Tsirk Susej wrote:
> While the opinion expressed in these articles may sometimes differ,
> there is no genuine conflict between LaVeyan Satanism…
I disagree with your opinion that there is no conflict between your
perspective and The Satanic Bible.
> If, as some Satanists claim, there is no God, then there is no reason
> to call ourselves Satanists. The atheist-Satanist makes a great
> argument but if he is correct, then he is an atheist and not a
> Satanist? If he feels that dogma is im****tant to his psyche but that
> God doesn't exist, there is no reason he cannot continue practicing a
> religion (like Christianity or Judaism) while realizing it false.
In your former paragraph you said there was no conflict with your views
and The Satanic Bible's?
The confusion is that those who are spiritual believers can't grasp the
concept of Satan as a symbol because they believe in an Invisible Pink
Unicorn.
From the CoS's perspective, Satanists are NOT devil wor****ppers. Why
can't know one grasp that?
Satanists DO NOT WOR****P ANYONE OR ANYTHING except for their own Self.
Devil wor****ppers (those who wor****p the Devil because they BELIEVE he
is real) are not Satanists (those who use Satan as a symbol).
It is the christian devil wor****pper who have created denominationilism
(like in christian or god-based churches) and not the CoS. Satanists
are not spiritual followers and believers and do not need churches.
Yes, most have a problem with The Satanic Bible because they don't like
The Satanic Bible's non-theistic position or non-spiritual position.
CoS Satanists are not controlled from without by the human invented
god-based white light religions. And since Satanists see themselves as
their own gods then they do not wor****p anything above themselves
including the DEVIL.
But I do suggest that all should wor****p and serve if that is what
makes them happy. Be true to your own nature. ;-)
> Satanism is an independent religion and that the attraction
> to darkness which binds one to the Inverse Deity is a spiritual
> calling.
Do you have evidence to sup****t this claim or belief?
> Logically, the Devil may or may not exist. If He exists, it may be as
> a powerful thought-form or as a product of the Collective Subconscious
> (this I suggest in the Demonic Bible.) The Devil may, however, pre-
> exist man as a being distinct from the universe. Set is considered one
> of the Neters of ancient Egypt in Setian or Sethian Philosophy.
> Whatever the Devil may be, we are drawn to Him as the archetype of
> carnality and of the psyche. This is what defines us as Satanists and
> which separates us from agnostic atheist humanists or eclectic pagan
> hedonists.
Are you a spiritual "believer"?
> And so, here we are...followers of the Dark Lord.
Not CoS Satanists and I, personally, only wor****p myself and my ego.
CoS Satanists do not wor****p, bow, or grovel to anything except the
Self.
>We turn to Him, as Our God and Master.
I do not bow before any deity other than My Self.
I am my own redeemer.
> Are we able to transcend death…?
No.
All humans are born and die.
Also, no one has come back from death to prove anything about an
afterlife.
Some may claim they have but what does that prove to me?
Should I believe them?
> worldwide community of Satanists.
From the CoS's perspective and my perspective there is no "satanic
community".
That is an oxymoron and reeks of egalitarianism.
Often some are confused and think that because the CoS has the word
"church" in its title that it means that they are a herd of joiners.
Actually, this is tongue in cheek and if you think about it is quite
funny. Do you think he wore the priest collar because he was trying to
be serious? LOL!
There is no "WE" in the CoS and this it what separates their CABAL from
other religions.
Believers need churches but Satanists do not.
Who is this "WE" you speak of?
> Satanists have called for Unity and for the creation of a Satanic
Community.
Since when? I know Anton Szandor LaVey would never have sup****ted this
so-called "call to arms". Please don't speak for everyone here. :-P
> If you have read my books, you may know that much of what I say
> contains lies and half-truths.
Sounds like most other self-proclaimed mumbo jumbo out there and that
is why I have come to agree with The Satanic Bible. It is real and
honest.
Everything in The Satanic Bible is based on reality as it is. It is
even honest about man's need for truth and fantasy.
At least The Satanic Bible admits that there is some fantasy in its
pages and doesn't lie about it.
Honesty is undefiled wisdom.
> I have done my master's bidding well.
Are you proud to be a slave? Don't get me wrong, if that is your thing
then I suggest that you serve me instead. :-P
> Those who receive me, receive my Father who is in Hell.
Are you claiming to be the anti-christ or something?
Are you looking for some "followers"?
Lastly, those who embrace death rather than life hope and pray for an
Armageddon.
Don't take my reply as personal attack. We can agree to disagree.
Be real. :-)
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