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Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist

by The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 08:40 PM

In sci.environment, Poetic Justice
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on Sun, 11 May 2008 22:06:05 -0400
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>> On May 12, 1:55 am, wbye...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 01:30:49 -0400, "V-for-Vendicar"
>>>
>>> <Just...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>  The U.S. GOVERNMENT you mean.  But AmeriKKKan Capitalists provide
NOTING.
>>> Who do you think provides the money for much of these private aid
>>> foundations? Joe and Jennifer Six-pack. Umm....... wrong. It's
>>> cor****ate foundations and capitalists like Gates and Buffett. Who do
>>> you think provides the capital for combating Aids in Africa? Lots of
>>> businesses and horrid capitalists. Who do you think provides the money
>>> for cultural events and museums - damn, it's those horrible
>>> capitalists again. OTOH the US government's original donation to fight
>>> hunger was.........$200 million or $.67 from each of us. Wow,
>>> especially after we've all donated about $4,000 to our Iraq adventure.
>> 
> /
>>> Yup, government does a wonderful job in the philanthropic field. You
>>> can moderate personal and cor****ate greed and redistribute some wealth
>>> with a fair tax system - not by tossing out capitalism. Life isn't
>>> fair, folks. Deal with it.
>>>
>>> WB Yeats  
>> 
>
>
> But justice under the Constitution is supposed to be *fair and equal* 
> theft of ones money deserves justice.

It certainly isn't equal and it never really was fair;
the rich have access to better lawyers and are generally
better educated, whereas the poor, if they're lucky, get
one overworked public defender handling way too many cases
at once.

Not that socialism is any better, of course.

Bear also in mind that the Constitution was originally
designed to only give landowners the franchise.  I'd have
to look as to how exactly non-landowners got it, though.
(Of course the Amendments, Amendment 20 in particular,
make adjustments; women can now vote, and I'd call that
fair, or at least advantageous to them.)

Bear also in mind that Gates and Buffet got their money
from their customers (which, in some cases, includes the
US Taxpayer).  They are businesses, buying and selling
stuff at a profit.

And then there's _A Tale Of Two Cities_, which is allegedly
an example of what unbridled, unregulated capitalism can do
to a city.  There's also the flip side: when the Iron Curtain
tore, we could see the massive damage communism did to the
environment, and to its people.

Presumably, the best operating point is a mix of the two.
The question is what the mix should be.

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"Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-10 03:17:46 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"James" <kin  2008-05-10 10:50:22 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-10 08:28:14 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-10 12:04:27 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-11 01:20:55 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"James" <kin  2008-05-11 21:23:24 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 22:01:32 
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Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 22:11:04 
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Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 22:18:54 
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"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-11 01:19:11 
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"Tom Gardner" &  2008-05-10 11:44:51 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-10 08:47:19 
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"Tom Gardner" &  2008-05-10 21:07:21 
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Dog eat Dog <world@[EM  2008-05-11 10:53:46 
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"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-12 05:09:50 
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sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-18 15:09:58 
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Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-18 20:45:46 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-18 12:25:10 
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Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-10 21:45:05 
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"Tom Gardner" &  2008-05-11 01:05:58 
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"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-11 01:24:37 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-11 13:43:40 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-11 13:50:23 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 18:19:05 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-12 05:14:08 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-19 07:51:03 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-19 07:58:24 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-11 18:41:14 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V for Vendicar"  2008-06-18 05:23:02 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-11 18:44:48 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-19 08:10:23 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-19 08:55:05 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-12 07:41:15 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-19 08:26:12 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-15 22:22:40 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-16 08:52:31 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Day Brown <daybrown@[E  2008-05-18 13:07:22 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Bert Hyman <bert@[EMAI  2008-05-18 18:18:33 
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sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-19 08:57:56 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Lloyd <lparker@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 11:11:35 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-16 15:06:32 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-16 12:16:38 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
James Beck <jim@[EMAIL  2008-05-16 15:58:10 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-17 08:36:15 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-16 13:10:40 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
James Beck <jim@[EMAIL  2008-05-16 16:51:05 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-17 12:04:33 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
James Beck <jim@[EMAIL  2008-05-19 10:45:51 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-17 18:51:06 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-17 18:56:47 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-17 18:57:47 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-18 02:55:39 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-18 02:58:22 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-05-10 11:14:55 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-10 21:46:24 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-11 01:30:49 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
wbyeats@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 08:55:23 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-12 05:18:45 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
wbyeats@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 07:02:28 
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Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-11 18:45:48 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 22:06:05 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
The Ghost In The Machine   2008-05-11 20:40:19 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-12 08:14:40 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Beam Me Up Scotty <The  2008-05-12 10:43:58 
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Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-12 13:37:04 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
The Ghost In The Machine   2008-05-12 08:08:51 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Tunderbar <tdcomeau@[E  2008-05-10 22:05:07 

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