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Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist

by Michael Price <nini_pad@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2008 at 10:22 PM

On May 13, 12:41=A0am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 11, 8:44=A0pm, Michael Price <nini_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 12, 6:50=A0am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > On May 11, 9:53=A0am, Dog eat Dog <world@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > > >
>news:da0544b8-226d-4ea2-9df2-a9fe1b3903b0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > >>> How about if I come over to your house (or trailer) and just
tak=
e all your
> > > > >>> belongings? You have more than I do so I have a RIGHT to steal
f=
rom you!
>
> > > > >> If my life depends upon it, and your doesn't YES.
>
> > > > >> Property rights are NOT more im****tant than human rights.
>
> > > > If so... why does the government Lock you away and deprive you of
yo=
ur
> > > > HUMAN rights, because you didn't pay your taxes?
>
> > > Not paying your taxes deprives other people of their human rights by
> > > denying them the funds necessary to sup****t necessary social
> > > services.
>
> > =A0 Well no it doesn't. =A0Taxes fund the attack on neccesary social
> > services,
> > not the social services themselves. =A0For instance the "war on drugs"
> > attacks
> > people's ability not to get kidnapped/arrested and frequently not to
> > get murdered.
> > The government is not neccesary for any "neccesary social service"
> > unless you
> > think war is a neccesary social service. =A0Everything else could be
> > done privately
> > and yes I'm including law enforcement in that.
>
> > > =A0We are social beings. =A0We have social responsibilities,
> > > including financial ones, if we have the means to meet them.
>
> > =A0 We may well have, but what does that have to do with sup****ting
> > those
> > who claim the monopoly of force? =A0If you wish to live up to your
> > financial
> > responsibilities feel free to do so, but don't claim you need to
> > channel the
> > money through the State.
>
> Ah. =A0A Libertarian. =A0Someone who doesn't believe in government.
> Splendid. =A0Move to a desert island. =A0Then, you won't need a
> government. =A0Otherwise, we have to try to get along.

  Then why don't you?  Instead of telling me what to own, what to buy,
what not to buy, what to read, what not to read why don't you just
try to get along with people whose choices are not yours?  Why
insist on bring government, i.e. force into it?  Alternatively why
don't the people who want to use force move to the island?
 




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"Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-10 03:17:46 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"James" <kin  2008-05-10 10:50:22 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-10 08:28:14 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-10 12:04:27 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-11 01:20:55 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"James" <kin  2008-05-11 21:23:24 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 22:01:32 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 22:11:04 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 22:18:54 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-11 01:19:11 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"Tom Gardner" &  2008-05-10 11:44:51 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-10 08:47:19 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"Tom Gardner" &  2008-05-10 21:07:21 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Dog eat Dog <world@[EM  2008-05-11 10:53:46 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-12 05:09:50 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-18 15:09:58 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-18 20:45:46 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-18 12:25:10 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-10 21:45:05 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"Tom Gardner" &  2008-05-11 01:05:58 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-11 01:24:37 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-11 13:43:40 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-11 13:50:23 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 18:19:05 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-12 05:14:08 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-19 07:51:03 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-19 07:58:24 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-11 18:41:14 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V for Vendicar"  2008-06-18 05:23:02 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-11 18:44:48 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-19 08:10:23 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-19 08:55:05 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-12 07:41:15 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-19 08:26:12 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-15 22:22:40 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-16 08:52:31 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Day Brown <daybrown@[E  2008-05-18 13:07:22 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Bert Hyman <bert@[EMAI  2008-05-18 18:18:33 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-19 08:57:56 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Lloyd <lparker@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 11:11:35 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-16 15:06:32 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-16 12:16:38 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
James Beck <jim@[EMAIL  2008-05-16 15:58:10 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-17 08:36:15 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-16 13:10:40 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
James Beck <jim@[EMAIL  2008-05-16 16:51:05 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-17 12:04:33 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
James Beck <jim@[EMAIL  2008-05-19 10:45:51 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-17 18:51:06 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-17 18:56:47 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-17 18:57:47 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-18 02:55:39 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
sigvaldi <sigvald@[EMA  2008-05-18 02:58:22 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"OneTwoThree" &  2008-05-10 11:14:55 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-10 21:46:24 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-11 01:30:49 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
wbyeats@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 08:55:23 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-12 05:18:45 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
wbyeats@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 07:02:28 
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Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-05-11 18:45:48 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-11 22:06:05 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
The Ghost In The Machine   2008-05-11 20:40:19 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-12 08:14:40 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Beam Me Up Scotty <The  2008-05-12 10:43:58 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Poetic Justice <@[EMAI  2008-05-12 13:37:04 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
The Ghost In The Machine   2008-05-12 08:08:51 
Re: "Give me MONEY or else YOU WILL DIE" - Capitalist
Tunderbar <tdcomeau@[E  2008-05-10 22:05:07 

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