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SilentOtto <silentotto@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > Virtually everyone agrees that some degree of gun control is
desirable
> > > as witnessed by prohibitions on heavy military weapons in civilian
> > > hands.
> >
> > > So, really... The pissing match is about were to draw the line, not
> > > over whether or not a line should be drawn.
> >
> > According to Democrats, nobody should own a firearm.
>
> That statement, of course, is a rightard lie.
>
> >These are the very
> > same people who protest the death penalty.
>
> If rightards, like you, hadn't ****ed up so many times and executed
> the wrong people, perhaps people like me wouldn't oppose it.
Conservatives ****ed up and executed the wrong people? I can see why
you are so confused here. Conservatives don't execute anybody unless
the jury and judge is all conservative. You see, a jury decides guilt
or innocence. A jury recommends death or life in prison. And in most
cases, the judge respects the juries request.
> >Describe "cruel and unusual"
> > punishment as feeding meatloaf to prisoners.
>
> I'm sure that what I think is appropriate punishment is a lot milder
> than rightards who thinks that "enhanced interrogation techniques"
> aren't torture and that it's perfectly acceptable to indefinately
> detain people with no charges and no legal recourse.
And it's common for Lefties to consider an overseas enemy just as
valuable as an American citizen.
> > > > They wish to expel God from our country.
> >
> > > Christianity has long had a privileged place in our society.
> >
> > > I don't see any good reason why it should enjoy such a position.
> >
> > It's called the Constitution; look it up.
>
> Funny you should mention the Constitution.
>
> The Constitution is the reason that you can't spread your bull**** in
> schools and why you're whining now.
Is that so? Well, can you please point out where in the Constitution it
says we can't? Oh, that's right, I'm sorry, it's called Church and
State, and the liberals think it's in the Constitution even though not
one liberal is able to point out those words in the do***ent.
> > > Rightards, like you, are just whining because people like me won't
sit
> > > still and let you cram your rightard Christian bull**** down our
> > > throats.
> >
> > Rightguards never whine, we just defend ourselves from socialist,
> > communist attacks by the Democrats at large. It's perfectly fine for
> > you to "cram" your heathen Darwin theory up the ***** of our children,
> > but when somebody dares suggest that other possibilities of our
> > existence be introduced, it is your people that do the whining.
>
> If you want to teach your children creationist bull****, that's up to
> you.
>
> But, creationist bull**** isn't science and it has no place in a
> science class.
>
> It's that ol' Constitution thing again.
Yes, how could I forget.
> > > >They tell us how to raise our
> > > > children, what we can and cannot use as punishment,
> >
> > > You're perfectly free to punish your children.
> >
> > > You're just not free to -abuse- them.
> >
> > > Why do rightards, like you, oppose stopping child abuse?
> >
> > > >what they can and cannot learn in school.
> >
> > > When rightards, like you, start whining about what kids can or can't
> > > learn in school, you're invariably referring to two things.
> >
> > > You want to teach some flavor of biblical creationism and pass it
off
> > > as science and you want to teach teens to keep their legs crossed
and
> > > pass it off as *** education.
> >
> > > Forget it.
> >
> > > Creationism isn't science and abstinence only isn't *** education.
> >
> > When the UNION teachers want to graduate students who can't even read
> > their very own diploma, one has to question the intent of these
Democrat
> > teachers.
>
> Put the blame where it belongs, on the dead beat rightards who whine
> about millage proposals.
>
> Schools don't run on air, rightard.
Actually, the schools with the most success of citizen sup****t are those
upper to upper middle class communities. And Americans spend more money
per capita on education than any other nation on this planet. But of
course, to a Democrat, taxing people is always the answer.
> > On the other hand, when Republicans introduced the School
> > Voucher Program (or in other words--choice) it was the Democrats who
> > protested and even went to court to stop minorities from having choice
> > in the first place.
>
> School vouchers are just another ploy to get tax payers to absorb the
> cost of rightard religious indoctrination.
No, Republicans give that choice to the parent(s). Democrats don't want
to give choice to the student or parents. Democrats want government to
be the parents, just like in Cuba.
> > > >They call the murder of hundreds of thousands of
> > > > babies Women's Rights, and even used the Constitution to defend
their
> > > > position.
> >
> > > The rightard abortion whine...
> >
> > > If rightards, like you, don't like abortion, all you have to do is
> > > come up with an alternative that addresses the problems that
motivate
> > > women to have abortions.
> >
> > > How come you haven't done so?
> >
> > > Rightards, like you, cry over "dead babies"...
> >
> > > But, you positively -shriek- when anyone suggests you help pay the
> > > cost of raising all those "dead babies" to adulthood.
> >
> > > > They managed to strip States Rights by using Federal Blackmail,
where
> > > > they threaten to withhold highway funds to any state that does not
> > > > comply with their demands.
> >
> > > There's a simple solution to that rightard complaint.
> >
> > > Don't take the money.
> >
> > > You know, rightard...
> >
> > > Sort of like progressive states aren't taking Federal money to teach
> > > kids *** education because they don't want to be tied to the Bush
> > > administrations moronic "abstinence only" education rules.
> >
> > It was you who insisted that Bush had his own people killed for no
> > reason. One would assume you were making reference to our military,
who
> > volunteered their lives for the protection of our country.
>
> What the **** are you babbling about?
>
> >On the other
> > hand, not one of these infants did the same; they had no choice.
>
> Who made such a comparison?
