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UNITE! Info #313en: Reply to Charles, on how we *can* ascertain some things in far-away China

by rolf.martens@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolf Martens) Mar 29, 2008 at 12:55 PM

UNITE! Info #313en:  Reply to Charles, on how we *can* ascertain some
things in 
far-away China
[Posted: 29.03.2008]

Note: The "UNITE! (etc) Info" posting series (1995-) advocates the
political 
line of Marx, Lenin and Mao Zedong. For all items, see
www.rolf-martens.com.
 
 

 
Hello Charles F. Moreira <cfm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,

And please brace yourself now for another one of some pretty *long*
replies 
from me! Long, this time too, because I want to show you and others some 
"tricks", so to speak, which I think it's quite im****tant, for Marx
adherents, 
to know about, in the first place, and not all that difficult to
"perform", or 
learn to "perform", either, in the second.

I'm making this reply, as you see, an item in my "UNITE! Info" series,
because 
of that general interest which I think that the question which you raised
has.


Here goes:

You wrote, to the mailing list MLL (at 
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxist-leninist-list),
on
Thu., 28 
March 2008 at 07:54 GMT, subject "Re: At present, much more fun over at
the 
list MLL!" (compared to the MM list created by me, at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modern_marxism/,
I meant by that subject
line 
which I had introduced), among other things something which I shall soon
quote.

I just want to mention first that by that "much more fun" I was referring
to a 
certain small but quite instructive "dogfight" which was then, from 24.03
on, 
taking place also at that mailing list, MLL, which I too later have joined
in a 
little and concerning which I've promised to make a more detailed comment.
But 
this I'm deferring somewhat now, in favour of first writing this reply to
you - 
who wrote,

[QUOTE:]

However, what I actually meant by that is, strategies and tactics have to
be 
decided by communists on location and based on local conditions and not
just 
from a remote view based on re****ts.

For example, in this 
http://www.rolf-martens.com/UNITE%21%20Infos/webstyle1/unite_info_288en.html

article, "Conflict among desperate Chinese revisionists," Rolf writes:-

"This "Open Letter" is a clear sign of how very hard pressed are all those

traitors to socialism in China, the new exploiters and really fascist-type

oppressors there, by the vast majority of people in China, and by the vast

majority of people on the whole globe too. It's a sign of how desperate
their 
situation already is, despite their regime's being massively sup****ted and
held 
under its arms by all the forces of international imperialism."

OK! The people writing this are members of the Communist Party of China
but how 
can Rolf, me, you or most people on this list be absolutely sure that they
are 
not honest communists trying to reverse this pro-capitalist policy from
within 
the party. Only they will know whether it's still possible to do so or
whether 
there's no[t] alternative but to split from the party and begin from
scratch 
with a new proletarian party, which could most likely be crushed by the
Chinese 
state.

That's what I mean by ground-level understanding.

[END OF QUOTE]

In fact, both you, I and the others on the list MLL, for instance, too
*can* be 
absolutely sure that those persons in question in China by no means were 
communists, that is, persons really trying to represent the common
interests of 
the vast majority of people both in China itself and on this planet as a
whole. 
For this, we (to begin with) only need to have some knowledge of Marxism,
at a 
sufficiently high level.

A very high, advanced level would that have to be, perhaps, or just a 
relatively modest one?

A relatively modest one, I on my part think. Though of course, what may be

called a such, that's a question that could be debated too. Unfortunately 
today, there seem to be relatively few people around (among those whose 
writings you can see on the Internet, at least) who do have even what I'd
call 
"a modest-level knowledge of Marxism". By which statement of mine you can
infer 
of course that I think that I on my part do have (at least) a such.

Was I right or was I wrong, then, in my claiming to be able really to 
*ascertain*, from afar (from here in Malmö, Sweden), that those persons
whom 
we're discussing were/are no communists at all, but certainly were/are 
revisionists, bourgeois adversaries of the vast majority of people?

The persons we're discussing were/are some relatively high-ranking members
of 
the present-day "Communist Party of China" who (re****tedly) on 12.07.2007
wrote 
a certain "Open Letter", according to a message to this list, MLL, on 
09.08.2007, in which that "Open Letter" was reproduced in full (which was
one 
of several things that have been good about this mailing list - you know
I've 
criticized some other and later appearing qualities of it), and more
vaguely 
re****ted on in some of the big reactionary mass media too.

That "Open Letter" I reproduced in full too, copying it from MLL, in that
Info 
#288en of mine, likewise of 09.08.2007, which you referred to.

"Communists", were those persons? Never on your life. And how can you
others 
too, on this list MLL, for instance, see that? Well, that's really
elementary, 
my dear Watsons and Watdaughters.

OK, a little "chestbeating" of mine is implied  here. I really do think
it's 
fun sometimes at least to pretend I'm "Sherlock"! But the serious side of
this 
is, that "Sherlock", on such matters, this really everyone of you others
can be 
too, or at least develop into, with not all that much effort - in case you
want 
to be a such, that is!


