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Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Future,

by Raymond <Bluerhymer@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 2, 2008 at 01:34 PM

On May 2, 4:10=EF=BF=BDpm, "I. R. Heller" <Heller-Ef...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "rst0wxyz" <rst0w...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> schrieb im
Newsbeitragnews:c3fcce92-e380-4=
47a-bb23-a7d36ea07ee2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On May 1, 11:08 am, Kyle Schwitters <slipuva...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > NINE BILLION humans by 2050!
>
> > By any stretch, that's too much for the earth to comfortably
> > sup****t,
> > especially since 3/4 of the world's current 6.7 billion population
> > are
> > crammed in, or "reside," in China, India, and Latin America.
>
> > Oh, the pro-population growth crazies, including religious leaders
> > of
> > Roman Catholicism and Islam, continue to insist the untrammeled
> > reproduction of Homo sapiens can only benefit mankind as
> > "techonolgy"
> > will accommodate any number that "nature" can crank out. Of course,
> > these groups are engaged in rivalries outside of just "member****p,"
> > so
> > any criticism falls on deaf ears.
>
> > But most enlightened scientists and researchers believe there ARE
> > finite limits to population growth, as witnessed by shortages of
> > food,
> > water, and shelter -- in continuing cycles -- in Africa, Latin
> > America, the Middle East, and South Asia.
>
> > But don't expect the hierarchy of major religions or dictatorial
> > governments to take any lead in promoting moderation in reproductive
> > activity. The 4 billion souls "living" under those weighty rulers
> > suit the tyrants just fine.
>
> > -----------------------------
> > "CIA Chief Sees Unrest Rising With Population"
>
> > By Joby Warrick
> > Wa****ngton Post Staff Writer
> > Thursday, May 1, 2008; A15
>
> > Swelling populations and a global tide of immigration will present
> > new
> > security challenges for the United States by straining resources and
> > stoking extremism and civil unrest in distant corners of the globe,
> > U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director Michael V. Hayden
> > said
> > in a speech yesterday.
>
> > The population surge could undermine the stability of some of the
> > world's most fragile states, especially in Africa, while in the
> > West,
> > governments will be forced to grapple with ever larger immigrant
> > communities and deepening divisions over ethnicity and race, Hayden
> > said.
>
> > Hayden, speaking at Kansas State University, described the projected
> > 33 percent growth in global population over the next 40 years as one
> > of three significant trends that will alter the security landscape
> > in
> > the current century. By 2050, the number of humans on Earth is
> > expected to rise from 6.7 billion to more than 9 billion, he said.
>
> > "Most of that growth will occur in countries least able to sustain
> > it,
> > a situation that will likely fuel instability and extremism, both in
> > those countries and beyond," Hayden said.
>
> > With the population of countries such as Niger and Liberia projected
> > to triple in size in 40 years, regional governments will be forced
> > to
> > rapidly find food, shelter and jobs for millions, or deal with
> > restive
> > populations that "could be easily attracted to violence, civil
> > unrest,
> > or extremism," he said.
>
> > European countries, many of which already have large immigrant
> > communities, will see particular growth in their Muslim populations
> > while the number of non-Muslims will shrink as birthrates fall.
> > "Social integration of immigrants will pose a significant challenge
> > to
> > many host nations -- again boosting the potential for unrest and
> > extremism," Hayden said.
>
> > The CIA director also predicted a widening gulf between Europe and
> > North America on how to deal with security threats, including
> > terrorism. While U.S. and European officials agree on the urgency of
> > the terrorism threat, there is a fundamental difference -- a
> > "transatlantic divide" -- over the solution, he said.
>
> > While the United States sees the fight against terrorism as a global
> > war, European nations perceive the terrorist threat as a law
> > enforcement problem, he said.
>
> > "They tend not to view terrorism as we do, as an overwhelming
> > international challenge. Or if they do, we often differ on what
> > would