>
> >But as
> > we all know, Democrats don't like choice, and neither did Hitler.
>
> Democrats are all about choice.
>
> The question is who gets to make the choice.
>
> I think it should be the woman.
>
> You think it should be you.
Democrats like choice? This is why they want total control of education
tax money and where it is to be spent. This is why unions don't ask
their contributors what party they wish to send money to, they just send
it to the Democrats. This is why they fought against Gangrich's elderly
care choice. Democrats just want to jail our senior citizens on
Medicare. And this is why they want total control over healthcare,
because government can't compete with insurance companies on the same
level.
> > > >They confiscate most of the taxes, and then
> > > > decide who gets what by their standards.
> >
> > > Rightard -red- states tend to be welfare states, meaning they
receive
> > > more money from the Federal government than they pay in taxes.
> >
> > > That extra money comes mostly from -blue- states.
> >
> > > If you rightards want the -blue- states to give you free money, then
> > > you have to accept the strings that come with it.
> >
> > > If you don't want free money, then don't take it.
> >
> > It's the Democrats that love free money.
>
> Then why do red states take so much of it?
>
> That seems odd if they don't really like it, eh rightard?
Please, site your proof here:
> >Don't you remember all the
> > complaints by the socialists when Bush cut taxes for the wealthy?
>
> Don't you remember what we said that it would do to the budget?
>
> What was it you rightards were saying... Something about it paying
> for itself?
>
> I guess that didn't work, eh rightard?
Sure it did, it's just that 911 and this war spent more than the tax
cuts could provide.
> > Socialists don't like when wealthy Republicans pay less.
>
> Why should wealthy Republicans pay less than hard working Americans?
>
> Goddamn, rightard....
>
> You're not doing a very good job of making your case.
They don't pay less, in fact, the top 5% of wage earners in this country
(or as Democrats would say--the rich) pay over 50% of taxes collected.
The top 10% (still considered rich by Democrats) pay over 70% of
collected taxes.
Republicans feel this is unfair because the word "fair" means equal;
something Democrats are unaware of. To a Democrat, fair is what they
say is fair regardless of the definition.
> >They want the
> > wealthy to pay more, so they can spend it on the unproductive liberals
> > who earn nothing.
>
> We want them to pay more because they COST us more.
How? By providing jobs to workers who also pay tax? By investing in
structures in cities so people have a place to work? By paying capital
gains on their investments which keeps the market active--the market
that many working Americans are invested in for their retirement?
> We don't need a huge military to protect me in my house.
>
> We need a huge military to protect our "over seas interests" which is
> code for multi-national cor****ations and their foreign assets.
>
> Why the hell shouldn't the owners of the the companies that we protect
> with our military pay for it?
>
> There are plenty of other examples where cor****ations are being
> directly subsidized by U.S. tax payers.
>
> It's disgusting.
Read above where I tell you just how much the wealthy pay in this
country. And next time you need a job--ask a poor guy for one.
> > > > They tell you where and when
> > > > you can smoke, what you are allowed or not allowed to eat, and
even tax
> > > > you after you die.
> >
> > > They tell rightards, like you, that you don't have the right to blow
> > > your disgusting smoke in other peoples faces.
> >
> > > As to what you rightards can eat... You can eat what ever the ****
> > > you want.
> >
> > Really? Righgaurds love to eat trans-fats. But that didn't stop the
> > communist Democrats from making regulations prohibiting restaurants
from
> > serving trans-fats now did it?
>
> So make your own, and eat away.
>
> The ban on trans-fats isn't about what rightards like you can eat,
> it's about what you can sell to unsuspecting customers and what you
> can't.
Yes, it's called government control, and less choice for citizens.
> >What about the fat kid who ate
> > McDonalds? Was it a conservative lawyer who sued the chain because
some
> > kid got fat?
>
> Probably.
>
> Republicans are money grubbing liars who will say anything to make a
> buck.
>
> Haven't you noticed?
>
> Haven't you watched any cor****ate hearings?
>
> Remember the lawyers the tobacco companies had and what they said?
Well if you take the Wall Street journal, circle the few companies that
have been known for wrong doing, and then calculate the sour apples, you
will find that the shady companies amount to a fraction of 1% when
compared to all the companies listed in the market.
Now list all the social programs, find out how many have been ripped off
or otherwise abused, and calculate the percentage of bad apples in these
social programs and tell me what you come up with.
> > > As to 'inheritance taxes", if rich kids want money, they can earn it
> > > like everyone else does.
> >
> > Then why don't Democrats do the same?
>
> They do.
>
> That's why they don't whine when they have to pay taxes on Daddy's
> money.
They don't pay taxes on daddy's money--that taxation is reserved for the
wealthy.
> > After all, the money confiscated
> > from the "rich kids' go to liberal, communist, socialist families.
>
> Far more of it goes to pay for aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines
> and for Exxon Mobile to drill for oil.
>
> >Why
> > don't they go out and earn it?
>
> The military and Exxon Mobile?
>
> That's what I keep asking... Why doesn't Exxon Mobile use the money
> they earned to pay for their drilling?
You meant to tell me they don't? Exxon is run by government tax money?
> > > > Now who is closer to Hitler?
> >
> > > Rightards, like you, of course...
> >
> > > Heh heh...
> >
> > > Rightards...
> >
> > Think again socialist.
>
> Ok...
>
> I'll think about it again...
>
> Yep.
>
> You're still a rightard....
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All saints have a past--all sinners have a future
Ronald Reagan
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