SIMPLE TRICK 1: READING A DO***ENT SOMEWHAT CAREFULLY

In this case there really *was* enough of information "on the ground",
from 
over there in China, for an *****sment of mine, from here on the other
side of 
the globe, to be pretty much 100% certain. This in combination with that
which 
since long is well-known, at the hand of the writings of the "classical" 
Marxists, concerning the correct strategy and tactics for the proletariat 
*globally*, applying to *all* countries in the world.


SIMPLE TRICKS 2 AND 3: STUDYING SOME MARXIST LITERATURE, AND LEARNING SOME

HISTORY (IF AVAILABLE - IF NOT, AT LEAST TRYING TO DIG SOME UP)

That information consisted of some things in that "Open Letter" which
everybody 
of course could see. For processing it, you only need (needed) one of
those 
"telescopes" which Mao Zedong has written that the Marxist method provide,

concerning some matters which perhaps are not "clearly visible to the
****d 
eye" (meaning, that instrument that you already are equipped with before
you've 
begun to learn some Marxism).

Well, plus some background information about the more recent history of
China 
and of the CPC in that country (since some 30+ years back, say). And yes,
it 
must be admitted that this commodity too - like many other vital ones, for
Marx 
adherents - today is in pretty short supply, globally. But digging up some
such 
stuff, that doesn't really require all that much of "blood, sweat and
tears" 
either.

"Now will you finally come to the point?", I already hear you saying.

Yes, the "most direct" such comes here - my introductory stuff having been

included for certain purposes of "trick showing" too, anyway.


THREE THINGS IN THAT "OPEN LETTER" IN CHINA OF 13.07.2007 WHICH CLEARLY
*PROVE* 
THAT ITS AUTHORS WERE/ARE *NOT* COMMUNISTS

As I already wrote about in my Info #288en,

[QUOTE, from that Info:]

The persons who signed that "Open Letter" even pretended, in it, to be 
"adherents of Marxism-Leninism Mao Zedong Thought". They of course are not

that, as can clearly be seen in that do***ent of theirs. If they were,
they 
would be calling for the overthrow of the revisionist, fascist regime in
China 
[That's proof point A, I want to add now, Charles] - and such a just and 
necessary call in the conditions now reigning there of course can only be 
disseminated "underground" and at the risk of most severe persecution.
Most 
probably such calls have already been put forward in China too, perhaps in
many 
places there, but the imperialists, to whom sup****t of the present 
arch-reactionary regime in China is vital, of course are doing  everything
they 
can to prevent any such from becoming known to the m***** of people in
other 
countries.

[END OF QUOTE]

You in your criticism of that Info discussed this question too, Charles -
that 
of creating or trying to create a new, actually proletarian revolutionary,

party in China. This by your saying (see above),

"Only they [those rather high-ranking members of the present-day "CPC",
you 
clearly meant, about whom I had written that they could certainly not be 
communists - RM] will know whether it's still possible to do so or whether

there's no[t] alternative but to split from the party and begin from
scratch 
with a new proletarian party, which could most likely be crushed by the
Chinese 
state."

Here you made *two errors* of *****sment which I think it's rather easy to
see 
were errors:

*Firstly*, that "only" those persons - some rather highly-placed ones in
that 
"CPC" of today - would know whether or not it was necessary to create, try
to 
create, a new and really Marxist-Leninist party in China.

Of course it must have been seen, since many years back in fact and much
more 
clearly too than by some "bighshots" in the "CPC" in 2007, by quite many
people 
in China (and even not so few in other countries too), that this *was/is* 
absolutely necessary.

Here comes in one point concerning those persons mentioned in your posting

which I didn't, all that expressly at least, state in that Info #288en of
mine:

At the time of their writing that "Open Letter", in July 2007, the CPC had

already been a revisionist, bourgeois, very reactionary party, even much
of a 
*fascist-type* one, since *close to 30 (thirty) years back* - since
December 
1978 at the very latest. Obviously, *no* actual communists who perhaps had
been 
members of the CPC since before that time could possibly have remained in
that 
party in 2007 - if possible, even less, in high-ranking positions in it.
Had 
any such remained in/after late 1978, they would very quickly have been
purged 
already around that time, of course. In case they *had* wanted to stay in
it, 
in the first place.

And *secondly*, your saying that a new (and actually) proletarian party
"most 
likely would be crushed" by the Chinese state - as if there was/is "no"
hope 
for any such at all - that clearly is wrong too. Of course the
difficulties for 
a such, and even for some smaller single party group(s) in one or several 
locations in the enormous China, were and are horrendous. And for people 
outside of it, it's practically impossible to know anything about such
things. 
Any Internet emission about such a thing coming from somewhere inside
China of 
course would immediately have alerted a police/military "SWAT team" which
would 
soon be on its way to arrest or kill everybody as much as close to the
computer 
from which it was coming. But actually "impossible" is not such party 
organization anyway. It's known, for instance, that each year, there are
over 
300 more or less spontaneous peasant (etc) uprisings in China. Some
initial 
party (group) construction might get protection from some mass forces
among the 
people in connection with such movements.

At any rate: Any person in China who was as much as "half communist", so
to 
speak, already around the end of 1978, if not even a year or more earlier,

*must* have seen the obvious fact that the CPC was then a *bourgeois*
party. He 
or she could not have avoided being perfectly aware of Mao Zedong's - in
China 
even more than here in Sweden, say - well-known saying: "The coming to
power of 
revisionism means the coming to power of the bourgeoisie".

