Re: Re: RepubliKKKan senator calls for 55 MPH national speed limit.

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:43:06 -0700, Buck Mulligan
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> wrote:


>During his trial, Höss changed the figure in his confession to a total
>of 1,130,000 Jews that were gassed but declared "During my tenure at
>Auschwitz, millions of people died, whose exact number I cannot
>determine."

 
People who write confessions are often told exactly what to write,
word for word, by their interrogators. I know this because it happened
to me.
Some Germans did "confess":
"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
four times to get Höess to reveal his true identity.
<quote>
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order signed by Höss.
The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his
body.  He was then dragged ****d to one of the slaughter tables, where
it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless. 
Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless you want to take back a corpse."
A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
throat. Höss tried to sleep.
Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."
For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
took my orders frorn Himmler.  I was a soldier in the same way as you
are a soldier and we had to obey orders."
The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning.  The snow
was swirling still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made
to walk completely **** through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote>
An article in the Britsh newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV do***entary on the case
of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones: 
<quote>
Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein.  "They brought him to us
when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activities
during the war.  He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a
small jail cell in the barracks," recalls Mr. Jones.  Two other
soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell to help
break him down for interrogation.  "We sat in the cell with him, night
and day, armed with axe handles.  Our job was to prod him every time
he fell asleep to help break down his resistance," said Mr. Jones.
When Höss was taken out for exercise he was made to wear only jeans
and a cotton ****rt in the bitter cold.  After three days and nights
without sleep, Höss finally broke down and made a full confession to
the authorities.
</quote>
The confession Hoess signed was numbered do***ent NO-1210; later
revamped, as  do***ent PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
deposition Hoess made for the  IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
had been extracted from him by torture.
In his memoirs Hoess recounts the cir***stances of his arrest and what
followed.  The treatment that he underwent was particularly brutal.
At
first blush it's surprising the Poles allowed Hoess to make the
revelations he did concerning the British military police. Perhaps
they
did so to lend the Hoess confession a veneer of veracity; or to move
the
reader to make a comparison, flattering for the Polish Communists,
betweenthe British and Polish methods.  
In fact, Hoess later said that during the first part of his detention
at Cracow, his jailers came very close to breaking him physically and
psychologically, but that later they treated him with "such decent and
considerate treatment" that he consented to write his memoirs; to
provide an explanation for certain absurdities contained in the text
(NO-1210) that the British police had made Hoess sign, one of these
absurdities being the invention of an extermination camp in a place
which never existed on any Polish map: "Wolzek near Lublin." Hoess had
talked of 3 camps-Belzek [sic], Tublinka [sic] and Wolzek near Lublin,
although the Belzec and Treblinka camps did not yet exist when (June
1941) Himmler, according to Hoess, told him they were already
functioning as "extermination camps."
Here is how, one after the other, Rudolf Hoess described his arrest by
the British, his signing of the do***ent classified as NO-1210, his
transfer to Minden-on-the-Weser, where the treatment that he underwent
was worse yet, his stay at the IMT prison, and, finally, his
extradition to Poland [Commandant in Auschwitz, Introduction by Lord
Russell of Liverpool, English translation Weidenfeld and Nicolson,
1959, P. 173-175]:
<quote>
I was arrested on 11 March 1946 [at 11 pm].
 
My phial of poison had been broken two days before.
When I was aroused from sleep, I thought at first I was being attacked
by robbers, for many robberies were taking place at that time. That
was how they managed to arrest me.  I was maltreated by Field Security
Police.
I was taken to Heide where I was put m those very barracks from which
I had been released by the British eight months earlier.
At my first interrogation evidence was obtained by beating me.  I do
not know what is in the record, although I signed it. Alcohol and the
whip were too much for me.  The whip was my own, which by chance had
got into my wife's luggage.  It had hardly ever touched my horse, far
less the prisoners.  Nevertheless, one of my Investigators was
convinced I had perpetually used it for flogging the prisoners.
After some days I was taken to Minden-on-the-Weser, the main
interrogation centre in the British Zone.  There I received further
rough treatment at hands of the English public prosecutor, a major.
The conditions in the prison accorded with this behaviour.
After three weeks, to my surprise, I was shaved and had my hair cut
and I was allowed to wash.  My handcuffs had not previously been
removed since my arrest.
On the next day I was taken by lorry to Nuremberg, together with a
prisoner of war who had been brought over from London as a witness in
Fritzsche's defence.  My imprisonment by the International Military
Tribunal was a rest-cure compared to what I had been through before.
I was accommodated in the same building as the principal accused, and
was able to see them daily as they were taken to the court. Almost
every day we were visited by representatives for all the Allied
nations. I was always pointed out as an especially interesting animal.
I was in Nuremberg because Kaltenbrunner's counsel had demanded me as
a witness for his defence.  I have never been able to grasp, and it is
still not clear to me, how I of all people could have helped to
exonerate Kaltenbrunner.  Although the conditions in prison were, in
every respect, good-I read whenever I had the time, and there was a
well stocked library available-the interrogations were extremely
unpleasant not so much physically, but far more because of their
strong psychological effect.  I cannot really blame the
interrogators-they were all Jews.
Psychologically I was almost cut in pieces. They wanted to know all
about everything, and this was also done by Jews. They left me in no
doubt whatever as to the fate that was in store for me.
On 25 May, my wedding armiversary as it happened, I was driven with
van Burgsdorff and Bühler to the aerodrome and there handed over to
Polish officers.  We flew in an American plane via Berlin to Warsaw.
Although we were treated very politely during our journey, I feared
the worst when I remembered my experiences in the British Zone and the
tales I had heard about the way people were being treated in the East.
</quote>
 
If, as is obvious, Hoess was tortured into confessing absurdities,
then it is not too far-fetched to suppose the same brutal treatment
would have been given to other Allied prisoners. (As, indeed, it was.)
For example, during his oral deposition on April 15, 1946, before the
IMT, Hoess agreed (responding to Col. Amen's question) that he had
overseen the killings Hungarian Jews in early 1943 -- even though the
first convoy of them did not arrive in Auschwitz until May 1944.
A month earlier Hoess had signed a statement claiming to have arranged
for the "gassings of two million persons between June/July 1941 and
the end of 1943."
Yet, Col. Amen did not ask Hoess to elaborate on the text of his
"confession" which he held in his hands. Hence, what references are
contained in transcripts of the Nuremberg trial to the gas chambers
are vague and few in number. 
The IMT records certainly do not include any expert re****t on the
weapon of a crime without precedent and autopsy re****ts clinically
confirming deaths by a gassing with the agent Zyklon B at Auschwitz,
for instance."
Orest Slepokura
 

>They weren't beating him during the trial. he confessed, the weakling.

  Why don't you walk a mile in his shoes you lowlife s***bag. They
probably threatened to start on his family next.


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