> > be effective and appropriate to counter it," Hayden said. He added
> > that he could not predict "when or if" the two sides could forge a
> > common approach to security.
>
> > A third security trend highlighted by Hayden was the emergence of
> > China as a global economic and military powerhouse, pursuing its
> > narrow strategic and political interests. But Hayden said China's
> > increasing prominence need not be perceived as a direct challenge to
> > the United States.
>
> > "If Beijing begins to accept greater responsibility for the health
> > of
> > the international system, as all global powers should, we will
> > remain
> > on a constructive, even if competitive, path," he said. "If not, the
> > rise of China begins to look more adversarial."
>
>
>http://www.wa****ngtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/30/AR200...
>
> Well, maybe we should start the 1-child per family planning now so we
> won't over-crowd ourselves.
>
> IRH: =EF=BF=BDIt could just be that this worry about overpopulation will
p=
rove
> to
> be a mute issue, as the DU materials attached to each and every
> US-produced bomb will have eliminated the healthy reproduction (and
> reproduction at all) of millions of people, not only the active
> participants in these last two invasions of Iraq (EVERY participant
> was exposed to the resulting radiation), but also the population
> within many miles of the surrounding countries; plus (I read) there
> have already traces of that material been found, which had to have
> been carried by the clouds to as far away from that area, as Alaska.
>
> Every year on the anniversary of Chernobyl there are more horror
> stories presented by scientists, doctors (MDs) and survivors.
> Cant we put one plus one together and learn ??
> Or, perhaps this whole situation was (sub-)consciously started to
> control overpopulation ??
> Thing is, why poison (by radiation with a half life of several
> centuries) a country one wants to take over eventually ?? if only for
> the sake of oil or to get closer to the next imagined "enemy" (Iran,
> North Korea, China), in order to be "in command of the whole world"
> (all in the name of "globalization").
>
> As it looks now, none of us will be able to live long enough to see
> the real damage this family and their helpers have caused to the whole
> world, just with the health issues. Also, in the Western World there
> wont be enough hospitals to care for those in dire need.
>
> Regarding the food shortages, they are recent-man-maid, as many who
> did not experience this shortage before now had to (are being forced
> to) "contribute" to the oil-alternatives, so they were/are not able to
> utilize the formerly used ground to grow food, like they had done for
> centuries. Now they "may" purchase from those who are charging,
> charging and overcharging, leaving those who cannot afford those
> prices to starve to death (another way to control over-population).
> In Africa we have in addition the non treated and overwhelming problem
> of AIDS, besides some of the other diseases (like Ebola, Malaria,
> etc.), which have populations dwindle away. For Ebola there is no
> cure, for Malaria there is not enough medicine available.
>
> Good is that those powers in charge now will not be in any history
> books as the heroes of our centuries - soon no one will be alive to
> read them. -
> Sure sounds crazy to me (also) to demolish a wonderful reputation that
> the US enjoyed for decades (many people had forgotten the previous
> wars, started by the US). Now we are down, way below the zero point
> and most likely will not be able to recover - ever. The damage done,
> which will linger for decades and centuries in some areas, will remind
> those few survivors. There is only one single antidote, that is if
> someone can reduce the "half-life" of that radiation poisoning to make
> it not lethal. O.k. dream on . . . any better ideas ??
>
> Oh, you think this is doomsday talk ?! Go research, if you do not
> agree with this written here. There is no use putting our heads in the
> sand, it will not go away - because those who read and can understand
> are simply afraid to face this awful truth and to take the
> consequences is almost too late now. - -
> And the beat goes on. . .
> So, enjoy life while you still can. Oh yes, a nice thing is to believe
> that there is a life here after and we can choose to come back and
> hopefully do it right next time ?? - -
> So much for now.
> Be well,
> I.R.H- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