He or she could not have been unaware of the massive purges of actual 
communists in the CPC from November1976 on - under the pretext then of 
"combating" the (true enough, very reactionary and harmful phony"left")
4-gang, 
the defeat of which, in October 1976, had indeed been a very good thing -
only 
that im****tant victory for the people had later gotten to be misused and
turned 
around by that other and bigger group of enemies of theirs which was led
by 
Deng Xiaoping, so that already from November 1976 on, actual communists in

China were being purged from the CPC, under the pretext of "weeding out
4-gang 
sup****ters".

He or she could hardly have been unaware either of that longtime
experience, in 
the Marxist-Leninist movement in the whole world, that when a formerly 
Marxist-Leninist party, such as that in China, gets taken over by
revisionists 
(somethings which of course gets the massive sup****t of all the ruling 
reactionary bourgeois cliques in other countries too), that taking-over,
as a 
general rule at least, is irreversible - such a party then cannot made to 
become a Marxist-Leninist party once more.

He or she must have known very well that which Deng Xiaoping himself, that
big 
traitor and, in that time - November 1976 to late 1978 - emerging
revisionist 
dictator (more or less) of China, had said back in 1974, when he was still
a 
representative of socialist, revolutionary China, as its representative at
the 
UN General Assembly then, in a rightly also internationally famous speech
on 
10.04.1974 (see my Info #011en, part 2/2),

[QUOTE:]

If capitalism is restored in a big socialist country, it will inevitably
become 
a superpower. The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, which has been
carried 
out in China in recent years, and the campaign of criticizing Lin Piao and

Con****ius now under way throughout China, are both aimed at preventing 
capitalist restauration and ensuring that socialist China will never
change her 
colour but will always stand by the oppressed peoples and oppressed
nations.

If one day China should change her colour and turn into a superpower, if
she 
too should play the tyrant in the world, and everywhere subject others to
her 
bullying, aggression and exploitation, the people of the world should
identify 
her as social-imperialism, expose it, oppose it and work together with the

Chinese people to overthrow it.

[END OF QUOTE]

Please note, Charles, that the - then - representative of socialist China
(and 
later traitor, of course, but that's less relevant here) expressly turned
to 
"the people of the world", to people also *outside of* China, with a
suggestion 
of what *they* (too) should do, in case things "went wrong" in that
country. 
(I'm guessing that this was included in that speech at the initiative of
Mao 
Zedong, above all.) 

Compare this to something which *you* wrote, in your "criticism of" my
Info 
#288en (see above)

"However, what I actually meant by that is, strategies and tactics have to
be 
decided by communists on location and based on local conditions and not
just 
from a remote view based on re****ts."

This contains the idea that the bloody strategies "have to" be decided by
some 
goddamn communists "on location", and "based on" the goddamn "local" 
conditions. Concerning strategy, you suggested, the communists in each
country 
- or in each city?, each town?, each village, perhaps? - "have to" figure
out 
things quite on their own, and based on "local conditions"; they "should"
think 
and act, in fact, much like some kind of "local yokels".

Of course his is a very wrong idea, Charles. Contrary to this, the Marx 
adherents instead need to use:

SIMPLE TRICK 4: HAVING HEARD EITHER ONE OF THE CALLS "PROLETARIANS IN ALL 
COUNTRIES, UNITE!" (MARX AND ENGELS) AND "PROLETARIANS IN ALL COUNTRIES
AND 
OPPRESSED PEOPLES, UNITE!" (LENIN), OR PERHAPS BOTH, AND UNDERSTANDING AT
LEAST 
APPROXIMATELY WHAT THEY MEAN

This "unite!"stuff which is common to both of those calls means, among
other 
things, that the *strategies* of the proletariat need to be *global*, 
preferably discussed and agreed on globally, or at least as widely, 
geographically, as only possible. Precisely that was the point of those
earlier 
existing proletarian, or workers', *Internationals* too, of course - 
irrespective of that unfortunate fact that all three of them, the 1st, the
2nd 
and the 3rd, afters some years vanished, respectively turned rather bad.

*Tactics*, yes, in the main do have to be decided on by the communists on 
location, and to be based on local conditions. But the strategies need to
be, 
as far as possible, precisely global.

And there was an added "criticism point" of yours here to, to the effect
that 
neither the strategies nor the tactics should be decided on "*just*" from
a 
remote view based on re****ts. As if I would have suggested, for instance,
that  
the tactics of proletarian class struggle in China should decided on
"just" by 
some people here in Sweden, or vice versa. This of course I've never done.

Further, concerning the possibility of there perhaps there being some 
communists, perhaps even in some high-ranking positions, in the CPC in
2007: 
Could any such have wanted to join that then completely revisionist,
actually 
fascist-type, party, after 1978. And if so, would they have been allowed
in? 
No, on both counts. Of this we can be certain too.

