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Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.

by Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 3, 2008 at 10:55 AM

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:03:18 -0700 (PDT), Roger Pearse
<roger.pearse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

==>On 2 Jul, 00:17, Ivan Gowch <ivango...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
==>>                 Whether the versions are similar or identical
==>>                 doesn't change the fact that the Bible is a
==>>                 contradictory collection of myths, fables and
==>>                 children's stories, written by anonymous and
==>>                 ignorant men, translated, re-translated, rewritten
==>>                 and finally compiled by a committee.  Not one word of
==>>                 it can be regarded as factual.

==>A lot of the rich and powerful people would like us to think so.

		Which "rich and powerful people?  Historically, rich
		and powerful people were almost always at least
		allied with the churches and generally sup****ted
		the established religious institutions, since religion
		keeps the common folks meek and compliant which
		is, of course, its purpose.

==>Ever wonder why?  After all, if there is no right or wrong

		Who says that without religion there would be no
		right and wrong?  That is one of religionists'
		foulest lies.

		Of course, without religion there is still right and
		wrong -- the difference is, those judgments are based
		on how people actually treat each other and the
		consequences of people's behaviour, not on
		an ancient tome of zero relevance to modern life.

==>what stops them
==>screwing us all over?

		Rich and powerful people always "screw over" as much
		of the rest of society as they can.  That's how they
		*became* and *remain* rich and powerful.

		(Former New York Stock Exchange Chairman Richard
		Grasso just managed to grab $187.5 million when he
		walked away from his job.  How much do YOU earn,
		Roger?)

		Sheesh!  Do I have to explain everything to you?

==> Ever wondered whether the permissive society
==>was a bribe?

		You say "permissive society" as it were a bad
		thing.  Permissiveness is good, except to those
		social fascists who want to substitute their own
		moral judgments for everyone elses'.  We need
		more permissiveness, not less.

		But then, we know that religionistas fear and loathe
		(other people's) freedom and will do everything they
		can to suppress it.  Members of the Christian Right,
		in particular, won't be satisfied until every last
		mother****er in the world has been utterly
		brainwashed, and humanity is transformed into an army
		of blank-eyed zombies, marching obediently
		and in lockstep to the churches, to be told what to
		do by befrocked liars and child-molesters.

		**** that.  As The Who once sang, "We're Not Gonna
		Take It".
	
==>We need a strict moral society, if only to keep the greedy bastards at
==>the top in line.

		Really?  And just whose morals will be strictly
		enforced in this society?  Yours?  Those of one
		particular religious sect, based on some ancient
		scribblings?  The church's?  Which church's?

		**** off, Roger.  What we need is a free society
		in which everyone is at liberty to live by
		their own moral code, with anti-social
		behaviour restrained by a reasonable, sensible
		and *secular* criminal code.

		Sort of like what we have now in all most of
		North America and the rest of the developed
		world.

		God save us from other people's "morals."

		(BTW, Roger, we don't disagree on everything.
		I notice that in another post you wrote this:
		"But of course this would not show that (ancient
		texts) are divinely inspired or indeed contain
		correct content."
		In this you are absolutely correct.  As I have been
		pointing out forever, there isn't a scrap of credible
		evidence that *anything* in either the Old or New
		Testaments was divinely inspired or contain correct
		content.  Which is, of course, why people who
		believe the Bible is some kind of supernaturally
		inspired work are morons.)

		"The Bible, it seems certain, was the work of
		sand-strewn men and women who thought the earth was
		flat and for whom a wheelbarrow would have been a
		breathtaking example of emerging technology." -Sam
		Harris

























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 26 Posts in Topic:
Re: Jesus Is God
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-06-26 10:19:26 
Re: Jesus Is God to mindless people.
"God's Creator!"  2008-06-27 23:21:33 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-28 22:51:49 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-06-29 01:43:07 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-29 20:21:10 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-06-30 02:56:56 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-06-30 10:34:48 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-30 22:09:02 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-01 19:17:09 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-02 13:01:06 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-02 22:28:46 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-02 13:03:18 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-03 10:55:37 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-04 01:20:57 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-06-30 10:25:35 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-02 11:38:15 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-02 12:53:25 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-03 10:55:37 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-03 17:39:37 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Roger Pearse <roger.pe  2008-07-04 01:41:44 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-04 17:34:03 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-05 11:21:40 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-12 10:31:33 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
Ivan Gowch <ivangowch@  2008-07-13 06:23:06 
Re: Jesus Is God to intelligent people.
ogrowup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-13 21:33:18 
Re: Jesus Is God
Pastor Dave <ananias91  2008-06-28 05:11:50 

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