Re: Satanists Say NO To Drugs!

"the 2nd coming of christ" <jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:00:11 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
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>>"the 2nd coming of christ" <jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:31:57 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
>>> <tjsrno@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>"the 2nd coming of christ" <jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:06:58 GMT, "Tani Jantsang ©"
>>>>> <tjsrno@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They have the up to the minute
>>>>>>news on what these brand new tactics of Christian Zionists are - 
>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>convert Jews.  Makes for very interesting reading, tho I have to 
>>>>>>wonder
>>>>>>why
>>>>>>these Christians are SO stupid as to imagine that Jews never heard
of
>>>>>>Jesus.
>>>>>>Amazing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it gets worse, they also want to convert catholics of all people,
>>>>> who are already in the same faith as theirs... at least jews don't
>>>>> accept christ, but catholics? they accept christ, right? makes no
>>>>> sense... i guess they're too chicken **** to go and convert their
>>>>> fascist allies in the war against the jews: the muslims. i'd sure
>>>>> pay to see that...
>>>>
>>>>I didn't know they were trying to convert Catholics.  I'm not really 
>>>>sure
>>>>WHAT Catholics believe
>>>
>>> in Christ...
>>
>>And in Mary and in a bunch of Saints - and in a lot LOT of things
>>Protestants do not believe in at all.
>
> doesn't matter. if you believe in christ you are a christian by
> definition... protestants trying to convert catholics is the
> stupiddest **** i've ever seen in my life, period. it takes the
> cake of stupid ****....

Actually, it's not.  I didn't know that Protestants and Catholics were the

same for years - no, for decades!  I didn't know.  Why would I know that? 
I 
knew Italians.  They were NOTHING like the people that were Protestants - 
tho the ones I knew rarely talked about religion at all.  Protestants
seemed 
very bland, also secular.  Catholics (Italians) seemed different, more
prone 
to have parties and such :)  In the later 80s I learned the BIG difference
- 
and I learned that Evangalicals (they are not just protestants) DO try to 
convert  Catholics - and when and if they do, Catholics get very anti Mary

and against the Saints.  So there is a difference there.  Protestants, as 
was shown in that university - Bob Jones or something University - a 
standard protestant university, consider the Pope to be the anti Christ. 
Now yeah, that blew my mind.  I had NO idea.
>>>
>>>>- except that they have Mary as like Sophia - i.e.,
>>>>she's not just a woman.
>>>>
>>>>They aren't exactly waging a war against Jews.  They sup****t Israel, 
>>>>give
>>>>them millions of dollars
>>>
>>> they give more to their arab allies who are the ones funding all
>>> the terrorists who want to destroy israel... condo rice herself
>>> admitted that some of our money may be ending up in hamas' hands.
>>
>>No, the Christian Zionists give money to Israel - and no one in Israel
>>denies this fact.
>
> i thought you meant our government...  if christian zionists
> privately give them money, that's their problem...  bill gates
> gives money to charities all around the world, and i don't have a
> problem with that, either...  what concerns me is that the
> christian zionists only help jews in israel with the goal of
> converting them at some point... they don't just help jews out and
> see them as equals... they see them as unsaved, just like they see
> catholics as unsaved...  by their definition, jews would be
> unsaved by the fact they don't accept christ, but catholics do
> accept christ--that one makes no sense in my book...

No need to be concerned.  Do you think that Jews don't know EXACTLY what 
these Christian Zionists are about?  The CZ's don't exactly keep anything 
secret, they are very vocal and open about it.  Many Jews see it your way,