Or don't you agree on this, Charles? Now I don't want to accuse you of
having 
such an utterly primitive idea, since I don't know how this is with you,
but in 
my experience some people, even some who are not quite unfamiliar with
Marxism, 
have seemed to be thinking, that if a party still carries that proud name
of 
"Communist", still goes under the red flag, then it "*cannot possibly*" be
led 
and controlled by some *utterly fascist s****. This is very wrong, of
course. 
The thing with which to avoid such thinking is:


SIMPLE TRICK NUMBER 5: KNOWING THAT OLD FAIRYTALE "LITTLE RED RIDING
HOOD", AND 
UNDERSTANDING THE CORRECTNESS OF THE MAIN PRINCIPLE WHICH IT CONTAINS

At the Internet, you can find that fairytale for instance, I've seen, at 
http://www.longlongtimeago.com/llta_fairytales_redridinghood.html,
from
which 
website I've also learned that it's from as far back as 1597, and then was
told 
in French. As many know, the "heroine" of that fairytale is making some 
observations in what may be called a materialistic, even a
Marxist-Leninist, 
way. Seeing that the creature lying there on the bed, true enough, is
dressed 
in Grandma's clothes, she notes, initially, that "Grandma's" general
appearance 
this day is rather different from her usual, and first thinks and says,
"You 
must be really ill!" Further she goes on to note some clear discrepancies:

"What big ears you have!", "What big nose!" and "What big ears you have, 
Grandma!" 

As is known to many too, she at that point however, before having gone on
to 
the observation "What big teeth you have, Grandma!", when it's already too

late, makes the mistake of deviating from the actually materialistic, or 
Marxist-Leninist, line. Already her quite correct first four observations 
should have convinced Little Red Riding Hood, that, in the concrete
tactical 
situation of her, rather naturally, not having taken with her for instance
a 
sharp knife with which, otherwise, she could have slit the throat of that 
obviously non-Grandma and probably quite dangerous creature - it was in
fact 
the Wolf! - lying there on the same bed as did formerly Grandma, or a
baseball 
bat which which to bash in that creature's skull, she should of course
have 
made a tem****ary retreat in order, above all, to call for some backup. Now

luckily enough, sufficient such happened to arrive a little later anyway,
in 
the form of a woodcutter, who had experience with this type of creatures
and 
who cut up the Wolf's tummy, liberating both Grandma and Little Red Riding
Hood 
herself, who had both been gobbled up by that camouflaged, (to speak in 
present-day or yesterday terms: social-imperialist), Wolf, from their 
totally-oppressed predicament. 

The fairytale ends, quite materialistically too, with both of those
earlier 
gobbled-up making some contributions too to the continued anti-Wolf
struggle, 
by helping the woodcutter place some big stones into its tummy and then
sewing 
that tummy up, so that the Wolf finally understands that "humans don't
agree 
with him" and runs away, never to be heard of again - in short, there at
last 
is complete victory for the (actual) humans.

In real and more contem****ary life, the already then longtime CPC chairman
Mao 
Zedong in 1964 handled a similar problem in an of course much more
experienced 
and perspicacious way than that which could reasonably be expected of a
quite 
young girl in a fairytale of hundreds of years ago, and said (as noted in
"Some 
Interjections At A Briefing In The State Planning Commission Leading
Group, May 
11, 1964):

"The Soviet Union today is a dictator****p of the bourgeoisie, a
dictator****p of 
the grand bourgeoisie, a fascist German dictator****p, and a Hitlerite 
dictator****p. They are a bunch of rascals worse than De Gaulle."


DIFFICULT FOR AT LEAST VERY MANY, OUTSIDE OF CHINA, TO SEE WHAT ACTUALLY
"WENT 
DOWN" THERE, IN 1976-1978

What could have made you write such bull**** (sorry!) as that "question"
of 
yours (see above):

"OK! The people writing this are members of the Communist Party of China
but 
how can Rolf, me, you or most people on this list be absolutely sure that
they 
are not honest communists trying to reverse this pro-capitalist policy
from 
within the party." - ?

Perhaps in part it was due to an ignorance of the principle demonstrated,
for 
instance, by that old fairytale which I mentioned. But to a larger or more

im****tant part, I'm guessing, it was because you, Charles (as I must
assume), 
are *totally ignorant* of the recent history of China (since some 30+
years 
back), and of that of the CPC in particular - your knowing *absolutely 
nothing*, *zero*, *zilch* about this - that you today, now quite recently,

could dream of the possibility of there remaining some *communists*, for 
chrissake, in the "CPC", *in 2007* - even in rather high-ranking positions
then 
in that party.

Pretty sharp words of mine are these, do you think? But they are, quite in
the 
main, not intended as criticism of you. Even since the time, back in
1976-1978, 
of the overthrow - of socialism in China - and since even longer back, in
fact 
- the ruling really bigtime imperialists in the world (including, earlier,
the 
social-imperialists, of course) have done their "very best" to blanket out

*all* correct information, to people in other countries, about such things
in 
China, and have most massively disseminated misinformation about them -
this 
also together with quite a number of totally corrupt *phony*"Marxist"
parties 
of various kinds which, in actual fact, are and have been nothing but
utter 
puppets of theirs.

It therefore all the time has been quite difficult, for many people in a
large 
number of countries, to be anything but ignorant of these matters. So I'm
not 
blaming you very much, if you - still - are that.


