On Apr 21, 3:08=A0pm, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 21, 2:47=A0pm, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 21, 3:30 pm, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Apr 21, 5:44 am, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Apr 21, 1:30 pm, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On Apr 21, 2:00 am, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > You should read the stuff by Stalin if you want a real kick...
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> > > > > David
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> > > > Equating stalinism with US imperialism was never a marxist policy
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> > > > understood by Trotsky whose marxism you allege to sup****t.
> > > > Hence sup****ting and promoting cold warriors like Blunden does on
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> > > > site including the Bomb Belgrade neo-con crusader Zisek has as
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> > > > do with marxism as I have with
aliens.http://www.marxists.org/refere=
nce/subject/philosophy/
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> > > > What is occurring is in reality an attempt to marry the classics
of
> > > > marxism with current gangsters, namely the Texan oil crowd and the
> > > > Wall Street financiers...
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> > > > This after all is what MIA has become, not what it was originally
> > > > about. Like most things it degenerates once it has no
principles...
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> > > There is ZERO difference between the MIA of 1997 and now. Zero. If
> > > Zisek has something to do as a non-Marxist ON Marxism then he goes
up
> > > on the MIA. It's why we have Adam Smith, Agust Blanqi, Max Eastmen,
> > > etc on the MIA, and always have had them on the MIA.
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> > > As to "Texas Oil" crowd...if this is the case you are a charter
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> > > of the Nazi party and murderer. If you continue to draw *totally*
> > > unsubstantiated "links", something no Marxist ever did to their
> > > politcial opponents, you are a Nazi pig, after all, you do hold the
> > > same position on immigration as Nazis. So, therefore, using your own
> > > method, you are a Nazi.
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> > > If you want to stop drawing foolish links as you do and engage in a
> > > real debate over policy, that could be done. The MIA of which I am a
> > > volunteer, doen't promote *anyone* except perhaps the people whose
> > > photos are on the main page and therefore symbolically draw's
peoples
> > > attention to them (as they are linked to their own archive).
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> > > David
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> > The bottom line will always remain I critiqued MIA for its policy of
> > putting clowns in charge of sites like the Lenin one.
> > I was then told to go look up the biographies. I did. What did I find
> > the main archiver of Lenin (Bagsen) states openly he is an anti-
> > bolshevik which begs the question why was he interested in the project
> > at all.
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> Did you look at the dates of his work on the Lenin Archive and when he
> stated he didn't sup****t the Bolsheviks? Remember I said you had a
> real issue with viewing everything statically...it's like you were
> arguing Trotsky was anti-party because he opposed the Bolsheviks in
> 1903 or Lenin went after him in 1914. Things change. At the time Brian
> and I undertook the project (and Brian was never "in charge", we ran,
> which meant worked on, the LIA together) the goal was to transribe
> Lenin's writings. He and together did a small ****tion of that. His
> "anti-Bolshevism" didn't reat it's head only toward the end of his
> participation in this part of the MIA, and in large part, in fact
> *because of* his reading of Lenin's writings that he grew to
> politically oppose Leninism. Unfortunate, but true. =A0The main point is
> that Brian did a *great job* working with me on the LIA. Others not so
> much. We've had several volunteers as admins and we have a new one who
> is young, indendent and technically proficient and above all: willing
> to do the work.
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> > From past experience this may have to do with
> > a) having access codes in order to pass on information for those who
> > look up the site
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> > b) choose what will show Lenin in a bad light like the fabricated ****
> > Robert Service has 'found' showing Lenin to be a mass murderer
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> V, you confuse transcribing texts with somehow acting like a Leninist
> or purvayor of Lenin's ideas. It is not and there is no requirement
> that someone agree with everything they transcribe. Plus...how would
> anyone "show Lenin in a bad light" by working on transcribing his
> writings.
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> > c) to push editorial policy in line with rotten bourgeois academia
> > which is on a renewed path against marxism by characters promoted on
> > your site...
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> You'd have to give an expambe beyond one obiturary. You have no idea
> what Brian "pushed" or not, period, so you can't really say very much,
> as hard as you try.
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> > Now the coincidence between me looking up the biography and being
> > taken down in between is indeed amazing. Its a feature of operators
> > who cover their tracks. Nothing new in that. The only problem is that
> > in the day of the internet it is tracked and logged. Neo-stalinism has
> > a problem surviving in such an environment.
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> Go to one of the mirror sites, it may still be up there. They don't
> all update once a day. No one else could give a damn about what you
> think on the MIA V, honestly, so clearly no one cares. Brian's
> resignation was about 6 weeks ago, people in charge of this section of
> the MIA delt with it. It's still up on the one or two mirrors:
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> http://marxists.anu.edu.au/admin/volunteers/biographies/bbasgen.htm
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> Here, so no one is hiding anything. And why would we? It's irrelevant.
> If you agree with the Charter and bylaws, you can join the MIA. We
> have Stalinists, Trotskyists, non-Marxists, anarchists, social-
> democrats, whatever on the MIA. We don't care, you only have to do
> actual work.
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I should add that because of Brian's political evolution and his slow
drift away from Marxism, we no longer have him as a member of the MIA.
This means we lost one of the hardest working, most loyal MIAers ever.
We will miss him a lot. And, I wish we had a hundred of his type
working on the MIA, it would be a thousand times better and bigger.
Brian and I butted heads more than any other two volunteers. He
opposed our catagorization process (like V, SRD and for the same
reasons) but we did work together overall and we both defended the MIA
uncoditionally against those that would attack us (Pathfinder,
Stalinists, PRC, etc).
David
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