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Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Future, CIA Chief Hayden Says ...

by "I. R. Heller" <Heller-Efaco@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

"rst0wxyz" <rst0wxyz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:c3fcce92-e380-447a-bb23-a7d36ea07ee2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 May 1, 11:08 am, Kyle Schwitters <slipuva...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> NINE BILLION humans by 2050!
>
> By any stretch, that's too much for the earth to comfortably 
> sup****t,
> especially since 3/4 of the world's current 6.7 billion population 
> are
> crammed in, or "reside," in China, India, and Latin America.
>
> Oh, the pro-population growth crazies, including religious leaders 
> of
> Roman Catholicism and Islam, continue to insist the untrammeled
> reproduction of Homo sapiens can only benefit mankind as 
> "techonolgy"
> will accommodate any number that "nature" can crank out. Of course,
> these groups are engaged in rivalries outside of just "member****p," 
> so
> any criticism falls on deaf ears.
>
> But most enlightened scientists and researchers believe there ARE
> finite limits to population growth, as witnessed by shortages of 
> food,
> water, and shelter -- in continuing cycles -- in Africa, Latin
> America, the Middle East, and South Asia.
>
> But don't expect the hierarchy of major religions or dictatorial
> governments to take any lead in promoting moderation in reproductive
> activity. The 4 billion souls "living" under those weighty rulers
> suit the tyrants just fine.
>
> -----------------------------
> "CIA Chief Sees Unrest Rising With Population"
>
> By Joby Warrick
> Wa****ngton Post Staff Writer
> Thursday, May 1, 2008; A15
>
> Swelling populations and a global tide of immigration will present 
> new
> security challenges for the United States by straining resources and
> stoking extremism and civil unrest in distant corners of the globe,
> U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director Michael V. Hayden 
> said
> in a speech yesterday.
>
> The population surge could undermine the stability of some of the
> world's most fragile states, especially in Africa, while in the 
> West,
> governments will be forced to grapple with ever larger immigrant
> communities and deepening divisions over ethnicity and race, Hayden
> said.
>
> Hayden, speaking at Kansas State University, described the projected
> 33 percent growth in global population over the next 40 years as one
> of three significant trends that will alter the security landscape 
> in
> the current century. By 2050, the number of humans on Earth is
> expected to rise from 6.7 billion to more than 9 billion, he said.
>
> "Most of that growth will occur in countries least able to sustain 
> it,
> a situation that will likely fuel instability and extremism, both in
> those countries and beyond," Hayden said.
>
> With the population of countries such as Niger and Liberia projected
> to triple in size in 40 years, regional governments will be forced 
> to
> rapidly find food, shelter and jobs for millions, or deal with 
> restive
> populations that "could be easily attracted to violence, civil 
> unrest,
> or extremism," he said.
>
> European countries, many of which already have large immigrant
> communities, will see particular growth in their Muslim populations
> while the number of non-Muslims will shrink as birthrates fall.
> "Social integration of immigrants will pose a significant challenge 
> to
> many host nations -- again boosting the potential for unrest and
> extremism," Hayden said.
>
> The CIA director also predicted a widening gulf between Europe and
> North America on how to deal with security threats, including
> terrorism. While U.S. and European officials agree on the urgency of
> the terrorism threat, there is a fundamental difference -- a
> "transatlantic divide" -- over the solution, he said.
>
> While the United States sees the fight against terrorism as a global
> war, European nations perceive the terrorist threat as a law
> enforcement problem, he said.
>
> "They tend not to view terrorism as we do, as an overwhelming
> international challenge. Or if they do, we often differ on what 
> would
> be effective and appropriate to counter it," Hayden said. He added
> that he could not predict "when or if" the two sides could forge a
> common approach to security.
>
> A third security trend highlighted by Hayden was the emergence of
> China as a global economic and military powerhouse, pursuing its
> narrow strategic and political interests. But Hayden said China's
> increasing prominence need not be perceived as a direct challenge to
> the United States.
>
> "If Beijing begins to accept greater responsibility for the health 
> of
> the international system, as all global powers should, we will 
> remain
> on a constructive, even if competitive, path," he said. "If not, the
> rise of China begins to look more adversarial."
>
> http://www.wa****ngtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/30/AR200...

Well, maybe we should start the 1-child per family planning now so we
won't over-crowd ourselves.


IRH:  It could just be that this worry about overpopulation will prove 
to
be a mute issue, as the DU materials attached to each and every 
US-produced bomb will have eliminated the healthy reproduction (and 
reproduction at all) of millions of people, not only the active 
participants in these last two invasions of Iraq (EVERY participant 
was exposed to the resulting radiation), but also the population 
within many miles of the surrounding countries; plus (I read) there 
have already traces of that material been found, which had to have 
been carried by the clouds to as far away from that area, as Alaska.

Every year on the anniversary of Chernobyl there are more horror 
stories presented by scientists, doctors (MDs) and survivors.
Cant we put one plus one together and learn ??
Or, perhaps this whole situation was (sub-)consciously started to 
control overpopulation ??
Thing is, why poison (by radiation with a half life of several 
centuries) a country one wants to take over eventually ?? if only for 
the sake of oil or to get closer to the next imagined "enemy" (Iran, 
North Korea, China), in order to be "in command of the whole world" 
(all in the name of "globalization").

As it looks now, none of us will be able to live long enough to see 
the real damage this family and their helpers have caused to the whole 
world, just with the health issues. Also, in the Western World there 
wont be enough hospitals to care for those in dire need.

Regarding the food shortages, they are recent-man-maid, as many who 
did not experience this shortage before now had to (are being forced 
to) "contribute" to the oil-alternatives, so they were/are not able to 
utilize the formerly used ground to grow food, like they had done for 
centuries. Now they "may" purchase from those who are charging, 
charging and overcharging, leaving those who cannot afford those 
prices to starve to death (another way to control over-population).
In Africa we have in addition the non treated and overwhelming problem 
of AIDS, besides some of the other diseases (like Ebola, Malaria, 
etc.), which have populations dwindle away. For Ebola there is no 
cure, for Malaria there is not enough medicine available.

Good is that those powers in charge now will not be in any history 
books as the heroes of our centuries - soon no one will be alive to 
read them. -
Sure sounds crazy to me (also) to demolish a wonderful reputation that 
the US enjoyed for decades (many people had forgotten the previous 
wars, started by the US). Now we are down, way below the zero point 
and most likely will not be able to recover - ever. The damage done, 
which will linger for decades and centuries in some areas, will remind 
those few survivors. There is only one single antidote, that is if 
someone can reduce the "half-life" of that radiation poisoning to make 
it not lethal. O.k. dream on . . . any better ideas ??

Oh, you think this is doomsday talk ?! Go research, if you do not 
agree with this written here. There is no use putting our heads in the 
sand, it will not go away - because those who read and can understand 
are simply afraid to face this awful truth and to take the 
consequences is almost too late now. - -
And the beat goes on. . .
So, enjoy life while you still can. Oh yes, a nice thing is to believe 
that there is a life here after and we can choose to come back and 
hopefully do it right next time ?? - -
So much for now.
Be well,
I.R.H
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Futur
Kyle Schwitters <slipu  2008-05-01 11:08:52 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-01 11:32:51 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
"I. R. Heller"   2008-05-02 22:10:59 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
Drooler <perryneheum@[  2008-05-02 08:29:03 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-03 13:55:19 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-05-02 13:34:16 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
penang@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-02 20:24:54 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-03 13:57:14 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
Drooler <perryneheum@[  2008-05-03 07:19:41 

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