Ron Allen wrote:
> Thus, private property was usurped and
> expropriated by private acts of parliament, and
> the majority of England's people were excluded
> from the land, and thereby were driven by the
> resulting poverty into the early factories in
> what has been called "the Industrial
> Revolution".
Michael Price wrote:
> So the problem of poverty had nothing to do
> with capitalism and instead was actually solved
> by it.
Ron Allen answers:
The Industrial Revolution has everything to do
with really-existing capitalism. Welfare-state
liberalism has been trying to solve the problems
that capitalism either produced or perpetuated.
Welfare-state capitalism is the social-welfare
liberal's solution to the many problems created or
preserved by really-existing capitalism, even if
there has never been a truly laissez-faire version
of capitalism.
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"The next world war will not only cause
reactionary cl***** and dynasties to vanish from
the face of the earth, but whole reactionary
peoples as well. And that, too, will be progress."
-- Karl Heinrich Marx, January 1849
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