MORE ON HOW THE "OPEN LETTER" AUTHORS IN 2007 SHOWED THAT THEY WERE NOT 
COMMUNISTS

In the above, I interrupted a quote from my Info #288en, in which I made a

couple of other points on this. It continues,

[QUOTE:]

The authors of the recent "Open Letter" in China are adherents and 
representatives of that regime too, for instance openly lauding that
infamous 
traitor to socialism in that country, even the main perpetrator of the 
overthrow of it, in 1976-78, Deng Xiaoping, calling for his - likewise 
arch-reactionary - policies to be followed [That was a point B of mine, 
Charles] and openly vilifying [That was my point C in that Info, proving
again 
that those persons certainly were no communists] that massive resistance 
against them by the people which was expressed in the countrywide 
demonstrations in May-June 1989.

[END OF QUOTE] 


SOME EXAMPLES, WHICH I HOPE ARE SOMEWHAT INSTRUCTIVE TOO, OF WHAT I, 
RESPECTIVELY SOME OTHERS, COULD SEE, RESPECTIVELY COULD NOT SEE,
CONCERNING THE 
THEN SOCIALIST CHINA, FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT(S) HERE IN EUROPE

But first a little on the necessity, for Marx adherents, no matter how
"lowly" 
or how few, always to *try* to ascertain for themselves how some im****tant

matters stand

In those, concerning vital Marxist-Leninist principles so excellent,
do***ents, 
precisely from China too, namely, those of the 10th Congress of the CPC in

August 1973 (now in their entirety at MIA, at 
http://marx.org/subject/china/do***ents/10_Cong.htm),
it among other
things was 
said, in the re****t by Wang Hongwen (later one of the infamous 4-gang
persons, 
but that's another matter) on the revision of the Constitution of the CPC,
some 
things about how also quite "ordinary", "lowly" members of the CPC should 
always act, concerning the question of that party's political line,


[QUOTE:]

"... In Point (1) under Article 3 concerning the requirements for Party
members 
and in Point (1) under Article 12 concerning the tasks of the primary
Party 
organisations, the words "criticise revisionism" have been added in
accordance 
with the views expressed by the worker, peasant and soldier comrades at
the 
forum held by the Peking Municipal Party Committee on the revision of the
Party 
Constitution as well as suggestions from some provinces and
municipalities. 
Revisionism remains the main danger today. To study Marxism and criticise 
revisionism is our long-term task for strengthening the building of our
Party 
ideologically.

Three. We must have the revolutionary spirit of daring to go against the
tide. 
Chairman Mao pointed out: Going against the tide is a Marxist-Leninist 
principle. During the discussions on the revision of the Party
Constitution, 
many comrades, reviewing the Party's history and their own experiences,
held 
that this was most im****tant in the two-line struggle within the Party. In
the 
early period of the democratic revolution, there were several occasions
when 
wrong lines held sway in our Party. In the later period of the democratic 
revolution and in the period of socialist revolution, when the correct
line 
represented by Chairman Mao has been predominant, there have also been
lessons 
in that certain wrong lines or wrong views were taken as correct for a
time by 
many people and sup****ted as such. The correct line represented by
Chairman Mao 
has waged resolute struggles against those errors and won out. When
confronted 
with issues that concern the line and the overall situation, a true
Communist 
must act without any selfish considerations and dare to go against the
tide, 
fearing neither removal from his post, expulsion from the Party,
imprisonment, 
divorce nor guillotine.

Of course, in the face of an erroneous trend there is not only the
question of 
whether one dares go against it but also that of whether one is able to 
distinguish it. Class struggle and the two-line struggle in the historical

period of socialism are extremely complex. When one tendency is covered by

another, many comrades often fall to note it. Moreover, those who intrigue
and 
conspire deliberately put up false fronts, which makes it all the more 
difficult to discern. Through discussion, many comrades have come to
realise 
that according to the dialectic materialist point of view, all objective
things 
are knowable. "The ****d eye is not enough, we must have the aid of the 
telescope and the microscope. The Marxist method is our telescope and 
microscope in political and military matters." So long as one diligently 
studies the works of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin and those of Chairman
Mao, 
takes an active part in the actual struggle and works hard to remould
one's 
world outlook, one can constantly raise the ability to distinguish genuine
from 
sham Marxism and differentiate between correct and wrong lines and views.

[END OF QUOTE] 

And this of course must be viewed and done not only within that already in

itself vast country, China, but also internationally. It had to be done,
by the 
Marx adherents in other countries than China too, back in that time when
China 
was still socialist and was such an enormously im****tant force in, and a
big 
beacon for, the proletarian revolution in the whole world.


*COULD* THINGS POSSIBLY "GO WRONG" IN CHINA?