and I agree - that it's a form of cultural genocide.  But then again, many

others Jews do NOT see it that way since they are getting sup****t, US gov 
pressure and a LOT of money from these people who are basically their 
allies.  The CZ believe GOD gave that land to the Jews - Period.  Even
most 
Jews don't elieve that - they are secular.  The CZ don't believe Israel 
should give an inch of land away.  Israelies are divided on that, some 
compromise - but the CZ are right.  Every single time the Israeli's 
compromise, the Islamic see that as WEAKNESS!  And in a way it is.  Jeff 
(ADL agent and Am Zion Member) even said that Israel should fight the
damned 
war TO WIN IT, not to ***** foot around their own potential genocide at
the 
hands of Islamics.  I agree.  BUT - I also agree that this is ISRAEL'S 
problem.  NOT America's problem.  That is also the stance of the JTF
(Jewish 
Task Force).
>
>>  I meant that the OTHER Christians (regular groups, not
>>fanatics) don't blindly sup****t Israel.  Christian Zionists DO blindly
>>sup****t Israel.
>
> it's their money to do what they want with, i guess...

Oh, they do a lot more than just give money.  They try to influence US 
policies.  But they aren't doing something pro America.  They are doing 
things based on religion.
>
>>>
>>> the US created the taliban, bin laden, etc.. Carter is the father
>>> of Islamic extremism. I think i have an article on that saved on
>>> my computer but would have to look for it...
>>
>>Sure thing, the US created the Taliban, armed them, to fight the USSR -
>>which, at the time, I said was a BIG mistake.  I was right.  Christian
>>Zionists are a whole other thing.  Check out Jews On First. Hell, 
>>subscribe
>>to it - it's pretty good.  I also like the JTF - they are seriously
>>fanatic - they liked Rabbi Kehane.  We have a few of them in the SR, too
>>LOL.
>
> not familiar with JTF or what it means...

Jewish Task Force.  Look them up - they are seriously right wing Jews -
and 
definitely Zionists.
>
>>>
>>>>- but due to their apocalyptic view, they WANT
>>>>Israel to go to war with Iran and bring on the armegeddon.  They do
not
>>>>want
>>>>Israel to give back ANY lands to Palestinians.
>>>
>>> the US is constantly convincing Israel to make concessions that
>>> end up harming them...
>>
>>Not the Christian Zionists tho.  They are a whole other kind of thing
out
>>there.
>
> i got mixed up, my bad...

Look up the stuff I told you.  I told ya, I do know quite a whole lot
about 
this, esp since Jeff Gerber was close pals with us before he died -
offline, 
real life.  His nephew is in the JTF.
>
>>
>>like making them stop the bombing on
>>> Lebanon for one, when they could have taken out hezbollah for
>>> good...
>>
>>The basic US policy regarding Israel - Jeff agreed with me on this,
should
>>just STOP.  Israel should simply take care of the problems there - they
>>certainly have the weapons to do it.  What are they waiting for?  They
>>should just DO it.
>>>
>>>>  Some Jewish leaders are
>>>>telling others to hush up about their views on these Christians,
because
>>>>these Christians are the ONLY pals they have right now.  They are
aware
>>>>that
>>>>people of other Christian religions (mainline, not fanatic) also see
the
>>>>Palestinian cause.  Rev Hagee doesn't try to convert Jews because he
>>>>believes in some kind of Dual Salvation - i.e., Jews don't have to go 
>>>>thru
>>>>Jesus to get to God.
>>>
>>> he's probably in the minority. the majority think if jews don't
>>> convert they won't be saved...   attempting to convert jews is the
>>> same as destroying them with terror, only the method differs...
>>
>>I agree.  Hagee is not trying to convert them - he's one of the
Christian
>>zionist leaders out there.  HE's the one that Jewish leaders are saying
to
>>be nice to.  Check out the articles with regard to him, look him up. 
>>Hagee
>>on Israel - look it up.
>
> ok, ok, i'll look into it... gee wiz, i haven't even finished the
> steinlight letter...

