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Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.

by Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 29, 2008 at 01:43 AM

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:51:49 -0400, ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Padraigh
ProAmerica) wrote:

[snip]

==> I have yet to find but a very few legitimate historians who deny the
==>existance of Jesus.

		It is not necessary to "deny the existence" of
		Jesus, since there isn't an iota of proof of his
		existence in the first place.

==>Outside of the New Testament, He is mentioned in the Jewish Talmud;

		Nope.  There is no consensus among historians whether
		Jesus is mentioned in the Talmud at all.

==> the
==>Holy Qu'ran of Islam,

		The Q'uran was written almost 700 years AFTER Jesus
		supposedly died, and nothing in it can be considered
		evidence of Jesus's historicity.

==>and the detailed histories of Josephus and
==>Tacitus, among others.

		"Detailed histories," my ass.

		Josephus was born in 37 C.E. -- some four years AFTER
 		Jesus supposedly died.
		Tacitus was born in 56 C.E. -- some 23 years AFTER
		Jesus supposedly died.

		Obviously, neither man could have been a witness to
		the supposed existence of Jesus.
		Any mention of Jesus in their writings would of
		necessity have been hearsay, rumour or folk tale.

		Besides that, the one supposed mention of Jesus
		in Josephus's work, Testimonium Flavianum, is
		almost universally regarded as a forgery inserted
		later by Christians trying to fake evidence of Jesus's
		historicity.

		Nice try, Christians, but no ceegar.

[snip]

==>THe Gospel of Luke contains many descriptions of places; to date, not
==>ONE of these desciptions has been proven wrong. In fact, many of his
==>descriptions once thought wrong have been shown to be right. IF he got
==>that right dosn't that lend credence to the rest of his gospel?

		Not a bit.  The accurate recording of names and
		descriptions of places does not in any way confer
		authenticity to claims of miraculous events and
		supernatural phenomena.

		Also, there may be something called the Book of
		Luke, but there is no evidence that there really WAS
		a Luke, or that if there was, he actually wrote what
		was later ascribed to him.

		The fact, which you won't want to acknowledge but
		is true nonetheless, is that not a single piece of
		writing that mentions Jesus has been traced to his own
		time.  That's because everything about him was MADE
		UP later, by members of the sect that formed around
		him.

		In the total absence of any evidence of Jesus
		historicity, it is not unreasonable to assume that
		the legend of Jesus is just myth.















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 26 Posts in Topic:
Re: Jesus Is God
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-06-26 10:19:26 
Re: Jesus Is God to mindless people.
"God's Creator!"  2008-06-27 23:21:33 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-28 22:51:49 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-06-29 01:43:07 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-29 20:21:10 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-06-30 02:56:56 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-06-30 10:34:48 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-30 22:09:02 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-01 19:17:09 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-02 13:01:06 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-02 22:28:46 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-02 13:03:18 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-03 10:55:37 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-04 01:20:57 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-06-30 10:25:35 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-02 11:38:15 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-02 12:53:25 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-03 10:55:37 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-03 17:39:37 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-04 01:41:44 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-04 17:34:03 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-05 11:21:40 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-12 10:31:33 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-13 06:23:06 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-13 21:33:18 
Re: Jesus Is God
Pastor Dave <ananias91  2008-06-28 05:11:50 

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