"BDK" <BDK@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> In article <hugh_gibbons-18C4DE.17452906072007@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> hugh_gibbons@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>> In article <138t4nfb29bvvfa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> "NapalmHeart" <olsonfam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> > "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> > news:jVbji.3297$bz7.2769@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > NapalmHeart wrote:
>> > >> "tgm" <tgm3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> > >> news:Yq0ji.8093$7k7.7238@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >>> In article
<1183564435.832840.316150@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> > >>> truthmonger9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Jul 4, 10:59 am, "Bushwacker" <rocka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > >>>>> Under the guise of protecting America from becoming a
>> > >>>>> "surveillance
>> > >>>>> society"
>> > >>>>> (whatever that means) the ACLU is working to protect foreigners
>> > >>>>> who
>> > >>>>> have
>> > >>>>> illegally invaded America, some of whom may be terrorists. The
>> > >>>>> ACLU
>> > >>>>> have
>> > >>>>> targeted efforts to identify these foreigners, like the Real ID
>> > >>>>> Act of
>> > >>> 2005.http://www.realnightmare.org/
>> > >>>>> Any politician who sup****ts the effort against the effort to
>> > >>>>> identify
>> > >>>>> those
>> > >>>>> who broke our laws to invade America (while others waited in
>> > >>>>> line)
>> > >>>>> deserve
>> > >>>>> to thrown out of office. I predict this election day there will
>> > >>>>> be a
>> > >>>>> massive
>> > >>>>> revolt against these "representatives."
>> > >>>> It's time to destroy the ACLU. They oppose anything that fights
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>> war on terror.
>> > >>> So you actually like Governmental intervention in your life? You
>> > >>> don't
>> > >>> mind if
>> > >>> Governmental bureaucracies will have your personal information in
>> > >>> who
>> > >>> knows how
>> > >>> many databases. They would never abuse that information or leave
>> > >>> it on
>> > >>> some lap
>> > >>> top computer that just happens to be lost or stolen.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> But using coordinated drivers licenses as a national ID card,
quite
>> > >>> a
>> > >>> concept.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> But it doesn't do very much good if we don't sytematicly require
>> > >>> their
>> > >>> production. We can set up checkpoints all across the Nation
where
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> authorities will be able to check our IDs and verify it with
their
>> > >>> National
>> > >>> databases. They can also check our travel do***ents, oops I mean
>> > >>> our
>> > >>> proof of
>> > >>> insurance and owner****p card.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> If any of these do***ents are suspect or otherwise out of order
the
>> > >>> authorities
>> > >>> can take the offender down to Headquarters, sorry, I meant local
>> > >>> police
>> > >>> station.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> There they can be interrogated, my bad, I meant to say, ask them
to
>> > >>> explain the
>> > >>> discrepancies.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I don't know why but I'm getting the urge to click my heels
>> > >>> together...
>> > >>>
>> > >>> A little off the subject here but are you aware of the machines
>> > >>> that can
>> > >>> read
>> > >>> the magnetic stripes on the back of all Drivers Licenses?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Criminals know you can buy them at most any computer store. They
>> > >>> get
>> > >>> there
>> > >>> hands on your Drivers license for even a couple of second or
trick
>> > >>> you
>> > >>> into
>> > >>> swiping your card through their machine and they know all they
need
>> > >>> to
>> > >>> know to
>> > >>> swipe your Identity. Your birth records your Mothers maiden
name,
>> > >>> your
>> > >>> Social
>> > >>> Security number, your full name and address, even if you require
>> > >>> gl*****
>> > >>> to
>> > >>> correct your vision.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Imagine the ACLU is actually trying to stop the Government from
>> > >>> even
>> > >>> collecting
>> > >>> this data. How dare they try to protect our liberty against
>> > >>> Governmental
>> > >>> intrusion. Here on independence day they are actually trying to
>> > >>> keep
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> Fatherland, oops, my mistake, I mean our benign and enlightened
>> > >>> Government from
>> > >>> keeping tabs on every one of us.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Damn the ACLU for trying to protect our right's and Liberty's on
>> > >>> this,
>> > >>> our day
>> > >>> of Independence.
>> > >>
>> > >> Why do they choose to ignore the right guaranteed under the 2nd
>> > >> Amendment?
>> > > Why does the NRA ignore the first three words of that amendment?
>> >
>> > They don't. When you take the statement in its entirety, examine the
>> > comments of the authors, and compare the meaning of the words "the
>> > people"
>> > as used in other amendments, the meaning and intent of the 2nd
>> > Amendment is
>> > pretty clear.
>>
>> Yes it is. It's pretty clear that the purpose of the Amendment is to
>> ensure that the States can continue to have their own well-regulated
>> militias and that the Federal government will not interfere with their
>> arming them as they see fit.
>>
>> It is clearly not so you can have your own pistol or shotgun or hunting
>> rifle or AK-47 to use for your entertainment and "self defense."
>>
>
> It clearly IS so you can have your own pistol, shotgun, or rifle. A
> semiauto AK is ok too.
>
> BDK
He must believe that the phrase "the people" has variable meanings in the
same do***ent.
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