On New Year's Eve/Day 1975-1976, some of my German then comrades in exile
here 
in Malmö, Sweden, and I, living in that two-story house (from 1910 or) so
at 
Bokgatan 12 which I already have mentioned in a recent other long reply to
you, 
Charles (see a posting to both the MM and the MLL lists), went out into
the 
street for a while to watch the fireworks. Klaus (that is, the chairman of
that 
then so advanced M-L party the "NE", Klaus Sender, as was his pseudonym;
it's 
under his real name, Hartmut Dicke, that he has been writing in recent
years - 
then since long, unfortunately, as a miserable traitor who really has
outdone 
both Trotsky and Lin Biao in this respect, because he was once so very
much 
more of an actual, im****tant Marxist than was ever any of those other two,
both 
of them so infamous internationally) said:

"Let's hope that the year 1976 won't be the one in which the big war
breaks 
out." And concerning this, he had already once said "If China turns 
revisionist, the war danger will increase very much". Something which, in 
itself, turned out actually to be wrong. But the very thought of China's 
perhaps going revisionist was one that I on my part, still rather
inexperienced 
politically, had not had in my head and really was quite reluctant - I
remember 
clearly - even to consider. Such a reluctance probably was and is not
untypical 
for rather many others too, I believe. The very possibility of your losing
an 
im****tant ally - in this case, it was such an enormous and excellent one
too - 
is something that you may not want to think about at all. This, I've later

guessed, perhaps was/is also one reason, at least, why some otherwise
rather 
sensible people  would stubbornly refuse to realize the of course obvious
fact 
of the earlier overthrow of socialism in the Soviet Union. It was one
small 
sign and expression of the genuinely Marxist standpoint of the Klaus
Sender of 
those days that he did not shy away from reflecting also on that very 
unpleasant possibility concerning China.

SOMETHING CORRECT - IT ABSOLUTELY SEEMED TO ME, AND ALSO TO MY THEN "NE" 
COMRADES - IN APRIL 1976. AND *IN THE MAIN*, IT WAS CORRECT TOO.

In the issue No. 16/1976 (16.04.1976) of the Peking Review - then still 
something of a "Bible" to me, in the sense that it had indeed so far been
right 
on more or less all the im****tant things in the world, but I was reading
it too 
uncritically - there was a big headline on its front page, "A Great
Victory", 
and information in several articles in it about two resolutions by the 
Political Bureau of the CC of the CPC, on 07.04.1976, firstly to appoint
Hua 
Guofeng First Vice Chairman of the CPC (thus in reality the prospective 
successor to Mao Zedong as Chairman, and it had been Mao himself  who had
made 
that proposal, back in February 1976; so far the PR was telling the truth
too), 
and secondly to dismiss Deng Xiaoping, already since several months back
under 
massive public criticism as, once more, a capitalist-roader of the
Rightist 
type, from all posts inside and outside the CPC.

This seemed to me - in so far as I could make any judgment at all on this
- to 
be two good decisions. My then "NE" comrades, earlier in exile here in
Malmö, 
at that time had gone back to Germany, and I learned over the telephone
and 
from publications of theirs that they had found both of those decisions by
the 
PB of the CC of the CPC to be good, and had sent a congratulatory message
to 
the CPC to that effect.
 

SO EVERTYHING WAS "HUNKY-DORY", THEN? NO!

The Politbureau of the CC of the CPC in this connection had also made one
quite 
serious error, and the Peking Review was now lying and fooling us on the
same 
point in question, something which neither I nor even the "NE" saw until a

rather long time afterwards.

This had to do with a certain very big gathering and (in part a little
violent) 
demonstration by the people on Tiananmen Square in Beijing on 05.04.1976.

The PB of the CC of the CPC and also the Peking Review etc wrongly said
that 
this had been "a counter-revolutionary incident". In reality, it was the
very 
opposite, namely, quite in the main a revolutionary demonstration against
the 
phony"leftist" 4-gang and in particular against its leader, Mao Zedong's
own 
wife Jiang Qing (Chiang Ching), against which group there during several
months 
to come too was no criticism in the Chinese media at all and concerning
which 
only some very few, within the CPC leader****p, knew about the already
quite 
sharp criticism directed against it by Mao Zedong at internal CPC meetings
from 
(at least) 17.07.1974 on. (On this, see Info #310en, "Peking Review and
others 
on the victory against the 4-gang in 1976", of 19.02.2008.)

I much later wrote about the actually wrongful (though, as far as I know, 
bloodless) suppression of that demonstration at the Tienanmen on
05.04.1976, in 
my Info #036en, "Remember Tiananmen '89 and '76", sent out on each 04 June
from 
1997 on.

Back in 1976, neither I nor that then quite advanced M-L party in Germany,
the 
"NE", had gotten anything close to correct information "on the ground" in 
China, about the very im****tant events of 05.04.1976. I on my part finally
got 
sufficient such (which I then could realize must have been correct, since
I 
already had read a crucial analysis of some later events by the "NE", from
1977 
and the all the pieces of the puzzle then fitted together), from a book in
1985 
by (the of course bourgeois-thinking) Clare Hollingworth, who in 1976 had
been 
the correspondent in Beijing of the Conservative UK newspaper The Daily 
Telegraph.


MUCH TOO LITTLE INFORMATION "ON THE GROUND", THEN, BOTH FOR ME AND FOR THE

"NE", IN APRIL 1976. BUT THIS AT LEAST COULD BE REPAIRED IN RETROSPECT,
LATER.