LOL - print it out.  Plus you got that book.  Take your time, this is not 
easy or fast reading.  Read it carefully - you will learn a LOT esp if you

are interested in this.  It's a lot easier to read things offline, hard 
copy.
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>And to think, I thought Century 21 might be more like Star Trek.  BOY,
I
>>>>had
>>>>my hopes up, alright.  Looks like it's a return to the Dark Ages.
>>>
>>> more like a return to the third reich...
>>
>>No, not nearly.  If that were the case, the cultures of European
countries
>>wouldn't be in danger of vani****ng.  It wouldn't be all superstitious 
>>****,
>>either.  We have two dark ages fanatic groups at war with each other:
>>Christian Zionists and Islamics.  Israelis are being WAY too civilized 
>>about
>>all of it.   Kehane was HARD line, not liberal at all.  He wanted to fix

>>the
>>problems permanently.
>
> well they both want an end of jews as we know them. christians
> want to convert them with 'love' and islamists with 'hate'....

YES - exactly!  And England - mehhhh, that place is GONE.  I just read
some 
stuff on England and their Islamics that blew me away.
>
>>
>>Whatever the case may be, WE can't stay in Iraq forever - and due to the
>>STUPID **** Bush did, if we leave, Iran will take it over.
>
> i say let them sort the **** out between themselves and if iran
> takes over, so be it... it will teach us a lesson not to mess with
> other dictator****ps that are keeping islamists in check, even if
> not being totally humane about it. you can't be too humane with
> those animals, that will slash your throat in a second for saying
> a joke about muhammad or what have you...

I agree.  The USA should get the hell out - and yes, it was ALL in vain, 
so 
was Vietnam. A waste of money and lives.  I said that all along about
Saddam 
(and got trashed to hell on here for saying it) but I was ****ING RIGHT. 
What you don't know about the neocon plan tho, they wanted the USA to 
conquer them, Europe to police them - and some other crazy **** like that.

They were pipedreaming in fantasyland.  Europe is becoming Islamized - and

England is a lost cause.  And the boys in the US just do NOT have what it 
takes to fight that kind of war.  Hell, even the Russians got the hell out
- 
and they used tactics like dropping toys that exploded in kid's hands.
>
> islamists were already a majority when saddam was there, he just
> kept them in check.

HELL yes he kept them in check  - brutally.  That's what it took (and now 
the ****tards in the west realize this).

if it's true that we sup****t democracy and
> majority rule, then we should allow them to have control... but
> the international community should respond if they attack israel
> or any other country for that matter without provocation...

I don't think the international community is too fond of Israel these days

I tell you, the ONLY pals they really have are those Christian Zionists. 
I 
don't want America to be involved in foreign wars unless it's for America
- 
NOT for anyone else.  That's the Monroe Doctrine - and it served America 
well for a long time.
>
>> STUPID **** man.
>>Saddam fought a war with Iran for a LONG time.  Saddam should have 
>>remained.
>>Israel has the power to take Iran down right now.  WHAT are they waiting
>>for?
>
> for some provocation, i guess... to make it seem fair in front of
> the anti-semitic world community that is ready to criticize any of
> their moves...

Then they are waiting ONCE AGAIN to be "walked into the gas chambers." 
They 
are waiting for Iran to get the bomb?  Heh.  They don't take their big bad

talking seriously?  They didn't take Hitler seriously either.  That's what

Steinlight is saying to them - especially about their policies (that 
MacDonald elaborates on) - he's begging them to CHANGE TACTICS.

Pat Buchanan (regarding Jared's theory below) only made public what came
out 
of the "top secret" channels in 1991 or so - that the neocons REALLY DID 
make this foreign policy - only they wrote that in 1991.  They
reintroduced 
it to Bush-Chimp and Bush bought it.  That's the truth.  Now, heh, well, I

guess  Wolfowitz is really out of favor for ****ING UP.  BOY did he ****
up. 
These people never denied writing this plan out, 2nd.  Pat would be angry
at 
ANYONE, ANY GROUP that involved America in some foreign war.  I agree on 
that.  We don't belong in ANY foreign wars like that.
>
> -- 
>
> ``Could it be that ... political theater is being staged, very much like

> the wrestling matches on TV, with the so-called neoconservatives and
their 
> so-called enemies, such as Pat Buchanan, loudly making public statements

> intended to convince the opponents of US foreign policy actions that
these 
> actions are the fault of 'the Jews'?'' --Jared Israel/Emperor's Clothes
>
>
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