War is one way to accomplish their immediate goals and at the same
time distribute wealth and world assets to the top members of the
American community ....and It is working for them..Also,population
control makes sense to many, It must be done soon. However, there are
other humanitarian ways to do this without the horrors of deliberate
war such as in Iraq and Afghanistan.


SEE Bush method: MOST Americans, including Democrats as well as
Republicans,  who have no family member or friend in harms way
apparently approve .Otherwise, it could not happen To them war is the
health of the state..


http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm


" With the shock of war the State comes into its own again."
--- War Is the Health of the State


by Randolph Bourne
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/hist_texts/warhealthstate1918.html


"It seems like such a terrible shame that innocent civilians have to
get hurt in wars, otherwise combat would be such a wonderfully healthy
way to rid the human race of unneeded trash".
 ~Fred Woodworth


The Bush family is doing what they can to reduce population. It has
been their policy for many years. They see war, starvation and denying
health care to the poorest citizens as a method to reduce the
population of nations that they consider to be populated by inferior
people.They also see civil wars (Africa example) as another means to
accomplish population control.


SEE THE BROTHERHOOD
Part 6: Population Control
By Ivan Fraser and Mark Beeston (http://www.truthcampaign.co.uk)


http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/brotherhoodpart6.shtml


Index: Eugenics | ENGINEERED WARS  To Reduce
Populations
Eugenics


War is one of the most effective ways of culling an 'undesirable'
population,
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/brotherhoodpart6.shtml


"To kill a man is not to defend a doctrine, but to kill a man."
~Michael Servetus


The United Nations Population Fund claims that 37 percent of
contraception users in Ibero-America and the Caribbean have already
been surgically sterilized.The U.S. government pays directly for
these
sterilizations.


Mexico is first among targeted nations, on a list which was drawn up
in July 1991, at a USAID strategy session. India and Brazil are second
and third priorities, respectively.


On contract with the Bush administration, U.S. personnel are working
from bases in Mexico to perform surgery on millions of Mexican men and
women. The acknowledged strategy in this program is to sterilize those
young adults who have not already completed their families.


George H.W. Bush had a rather deep-seated personal feeling about this
project, in particular as it pitted him against the Pope in Catholic
countries such as Mexico.


The idea of worldwide population control is not new to society. Even
Aristotle discussed the subject:


   "For the proper administration of justice and for the distribution
of authority it is necessary that the citizens be acquainted with each
others character, so that, where this cannot be, much mischief ensues,
both in the use of authority and the administration of justice; for it
is not just to decide arbitrarily, as must be the case with excessive
population."


And in 1967, the United Nations addressed the potential need to
include population control in long range planning:


   "We believe that the population problem must be recognized as a
principal element in long-range planning if governments are to achieve
their economic goals and fulfill the asperations of their people...."


Retired US Senator Dale Bumpers, in a New York Times op-ed article
(Jan.3,1999) said, "... While I'm not apocalyptic about our future,
I'm greatly troubled by Congress's unwillingness to confront our long-
range problems, like global warming, population growth, loss of arable
land to development and depletion and pollution of our water supplies.
If we continue to ignore these problems, or only deal with them
superficially, our future will be bleak indeed."


 "The [government] must put the most modern medical means in the
service of this knowledge.... Those who are physically and mentally
unhealthy and unworthy must not perpetuate their suffering in the body
of their children.... The prevention of the faculty and op****tunity to
procreate on the part of the physically degenerate and mentally sick,
over a period of only 600 years, would free humanity from an
immeasurable misfortune.''


``The per capita income gap between the developed and the developing
countries is increasing, in large part the result of higher birth
rates in the poorer countries.... Famine in India, unwanted babies in
the United States, poverty that seemed to form an unbreakable chain
for millions of people--how should we tackle these problems?.... It is
quite clear that one of the major challenges of the 1970s ... will be
to curb the world's fertility.''


Guess who said the above?


These two quotations are alike in their mock show of concern for human
suffering, and in their cynical remedy for it:


Let us now further inquire into the family background of our
Presidents, so as to help illustrate how the second quoted author,
George Herbert Walker Bush came to share the outlook of the first,
Adolf Hitler


The spending for birth control in the non-white countries is one of
the few items that was headed upwards in the Bush administration
budget. As its 1992 budget was being set, USAID said its Population
Account would receive $300 million, a 20 percent increase over the
previous year. Within this project, a significant sum is spent on
political and psychological manipulations of target nations, and
rather blatant subversion of their religions and governments.


