Re: Death of Zoya Krakhmalnikova

Catawumpus <kimmerian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:

>>      What's missing, so far as I know, is any resistance by the
>> Eastern Orthodox church to the Czars or the rulers who've
>> followed them, allowing for individual exceptions.  Same in the
>> West, where the link between Church and Empire dates to
>> Constantine, though some Christians have strongly protested the
>> relation****p.

Dan <dannyk1001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:

> Is there a subtext here? 

     Yes, infinitely many of them, but it's turtles all the way
down.

> Having stated the "problem", do you wish to
> propose a "solution"? Quakerism? Evangelical Protestantism?

     I mentioned Kierkegaard somewhere nearby.  Not saying he's
right about everything -- not at all -- but his _Attack on
Christendom_ is well-aimed and on-topic.  I could also bring in
folks like the Bogomils, or Simone Weil, or we could talk 
about the nice Jewish kids described in the NT.  But that means 
coping with the scriptural inconsistencies as well as the 
people compelled to iron them out in service of whichever brand 
of dogma.

> Don't forget that throughout the Soviet era, there were always
> Orthodox Christians in active resistance who wor****pped "in the
> catacombs". The phenomenon has evolved since 1989, but such people are
> still present and to some extent they form the "conscience" of the ROC.

     Not forgetting.  I carefully left room for exceptions like
those.

-- Catawumpus