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Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Strength And Vitality

by "Joseph Welch" <seattledemocracy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2006 at 07:21 PM

"ray" <xxxrayted@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:xxxrayted-9D2345.20415915052006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> It is illegal for phone companies to provide their records to the
>> government without a court order.
>
> No, it isn't.  All they need is the cooperation of the provider as they
> did.

False.  In fact the law specifically prohibits the telcos from providing 
that information to any government entity without proper legal process:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 121 > § 2702 Prev | Next

§ 2702. Voluntary disclosure of customer communications or records


Release date: 2005-08-03

(a) Prohibitions.- Except as provided in subsection (b)-
(1) a person or entity providing an electronic communication service to
the 
public shall not knowingly divulge to any person or entity the contents of
a 
communication while in electronic storage by that service; and
(2) a person or entity providing remote computing service to the public 
shall not knowingly divulge to any person or entity the contents of any 
communication which is carried or maintained on that service-
(A) on behalf of, and received by means of electronic transmission from
(or 
created by means of computer processing of communications received by
means 
of electronic transmission from), a subscriber or customer of such
service;
(B) solely for the purpose of providing storage or computer processing 
services to such subscriber or customer, if the provider is not authorized

to access the contents of any such communications for purposes of
providing 
any services other than storage or computer processing; and
(3) a provider of remote computing service or electronic communication 
service to the public shall not knowingly divulge a record or other 
information pertaining to a subscriber to or customer of such service (not

including the contents of communications covered by paragraph (1) or (2))
to 
any governmental entity.
(b) Exceptions for disclosure of communications.- A provider described in 
subsection (a) may divulge the contents of a communication-
(1) to an addressee or intended recipient of such communication or an
agent 
of such addressee or intended recipient;
(2) as otherwise authorized in section 2517, 2511 (2)(a), or 2703 of this 
title;
(3) with the lawful consent of the originator or an addressee or intended 
recipient of such communication, or the subscriber in the case of remote 
computing service;
(4) to a person employed or authorized or whose facilities are used to 
forward such communication to its destination;
(5) as may be necessarily incident to the rendition of the service or to
the 
protection of the rights or property of the provider of that service;
(6) to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, in
connection 
with a re****t submitted thereto under section 227 of the Victims of Child 
Abuse Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 13032);
(7) to a law enforcement agency-
(A) if the contents-
(i) were inadvertently obtained by the service provider; and
(ii) appear to pertain to the commission of a crime; or
[(B) Repealed. Pub. L. 108-21, title V, § 508(b)(1)(A), Apr. 30, 2003, 117

Stat. 684]
(8) to a Federal, State, or local governmental entity, if the provider, in

good faith, believes that an emergency involving danger of death or
serious 
physical injury to any person requires disclosure without delay of 
communications relating to the emergency.
(c) Exceptions for Disclosure of Customer Records.- A provider described
in 
subsection (a) may divulge a record or other information pertaining to a 
subscriber to or customer of such service (not including the contents of 
communications covered by subsection (a)(1) or (a)(2))-
(1) as otherwise authorized in section 2703;
(2) with the lawful consent of the customer or subscriber;
(3) as may be necessarily incident to the rendition of the service or to
the 
protection of the rights or property of the provider of that service;
(4) to a governmental entity, if the provider reasonably believes that an 
emergency involving immediate danger of death or serious physical injury
to 
any person justifies disclosure of the information;
(5) to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, in
connection 
with a re****t submitted thereto under section 227 of the Victims of Child 
Abuse Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 13032); or
(6) to any person other than a governmental entity.



 U.S. Code : Title 18 : Section 2703   Required disclosure of customer 
communications or records