Neither of our respective, Europe-stationed, "telescopes" directed at
China had 
been sufficient in April 1976, not even the, at that time, excellent one
of 
Klaus Sender (Hartmut Dicke). That's of course an im****tant lesson too, in
that 
context which we're discussing, Charles. Of course you're right in saying
that 
without some approximately correct information "on the ground", one risks
going 
astray - wholly or in part.

Now, as it later turned out, when basically correct information about the 
entire earlier reactionary dealings of the 4-gang finally did get out from

China, in late October 1976, and clearly seen by the "NE" too (and also by
many 
other CPC-friendly parties all around the world) to be correct (I on my
part 
could do little else, at that point, than just listen to those who,
apparently, 
did understand what was going on, and hope/presume that they were right),
it 
luckily didn't matter all that much that we had been fooled on that
particular 
and really im****tant point from April 1976 on.

Concerning in what way - as it could be seen in retrospect - the PB of the
CC 
of the CPC had been wrong on 07.04.1976, and what this really meant, I
shall 
quote a few lines from my (quite long) Info #270en, "H. Dicke on the
Cultural 
Revolution - in 2006 vs in 1976-78" (of 05.02.2007),


[QUOTE:]

Both of these [the 07.04.1976 PB ones] were good decisions, it can be
judged in 
retrospect. They were sup****ted and welcomed as such at the time too by 
practically all of those political parties and groups outside of China
which 
(genuinely or hypocritically) were sup****ting the CPC. The first of them,
as 
mentioned, meant a certain defeat also for the 4-gang. The second
decision, 
while likewise a good one, was motivated in part wrongly by the PB
however, by 
its introducing it, in its communiqué (reproduced in Info #022en, part
05/12), 
with:

"Having discussed the counter-revolutionary incident which took place at
Tien 
An Men Square and Teng Hsiao-ping's latest behaviour, the Political Bureau
of 
the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China holds that the
nature of 
the Teng Hsiao-ping problem has turned into one of antagonistic
contradiction."

By the Political Bureau's thus hinting, incorrectly, that Deng Xiaoping
had 
"organized" the main part of the recent demonstration and its saying,
wrongly, 
that it had been "a counter-revolutionary incident", the 4-gang at that
time 
had achieved a certain partial success too. Socialism in China thus was
under 
quite serious attack from two competing reactionary groups, it can be seen
in 
retrospect.

[END OF QUOTE]


ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHICH I THINK MAY BE OF GENERAL INTEREST:
 
From November 1976 on, certain observations concerning China made me a
little 
uneasy, but I still could not think, did not want to think, that perhaps 
capitalism was being re-established in that country. In Germany however,
Klaus 
Sender and his "NE" were investigating that question, coming up with an 
internationally unique correct analysis of it in July-August 1977, which
they 
showed me too in April 1978, when it was made public on a larger scale.
Then I 
could see for myself too: Yes, certainly, they were right.

That analysis was based, above all, on those do***ents which were made
public 
in China concerning the so-called "rehabilitation" of Deng Xiaoping then, 
effected in such a (wrong) way, these do***ents showed, that it was clear
to 
the advanced Marxist-Leninist Klaus Sender, who could *prove* this to us
others 
too, that capitalism then in fact was being restored in China.

Thus, the abovementioned "simple trick", of reading some do***ents
somewhat 
carefully.

I was invited then, in April 1978, to my "NE" comrades in Berlin(West) and

given that article by Klaus Sender (later called by me in my Info #270en,
where 
it's reproduced in translation, "Marxist-Leninist publication 2" [from 
1976-1978]), to read in peace and quiet, and then asked, what did I think
of 
it. "This is very good", I said - actually an certain understatement, as I

later came to see. At the hand of that "information on the ground" (above
all), 
Klaus did demonstrate most conclusively and indubitably that which he was 
maintaining, concerning China at that time.

By which I want to tell you one more time, Charles, that such a thing,
such an 
*****sment which demonstrably in correct, under certain cir***stances at
least, 
*can* be made from the other side of the globe too. Incidentally, also
another 
party quite far away from China, namely the PCP in Peru (led by Abimael
Guzmán 
- Chairman Gonzalo), at an almost equally early stage, in September 1977, 
published a similar criticism of the then line of the CPC and of then
recent 
events in China, only this was a criticism not nearly as good as the "NE"
one, 
since it was in error concerning that in reality reactionary role, very
much 
contributing to making the overthrow in China possible, that the
phony"left" 
4-gang had played, as very correctly pointed out and repeated by the "NE"
as 
led by Klaus Sender (whose vile treason took place much later, from one
point 
or other in the 1980s on).

(Concerning the  PCP, by the way, and also concerning that "trick" of
reading 
some do***ents somewhat carefully, which I had learned some more about
during 
some 20+ years of experience of mine as a political activist, see my
article, 
originally of 12.08.1994, and on the Internet from 01.01.1996 on, in my
Info 
#003en, "Why Does the RIM Help U.S. Imperialism Encircle the PCP?".)

