On May 9, 9:42 pm, "Sean" <waz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "*Anarcissie*" <anarcis...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 8, 8:09 pm, "Sean" <waz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> "*Anarcissie*" <anarcis...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>>>>> ....
> >> >> > I've been engaged, on and off, in various kinds of activism for
> >> >> > many years, and I haven't seen a whole lot of progress. I
> >> >> > don't see a viral spreading of a desire for peace, freedom
> >> >> > and equality, but a viral spreading of The Fear and Security
> >> >> > Mind. If you have any idea how to impede or divert this
> >> >> > development, with concrete examples from what we so
> >> >> > humorously call the "real world", let's have them.
>
> >> >> Well, one could stop focusing on "what are we going to do about
it",
> >> >> and
> >> >> switch "what are you doing about it?" and resolving that dilemma.
>
> >> >> For the focus is still "out there" with an assumption that "doing
> >> >> something"
> >> >> is going to fix "out there" to your current
> >> >> expectations/beliefs/desire,
> >> >> when it isn't.
>
> >> >> See, when you look at things the way you currently are, all you
are
> >> >> "doing"
> >> >> is denying your own spoken belief that "in here & out there" are
> >> >> connected -
> >> >> well they are. But is the focus the right focus?
>
> >> >> OK, confused? Probably. :-)
>
> >> >> The ONLY "in there" of any relevance to you, is YOUR "in there" -
and
> >> >> that
> >> >> is not where your focus is trully directed.
>
> >> >> All the answers are trully "in here" - but it's your "in here" and
not
> >> >> everyone else's "in there" - they have to do their own work and
> >> >> self-analysis. YOU can't fix anyone elses "in there", only they
can.
>
> >> >> Yet from what you "say" your focus is still on what's so wrong
"out
> >> >> there"
> >> >> and at the same time wondering what you can DO to fix other
people's
> >> >> "in
> >> >> there" - well ya can't. That's the usual trap for those feeling
that
> >> >> their
> >> >> "in here" is OK, and desiring to influence everyone else's " in
there"
> >> >> so
> >> >> that the out there will improve and be fixed. :-)
>
> >> >> Not going to happen.
>
> >> >> When you "in here" is in harmony, real harmony with some
individual
> >> >> personal
> >> >> insight - then one begins to see that what's going on "out there"
is
> >> >> exactly
> >> >> how it is supposed to be [ given the situation ].
>
> >> >> So what to do? NO THING at all.
>
> >> > According to you, then, the African-Americans of the South
> >> > in the 1950s and 1960s should have accepted racism,
> >> > segregation, and lynching and done nothing about them,
> >> > except think good thoughts. Their Civil Rights movement,
> >> > which actually did secure equal legal and political rights
> >> > for them by making a lot of real trouble, was a waste of
> >> > time.
>
> >> > Is that what you want to say?
>
> >> No, that's not what I am saying at all.
>
> >> MLK is an example of a man being true to himself, and BEing who he
was.
>
> >> He didn't wage war, he didn't promote violence, and he didn't make
every
> >> white man the enemy. Think about that.
>
> > He was, however, a vigorous activist. He did a lot
> > of different things in the world, some of which had a
> > considerable effect on it. His life and work, then,
> > clearly and directly contradict your precept to do
> > "nothing at all" (see above). So now we have
> > "do something if you feel like it" (King) and "do
> > nothing" (previous suggestion). Your synthesis
> > of this contradiction may prove interesting.
>
> It is! :-)
>
> Maybe this will add to the contradictions
well.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RDhFt0EPHw
>
> Canned Heat Live at the Stamping Ground Festival 1970 - Playing "So Sad"
>
> <smile>
I went through my Zen contradictions phase about 40 years
ago. After awhile that sort of thing becomes pretty mechanical
and no longer provides much insight or even entertainment.
I think you could have rested your case with "do nothing". Of
course, if you'd really believed in that, you wouldn't have
entered the discussion in the first place.
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