       Contents of Wire or Electronic Communications in Electronic
    Storage. - A governmental entity may require the disclosure by a
    provider of electronic communication service of the contents of a
    wire or electronic communication, that is in electronic storage in
    an electronic communications system for one hundred and eighty days
    or less, only pursuant to a warrant issued using the procedures
    described in the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure by a court
    with jurisdiction over the offense under investigation or
    equivalent State warrant.  A governmental entity may require the
    disclosure by a provider of electronic communications services of
    the contents of a wire or electronic communication that has been in
    electronic storage in an electronic communications system for more
    than one hundred and eighty days by the means available under
    subsection (b) of this section.
      (b) Contents of Wire or Electronic Communications in a Remote
    Computing Service. - (1) A governmental entity may require a
    provider of remote computing service to disclose the contents of
    any wire or electronic communication to which this paragraph is
    made applicable by paragraph (2) of this subsection -
         without required notice to the subscriber or customer, if
      the governmental entity obtains a warrant issued using the
      procedures described in the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure
      by a court with jurisdiction over the offense under investigation
      or equivalent State warrant; or
        (B) with prior notice from the governmental entity to the
      subscriber or customer if the governmental entity -
          (i) uses an administrative subpoena authorized by a Federal
        or State statute or a Federal or State grand jury or trial
        subpoena; or
          (ii) obtains a court order for such disclosure under
        subsection (d) of this section;
      except that delayed notice may be given pursuant to section 2705
      of this title.
      (2) Paragraph (1) is applicable with respect to any wire or
    electronic communication that is held or maintained on that service
    -
         on behalf of, and received by means of electronic
      transmission from (or created by means of computer processing of
      communications received by means of electronic transmission
      from), a subscriber or customer of such remote computing service;
      and
        (B) solely for the purpose of providing storage or computer
      processing services to such subscriber or customer, if the
      provider is not authorized to access the contents of any such
      communications for purposes of providing any services other than
      storage or computer processing.
      (c) Records Concerning Electronic Communication Service or Remote
    Computing Service. - (1) A governmental entity may require a
    provider of electronic communication service or remote computing
    service to disclose a record or other information pertaining to a
    subscriber to or customer of such service (not including the
    contents of communications) only when the governmental entity -
         obtains a warrant issued using the procedures described in
      the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure by a court with
      jurisdiction over the offense under investigation or equivalent
      State warrant;
        (B) obtains a court order for such disclosure under subsection
      (d) of this section;
        (C) has the consent of the subscriber or customer to such
      disclosure; or (FOOTNOTE 1)
       (FOOTNOTE 1) So in original.  The word ''or'' probably should
    not appear.
        (D) submits a formal written request relevant to a law
      enforcement investigation concerning telemarketing fraud for the
      name, address, and place of business of a subscriber or customer
      of such provider, which subscriber or customer is engaged in
      telemarketing (as such term is defined in section 2325 of this
      title); or
        (E) seeks information under paragraph (2).
      (2) A provider of electronic communication service or remote
    computing service shall disclose to a governmental entity the -
        (A) name;
        (B) address;
        (C) local and long distance telephone connection records, or
      records of session times and durations;
        (D) length of service (including start date) and types of
      service utilized;
        (E) telephone or instrument number or other subscriber number
      or identity, including any tem****arily assigned network address;
      and
        (F) means and source of payment for such service (including any
      credit card or bank account number),
    of a subscriber to or customer of such service when the
    governmental entity uses an administrative subpoena authorized by a
    Federal or State statute or a Federal or State grand jury or trial
    subpoena or any means available under paragraph (1).
      (3) A governmental entity receiving records or information under
    this subsection is not required to provide notice to a subscriber
    or customer.
      (d) Requirements for Court Order. - A court order for disclosure
    under subsection (b) or (c) may be issued by any court that is a
    court of competent jurisdiction and shall issue only if the
    governmental entity offers specific and articulable facts showing
    that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the contents of a
    wire or electronic communication, or the records or other
    information sought, are relevant and material to an ongoing
    criminal investigation.  In the case of a State governmental
    authority, such a court order shall not issue if prohibited by the
    law of such State. A court issuing an order pursuant to this
    section, on a motion made promptly by the service provider, may
    quash or modify such order, if the information or records requested
    are unusually voluminous in nature or compliance with such order
    otherwise would cause an undue burden on such provider.
      (e) No Cause of Action Against a Provider Disclosing Information
    Under This Chapter. - No cause of action shall lie in any court
    against any provider of wire or electronic communication service,
    its officers, employees, agents, or other specified persons for
    providing information, facilities, or assistance in accordance with
    the terms of a court order, warrant, subpoena, statutory
    authorization, or certification under this chapter.
      (f) Requirement To Preserve Evidence. -
        (1) In general. - A provider of wire or electronic
      communication services or a remote computing service, upon the
      request of a governmental entity, shall take all necessary steps
      to preserve records and other evidence in its possession pending
      the issuance of a court order or other process.
        (2) Period of retention. - Records referred to in paragraph (1)
      shall be retained for a period of 90 days, which shall be
      extended for an additional 90-day period upon a renewed request
      by the governmental entity.
      (g) Presence of Officer Not Required. - Notwithstanding section
    3105 of this title, the presence of an officer shall not be
    required for service or execution of a search warrant issued in
    accordance with this chapter requiring disclosure by a provider of
    electronic communications service or remote computing service of
    the contents of communications or records or other information
    pertaining to a subscriber to or customer of such service.


http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&sec=2703


-- 
George W. Bush has made the terrorists stronger, their influence wider, 
their numbers larger, and their motivation to attack the U.S. and other 
western interests greater.  He has repeatedly abused his authority and 
violated his Oath of Office by turning his back on the United States 
Constitution; thereby surrendering to the terrorists by underming American

freedoms,values, and the very foundations of our system of government. 
Sup****ting Bush is treason.

***************
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? 
Have 
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
 




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Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-12 21:47:26 
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ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-13 07:06:39 
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ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-15 19:48:12 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-15 20:41:59 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Joseph Welch"   2006-05-15 19:21:55 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-15 22:28:51 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Joseph Welch"   2006-05-15 21:48:51 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-16 20:16:32 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Clave" <Cla  2006-05-17 01:05:58 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Joseph Welch"   2006-05-15 19:24:16 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-13 15:37:59 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-14 08:53:35 
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retrogrouch@[EMAIL PROTEC  2006-05-14 09:35:44 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-14 15:04:40 
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ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-15 20:32:03 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Joseph Welch"   2006-05-15 19:17:09 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-14 14:19:46 
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ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-15 19:55:33 
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ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-15 20:48:56 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Joseph Welch"   2006-05-15 19:20:51 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-15 22:50:03 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
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ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-17 17:01:49 
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ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-17 22:31:05 
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ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-17 23:56:28 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Joseph Welch"   2006-05-17 22:32:20 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
Ben <ben@[EMAIL PROTEC  2006-07-10 17:39:33 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ef_hutterite <efhutter  2006-07-10 13:12:14 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Joseph Welch"   2006-05-17 22:30:07 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Joseph Welch"   2006-05-15 19:18:54 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-15 22:56:49 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Clave" <Cla  2006-05-15 20:26:48 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
"Joseph Welch"   2006-05-15 21:47:27 
Re: Republican Country Would Continue Decline Of American Streng
ray <xxxrayted@[EMAIL   2006-05-16 20:42:29 

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