Please take a look yourself, Charles, at some crucial lines in that "NE" 
article from July-August 1977 - in case you haven't "fallen asleep", or
have 
tried to do so, when reading all that stuff of mine above; but you should 
realize, (still) ignorant person, that, when you, "on the the basis of"
that 
utter ignorance of yours, have taken it upon yourself to write, publicly,
such 
a "criticism of" my Info #288en as you have done (see above), then you do 
deserve even some more of such "Chinese water torture" against you as you
may 
think(?) my above lines lines make up. - But, I'm hoping in fact that you,
or 
at least some others, instead may learn a little from this which I'm
writing - 
really intended as "a glass of water in the desert" or something like
that, to 
those (others) who want to further the interests of the proletariat, and
if it 
might function as "water torture" too, then, hopefully, only to such
people who 
don't want to know that - yes, rather long and complicated - story about
how 
socialism was overthrown in China and might prefer trying to stick their
head 
down into some sand instead and in reality not combat, or even help, the 
bourgeoisie's of course massive lying on this bit of history.

How about those lines, for instance, by Klaus Sender, from mid-1977,

[QUOTE:]

Why must we reject this decision?

This decision p***** over and violates - at least, according to what we so
far 
know and what has so far been made known about it by re****ts - in a
flagrant 
manner one of those decisions that, when all is said and done, were
reached by 
the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China on 7 April 1976 on
the 
proposal of Chairman Mao.
....

In fact Chairman Mao combated both the revisionist deviation of Teng
Hsiao-ping 
and also the arch-reactionary ultra-rightist 'Gang of Four'. That is why,
under 
his leader****p, two decisions were reached. The first one, that of
appointing 
Hua Kuo-feng First Vice Chairman and President of the State Council, and
the 
second one, that of dismissing Teng Hsiao-ping from all posts, in that 
well-known clear decision. That is a very easily understandable and very
clear 
fact, which one must not permit to be done away with. The present
statements in 
China however all are passing over in silence the relation between these
two 
tendencies and are dealing only with one of the sides.
....

What takes place in China is the following: In the first phase, in a
correct 
manner, following the call: Sma****ng of the "Gang of Four', continuation
of 
class struggle, continuation of the criticism against Teng Hsiao-ping and 
against the right-deviationist wind for reversing correct verdicts, the
'Gang 
of Four' is smashed and class struggle is being continued.

But a relatively short time later, certain phenomena become noticeable in
which 
this line is being abandoned and the criticism of Teng Hsiao-ping very
quickly 
is being discontinued completely, without any points concerning the
reasons for 
it being made clear to people on the outside, a number of do***ents
silently, 
with no accompanying notifications, are all being altered (thus in reality

subjected to forgery) and further the 'KPD' is being received, in fact the

policy as to the phony"Marxists" is continued, as well as those practices
to 
create confusion concerning the struggle in our country.

While thus, in the first moment, the political line is being carried out 
correctly, even only a very short time afterwards one could observe how
the 
political line is being lifted away from the correct basis, the criticism
of 
Teng Hsiao-ping is discontinued completely and, basically, that historical
fact 
that the 'Gang of Four' was beaten under the conditions of a simultaneous 
continuing of the criticism against Teng Hsiao-ping, is being twisted.
....

It is the responsibility of the international proletariat, on a certain
point 
to counteract all this and to develop a public criticism of a socialist
country 
which has developed in reciprocal sup****t together with the international 
proletariat and the peoples of all countries. We do not intend to accept
that 
Chairman Mao here in a stealthy manner in practice is being written off
and 
stricken away and one day will be openly attacked. We must defend Chairman
Mao.

[END OF QUOTE]

Pretty good, I on by part think. In fact there was nothing showing even an

approximately deep insight in these matters, at that time, anywhere else
in the 
world. And that later somewhat more developed analysis of this which I on
my 
part have made, has rested precisely on that one as its basis.

But on principle, what would really prevent you, for instance, Charles, or

anybody else on the list MLL who would take an interest in such things,
from 
coming up with some equally good analysis, of a similar matter, say, on
the 
other side of the globe today?

(Since you live in Malaysia, that might be one here in Europe, then. Such
as 
one small question, are the present-day writings of that grain of sand in
the 
desert, Rolf M. in Malmö, Sweden, perhaps pretty good and at least
potentially 
somewhat helpful to some Marx adherents internationally, or are they just 
pretty bad and worthless, not really having any foundation in facts?
Trying, on 
my part, to be as objective also about such things as I possibly can, I
must 
say that you could improve on your recent *****sment of that quite 
considerably.)

On such matters in general, just one more (repeated) and final quote, from

those do***ents from the CPC's 10th congress which I also quoted above.

[QUOTE:]

Through discussion, many comrades have come to realise that according to
the 
dialectic materialist point of view, all objective things are knowable.
"The 
****d eye is not enough, we must have the aid of the telescope and the 
microscope. The Marxist method is our telescope and microscope in
political and 
military matters." So long as one diligently studies the works of Marx,
Engels, 
Lenin and Stalin and those of Chairman Mao, takes an active part in the
actual 
struggle and works hard to remould one's world outlook, one can constantly

raise the ability to distinguish genuine from sham Marxism and
differentiate 
between correct and wrong lines and views.

[END OF QUOTE]

Isn't that precisely so, what?

Rolf M.


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