"a 
good thing" for most of us in the Malmö region to "get rid of" that plant.
If 
so, my lines here below won't help convince you of the positive nature of
that 
particular petition, then. But it's clear that all of us are not in
agreement 
on all possible other questions anyway, and anybody can just stop reading
my 
message from this point on, of course.)

Unfortunately, that very im****tant plant here in Sweden was shut down
anyway, 
by those criminal and, as I already wrote, miserably and incredibly 
long-tongued US-imperialism-bootlicking bourgeois politicians here - in
this 
respect, clearly even much worse than any "Mush" etc in Pakistan for
instance, 
where the bourgeoisie at least is smart enough to keep a few nuclear
weapons 
too, which also helps the people against such ideas or plans as we know
those 
"Big-Big-Brother" s***bags in the world - the ones who in fact "ordered"
the 
shutdown of Barsebäck too - are always hatching in their miserable swine
heads: 
"Now we need to send some troops, and a few war****ps and/or
fighter-bombers or 
helicopter gun****ps, etc, to this country or that one, in order to help
keep 
the peace there, you know." (Just a small further aside here, concerning 
"nookular" policies of some various bourgeoisies.)

What I wanted to say concerning this is, that, hopefully, also the still 
remaining Barsebäck petition on the Net may have had and still has a
certain 
positive at least informative effect - difficult to say how big, of
course.

And, once more, if you or others don't object, MF, I shall send our
petition 
with signatures to the "Mush" people on Friday, 25 January.

Rolf

(rolf.martens@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)


_____________________

Message posted by:
Rolf Martens
Malmö, Sweden
Phone and fax:
+46 - 40 - 124832;
rolf.martens@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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