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Re: On the Settler Question

by Vngelis <meberry68@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 03:01 PM

Lets start from back to front. Sections of the working class of course
have to fight each other.
What are strikes, pickets etc? I assume one section of workers giving
flowers to another?
In the post-modernist world you lot promote on MIA with imperialist
academics like Rorty and Zisek of course the class struggle has been
dead decades ago, in the meantime in the real world of living social
forces workers have to battle it out to survive. In your daydream
world not only do settlers not exist but they have an a priori right
to existence.

You say the Vietnamese boat people weren't settlers. By becoming
quislings to the US occupation they became defacto foreigners to their
own people, ethnic traitors who would be penalised once the revolution
was victorious. The French were in Algeria for how many generations?
Was it 1 only? I cant see how the French aren't settlers because they
considered that Algeria was French whilst the Boers aren't settlers or
the whites in Zim? You have the logic of a rat always twisting and
turning to justify any stupidty. None of them are African. Everybody
knows what African is like everybody knows what Chinese is or Indian.

SRD argues I accept the 'nationalist programme' of expulsion of
settler populations. My point was that forces outside the control of
both the settlers (whom Walters tries to pretend perpetually dont
exist) and the indigenous populations are working for a clash and a
settling of accounts. Once they are booted out when they do return
like in this article
http://tinyurl.com/5koz76
they are much reduced and their role is secondary to what it once was.

Whether the slogan One Settler One Bullet (I mean hey why do they use
the word settler when they have been there more than  1 generation ie
33 years?) is being implemented via crime is an irrelevance to the
debate. It is being implemented nevertheless and on accounts I have
read hundreds of thousands of white youth have left S Africa.
Indeed the area around Cape Town asked for what Sucre is asking in
Bolivia to be made independent from the central government.
 




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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-04-28 07:16:43 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-04-28 07:17:38 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-04-28 07:33:09 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-04-28 12:01:45 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-04-28 12:25:06 
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"Mr. Green Jeans&quo  2008-04-28 15:41:56 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-04-28 15:48:39 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-04-28 15:53:40 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-04-28 18:20:04 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-04-29 10:25:54 
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stephen <srdiamond@[EM  2008-04-29 10:42:06 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-04-29 12:30:14 
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"Mr. Green Jeans&quo  2008-04-29 14:25:01 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-04-29 15:01:34 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-04-29 15:45:54 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-01 01:41:50 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:42:00 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-06 12:22:36 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-06 15:31:35 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-07 19:46:09 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-06 16:19:10 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-07 01:47:22 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-07 05:24:39 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-07 13:26:23 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-08 00:42:12 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-07 15:22:06 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-07 16:01:31 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-07 16:10:40 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-08 15:34:12 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-07 16:19:50 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-07 16:27:22 
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Daniele Futtorovic <da  2008-05-08 14:41:21 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-07 23:37:07 
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dusty <trackdusty@[EMA  2008-05-07 18:06:08 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-07 18:37:23 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-07 19:18:57 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-07 19:39:39 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-08 03:12:02 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 09:27:45 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 09:31:40 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 09:33:40 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-08 19:05:41 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-08 13:16:45 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-09 02:43:57 
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dave.walters@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-09 10:16:40 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-10 00:44:14 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-09 22:12:13 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-10 08:26:14 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-10 17:47:49 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-10 18:17:00 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-10 18:21:00 
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"Stephen R. Diamond&  2008-05-11 17:27:45 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-11 17:26:26 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-12 01:06:27 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-12 01:15:21 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-12 03:15:16 
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Vngelis <meberry68@[EM  2008-05-14 03:06:41 
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nada <dwaltersMIA@[EMA  2008-05-14 08:42:39 

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