On Apr 22, 11:52 pm, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 22, 3:36 pm, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 22, 11:29 pm, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 22, 2:55 pm, Vngelis <meberr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Apr 22, 8:35 pm, nada <dwalters...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > Want to discuss Chinese cops as part of the occupation of
> > > > > Haiti...doing the bidding the US? Your turn...you just love
defending
> > > > > capitalism and cops don't you?
>
> > > > > David
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> > > > The class nature of a state isn't determined by what they do in
the
> > > > UN.
> > > > Russia was in Austria until 1955 and defended private property
there.
> > > > Stick to what you do best. Defending US imperialism in decline.
> > > > vngelis
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> > > I actually agree with you on the issue of the cops. But it dosn't
mean
> > > the Chinese gov't are not running dogs for US imperialism in this
> > > instance. I should feel somehow different when Haitians KILL these
> > > occupiers vs that of, say, the Brazilians or other puppets? do you
> > > even take a position to defend Haiti against occupation?
>
> > > You rather ridiculous puff-balls of Stalinist slander about
'defending
> > > US imperialism' only get nods from Maoists and their ilk. You need
to
> > > discuss *politics* and not make up positions to make yourself look
> > > like you might be on the right side of the class line.
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> > > Do you stand for the withdrawal of US impeiralism AND their lackeys
> > > from Haiti: Yes or No?
>
> > > David
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> > > David
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> > The question you now ask has nothing to do with what was being argued
> > previously.
> > I dont sup****t the presence of Chinese troops in US occupations
> > anywhere, bar Mitrovica.
> > There are no maoists on here so who are you referring to?
> > China has defended the USA on North Korean talks as well which I
> > consider to be reactionary as well.
> > vngelis
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> My point about this as China continues unabatted into crony
> capitalism, the capitalist ideas of 'stability' 'free trade'
> 'investment' will continue to bring the interests of counter-
> revolution on their part and the US part closer and closer. This is
> what is happening despite larger strategic differences. but at least
> you agree the Chinese are "reactionary".
>
> David
You seem to be going backwards and forwards.
What China does internally isn't identical to what China does
externally.
Stalin wasn't privatising Russia when he was signing the Stalin-Hitler
pact...
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