Re: Death of Zoya Krakhmalnikova

On Thu, 15 May 2008 07:12:05 GMT, Catawumpus <kimmerian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Michael Bourdeaux, The Guardian, Tuesday May 13 2008 ...
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>>>> Krakhmalnikova became an active democrat, calling on leaders of the 
>>>> Orthodox church to repent of its collaboration with the 
>>>> authorities (which they never> did).
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>Catawumpus <kimmerian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>      First things first, tho:  has the Orthodox church _stopped_
>>> collaborating with the authorities?
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>veritas <coming_soon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> What "authorities" are you referring to?
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>     I mean the reigning authorities.  Sometimes they're called
>the powers that be.
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>-- Catawumpus

Would you prefer an antagonistic relation****p ?

There is nothing wrong with working with government in a partner****p
for the social good and especially if your own survival as a church is
in the balance as was the case in the Cold War.

Sort of like the relation****p between Pius XII and Mussolini .

Besides , Constantinian Christianity warrants this partner****p with
the Emperor as the 13th Apostle -- it is what has preserved us
untainted for 2000 years compared to the tens of thousands of
non-Orthodox churches.

Peter