In article <138qe98pkdo6108@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, olsonfam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
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>"tgm" <tgm3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:Yq0ji.8093$7k7.7238@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> In article <1183564435.832840.316150@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> truthmonger9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
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>>>On Jul 4, 10:59 am, "Bushwacker" <rocka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> Under the guise of protecting America from becoming a "surveillance
>>>> society"
>>>> (whatever that means) the ACLU is working to protect foreigners who
have
>>>> illegally invaded America, some of whom may be terrorists. The ACLU
have
>>>> targeted efforts to identify these foreigners, like the Real ID Act
of
>> 2005.http://www.realnightmare.org/
>>>>
>>>> Any politician who sup****ts the effort against the effort to identify
>>>> those
>>>> who broke our laws to invade America (while others waited in line)
>>>> deserve
>>>> to thrown out of office. I predict this election day there will be a
>>>> massive
>>>> revolt against these "representatives."
>>>
>>>It's time to destroy the ACLU. They oppose anything that fights the
>>>war on terror.
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>> So you actually like Governmental intervention in your life? You don't
>> mind if
>> Governmental bureaucracies will have your personal information in who
>> knows how
>> many databases. They would never abuse that information or leave it on
>> some lap
>> top computer that just happens to be lost or stolen.
>>
>> But using coordinated drivers licenses as a national ID card, quite a
>> concept.
>>
>> But it doesn't do very much good if we don't systematically require
their
>> production. We can set up checkpoints all across the Nation where the
>> authorities will be able to check our IDs and verify it with their
>> National databases. They can also check our travel do***ents, oops I
mean
our
>> proof of insurance and owner****p card.
>>
>> If any of these do***ents are suspect or otherwise out of order the
>> authorities can take the offender down to Headquarters, sorry, I meant
local
police
>> station.
>>
>> There they can be interrogated, my bad, I meant to say, ask them to
>> explain the discrepancies.
>>
>> I don't know why but I'm getting the urge to click my heels together...
>>
>> A little off the subject here but are you aware of the machines that
can
>> read the magnetic stripes on the back of all Drivers Licenses?
>>
>> Criminals know you can buy them at most any computer store. They get
>> there hands on your Drivers license for even a couple of second or
trick you
>> into swiping your card through their machine and they know all they
need to
>> know to swipe your Identity. Your birth records your Mothers maiden
name,
your
>> Social Security number, your full name and address, even if you require
gl*****
>> to correct your vision.
>>
>> Imagine the ACLU is actually trying to stop the Government from even
>> collecting this data. How dare they try to protect our liberty against
>> Governmental intrusion. Here on independence day they are actually
trying to
keep the
>> Fatherland, oops, my mistake, I mean our benign and enlightened
>> Government from keeping tabs on every one of us.
>>
>> Damn the ACLU for trying to protect our right's and Liberty's on this,
our
>> day of Independence.
>
>Why do they choose to ignore the right guaranteed under the 2nd
Amendment?
Can't speak for the ACLU but my in my view it is an obsolete and
ineffective
Amendment bearing much in common with the 3rd Amendment.
For the purpose of this discussion let's assume the right is a personal
right
and not limited to State run Militias.
It was still designed to allow people the right to defend their liberty.
When
muskets and long rifles were the mainstays of even the most advanced Armys
of
the world, such an amendment made sense.
Today where F-22s, M-1 Abrahms tanks and nuclear powered aircraft carriers
control the land, the air and the sea, our little pea shooters are pretty
much
of a joke. Hell, we can't even readily make IEDs.
Taking another tack, let's read hunting into the Amendment and claim that
the
right to bear arms was necessary so people could hunt and feed their
family.
Well in case you hadn't noticed, there are supermarkets in most every
community
and the people who take guns to the supermarkets are not hunting for food.
Just as there are no soldiers being quartered in our homes neither can our
non-automatic weapons do anything to protect our freedoms.
Why spend time and money on an obsolete Amendment when the Government is
trying
to infringe on many other of our Constitutional rights.
Tom
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