These activities might be expected to cause serious objections from
the victimized nationalities, or from U.S. taxpayers, especially if
the program is somehow given widespread publicity.


MORE ON BUSH
SEE;
http://www.the7thfire.com/bush3.htm


Since at least 1969, through the United Nations Population Fund
(UNFPA), the UN has steadfastly been a leading voice in attempting to
fund projects that provide contraception and gynecological services to
prevent teen-pregnancy and HIV/AIDS prevention in 142 countries.


UNFPA is the world's largest multionational source of population
assistance, with programs in countries around the planet. Since it
became operational in 1969, the Fund has provided some $5.6 billion to
developing countries to meet reproduction health needs and sup****t
substantial development.


Unbelievably, on July 22, 2002, GW Bush announced that the United
States would not grant (UNFPA) the $34 million dollars appropriated by
Congress for 2002. The decision will cost thousands of women and
children their lives. The $34 million from the United States would
have allowed the agency to prevent two million unwanted pregnancies
and more than 77,000 infant and child deaths, UNFPA estimates.


The politically confused Bush Administration, in withholding
funds,accepted allegations that the UNFPA gives tacit sup****t to
China's one-child policy just by working in China.


[The United States is the only country ever to deny fundung to UNFPA
for non-budgetary reasons.]


While the annual population growth seems to have reached a plateau,
still the world has added 85 to 90 million people every year for the
last decade. Each month the world adds another new York City and
though some 300.000 Somalis died of starvation in 1992, they were
replaced in 29 hours.


Obviously, controlling the population is the answer. If nothing is
done within the next 25 years, to bring down the rate of human
increase, even the affluent Americans will find themselves living in
an environment charged with miseries and an urgency to invent new ways
to provide for not only the necessities but also the decencies of
life. We, in America, do not need more illegals to add to our already
struggling economy.


"We have been God-like in our planned breeding of our domesticated
plants and animals, but we have been rabbit-like in our unplanned
breeding of ourselves."
    ---  Toynbee, Arnold Joseph


"People ****ee too much."
--- Con****ius


America - Too Many People Already - Control Growth To Survive.  Ask
our Leaders to Secure our Borders Immediately


The United States poses the most serious threat of all to human life
sup****t systems. It already has a gigantic population, the third
largest on Earth, more than a quarter of a billion people. Americans
are super consumers, and use inefficient technologies to feed their
appetites. Each, on average, uses 11 kW of energy, twice as much as
the average Japanese, more than three times as much as the average
Spaniard, and over 100 times as much as an average Banglade****.
Clearly, achieving an average family size of 1.5 children in the
United States (which would still be larger than the 1.3 child average
in Spain) would benefit the world much more than a similar success in
Bangladesh


 --- Overpopulation---
 http://dieoff.org/page27.htm


Illegal immigration into the United States is out of control,
particularly across our southern border. Several members of Congress
and Governors have declared states of emergency. The problem is not
merely the number of illegal immigrants. In addition to the hundreds
of thousands of illegal immigrants from Central and South America,
there are several hundreds, perhaps thousands, of illegal aliens from
countries that sponsor terrorism or harbor terrorists entering the
United States each year across our border with Mexico. Thus, it is a
national security issue as well as an immigration issue..... Until the
border is secured and the tide of illegal immigration is stemmed,
proposals to adjust immigration quotas, whether up or down, are doomed
to ineffectiveness.


http://www.weneedafence.com/


Population Control, New World Order Style  -Educate Yourself
By Ken Adachi <Edi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcontrol.shtml
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Futur
Kyle Schwitters <slipu  2008-05-01 11:08:52 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-01 11:32:51 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
"I. R. Heller"   2008-05-02 22:10:59 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
Drooler <perryneheum@[  2008-05-02 08:29:03 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-03 13:55:19 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-05-02 13:34:16 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
penang@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-02 20:24:54 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
"V-for-Vendicar"  2008-05-03 13:57:14 
Re: POPULATION & IMMIGRATION: Most Challenging Aspects Of Our Fu
Drooler <perryneheum@[  2008-05-03 07:19:41 

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